This is crazy. The (so- called) House of Liberty , where U.S ( corrupt) politicians create policies that effect the world WAS BUILT BY BLACK PEOPLE and most (98%) are not aware of this historical fact.
The only thing this ridiculous accomplishment not being acknowledge (erased) is the FACT that THOSE (Blacks) wasn't paid a sh*t. Where is the money that they earned. (Reparations) THEY haven't recieve a thank you (or apology) to this day.
Summary of history of US Capital. If intrested in (correct) American history read link below.)
The 1st stage of the Capital's construction would run from 1793 to 1802.
The U.S. gov sent out a request for 100 Black slaves. The government agreed to pay THEIR ( slave) master's 5 dollars per month per slave. THEY were not only forced to labor on the Capital building, but were used to clear a broad swaft of forest between the sites for the two buildings ( Capital and White House).
The 3rd phase of the Capital reconstruction ( the 2nd occured after 1812) took place during the Civil War.
On top of the Capital stands the Statue of Freedom in the figure of a Native American female warrior ( slaves puuting up a statue that is suppose to represent freedom!?). Black slaves were given the responsibility of casting Statue of Freedom and loading its 5 sections, each weighing more than a TON.
The task of assembling Freedom took 31 days. The statue was then disassembled, hosted and reassembled by (Black) slaves on the thalos a pedistal on the dome surmounted by a globe.
"As a follow-up to The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks, Randall Robinson makes the compelling case that at the same time that African Americans push for reparations, they must simultaneously fight another equally important battle against the growing prison industrial system that is as ominous a development for black and brown Americans as the slave trade was for the people of Africa between the seventeenth and nineteenth centuries. Tragically, African Americans have been and continue to be overwhelmingly thrown into new prisons-for-profit, increasingly built and run by corporations. Robinson argues that blacks owe it to each other to expose and dismantle this phenomenon because the repercussions, not only to those actually imprisoned, but for the entire black community, are frighteningly multidimensional and intergenerational.
The Reckoning grew out of Robinson’s work with gang members, ex-convicts, and others profoundly scarred by environments of extreme poverty. It pays homage to the residents of these neighborhoods waging heroic struggles to save their communities, and holds up for public examination America’s elected officials joining with corporate America to make private-sector prisons a twenty-first-century growth industry."
Malcolm......do white people not live in poverty? Many white people live in poverty. What excuse do they get to use?
Many African-Americans are richer than I could ever imagine.
"Everything about Randall Robinson's 2001 bestseller The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks is wrong. Wrongest of all is his overwhelming belief that most black Americans are broken. Broken in a way that only white people can fix.
For 250 pages, in spurts of purple prose, Robinson goes on and on about the "vicious psychological wake of slavery," the "crushing legacy of slavery-based social disabilities," the "debilitating psychic pain" that has left African Americans "so badly damaged," the "disabling injury" responsible for our "every devastating failure."
Robinson is so caught up in hyping black people's victim status, he seems unaware of the repercussions of such rhetoric. If we black folks are so damaged, so disabled, so debilitated, so devastated, then why should any white employer want to hire us? Clearly we can't be expected to perform as well as whites on the job, given this "crushing legacy" that has crippled us spiritually and emotionally. Why shouldn't white homeowners worry when some of these psychological basket cases move into their neighborhood? Why should white parents want their children to attend schools alongside such human trainwrecks?
The case for reparations, as laid out by Robinson, relies upon overstating the lingering damage of slavery. But the more he overstates it, the more he validates every white racist impulse to write off black people as inadequate and fundamentally different from whites. The Debt conveniently ignores the millions of black Americans who've risen into the middle class and beyond.
According to 2004 U.S. Census data, nearly 4 million black Americans over the age of 25 hold either a bachelor's degree or (like Robinson) an advanced degree. That's 18 percent of those who classify themselves as black or partially black, compared with 28 percent of all Americans and 31 percent of non-Hispanic whites. This doesn't quite fit Randall Robinson's tragic narrative of a people crippled by "the mind-breaking psychological price of slavery's unbearable weight." Sounds to me more like a triumph of the spirit... a story in progress of African-American uplift.
The Debt doesn't just sell black people short, it sells white people short. To Robinson, American society is "deeply, stubbornly, poisonously racist." After two and a half centuries of slavery, he writes, black people were told to fend for themselves, in the face of continuing hatred and discrimination. Nowhere in his 250 pages does Randall Robinson mention these two words: "white philanthropy." Or, as it used to be known, "Northern philanthropy."
The fact is, soon after Emancipation, the U.S. government and Protestant activists in the North undertook the mission of educating the former slaves. What became of these white people's good will, hard work and money? Howard University, founded in 1867 by the federal government, is today perhaps the most esteemed historically black institution of higher learning in the world. Morehouse College, created by the American Baptist Home Mission Society in 1867, is today called "the Harvard of black colleges." Among other schools established by this body of Northern white Baptists was Virginia Union University, from which Randall Robinson received his bachelor's degree.
Hampton University, Fisk University and other black schools were founded by white Congregationalists. Meharry Medical College, Cookman Institute (now part of Bethune-Cookman College), New Orleans University (now part of Dillard University) and others were founded by white Methodists. Most historically black colleges in America today were created by white people.
And through the early decades of the 1900s, wealthy white businessmen and philanthropists such as Andrew Carnegie, John D. Rockefeller, Julius Rosenwald and Caroline Phelps Stokes donated millions of dollars to the cause of black education. Carnegie at one point cut a $600,000 check to Booker T. Washington's Tuskegee Institute. Spelman College is named after Rockefeller's wife, Laura Spelman Rockefeller.
Randall Robinson acknowledges none of this in his book, even as he writes that, "in any effort to balance America's racial scales, education... must be assigned the very highest priority." Robinson owes his undergraduate education to the beneficence of Northern whites, as does his son who went to Howard and his daughter who went to Spelman. But all he wants to talk about is how white folks owe a massive unpaid debt.
I'd love to discuss the issue of reparations with Randall Robinson one day. That'll be hard to do because Robinson, in his disgust with racist America, has moved to the island of St. Kitts. He even wrote a book about it, called Quitting America. I don't think I'll be reading that one."
Of course thats just my opinion....I could be wrong. (Dennis Miller)
"You might be the toughest little whacker. . .but in my world, you're about as worrisome as a cloudy day." (Dutch Dooley)
HECK! said this in post #2 : I think the people in question haven't gotten a thank you is because they're dead.
Malcom, do you have ties to any of these people? Family ties?
-HECK!
Your question belongs on Reparations thread.
Purpose of this thread is bring AWAREness of an important fact in Amercan History and have it acknowledge. There is nothing to acknowledge THERE work. Not in books; no statue, paintings, movies, memorial, calenders... there is nothing that remind us of this important fact in history.
Most people did not know the U.S. Capital / White House was created by Black slaves.This FACT should be in history books so this riduculous accomplishment can be acknowledged.
"As a follow-up to The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks, Randall Robinson makes the compelling case that at the same time that African Americans push for reparations, they must simultaneously fight another equally important battle against the growing prison industrial system that is as ominous a development for black and brown Americans as the slave trade was for the people of Africa between the seventeenth and nineteenth centuries. Tragically, African Americans have been and continue to be overwhelmingly thrown into new prisons-for-profit, increasingly built and run by corporations. Robinson argues that blacks owe it to each other to expose and dismantle this phenomenon because the repercussions, not only to those actually imprisoned, but for the entire black community, are frighteningly multidimensional and intergenerational.
The Reckoning grew out of Robinson’s work with gang members, ex-convicts, and others profoundly scarred by environments of extreme poverty. It pays homage to the residents of these neighborhoods waging heroic struggles to save their communities, and holds up for public examination America’s elected officials joining with corporate America to make private-sector prisons a twenty-first-century growth industry."
Malcolm......do white people not live in poverty? [B]Many white people live in poverty. What excuse do they get to use?
Many African-Americans are richer than I could ever imagine.
Cut me a break.
What about topic( Blacks Created the U.S. Capital) of this thread?
Your responce is for another subject and diferrent book that will throw off topic. Stay on topic so we can discuss topic.
(yes or no ) questions:
Were you aware of this hisorical fact?
2) Do you acknowledge this (hidden) achievement? S
Does this important FACT belong in history boolks? Should be taught in school?
4) How US gov should give restitution? (apology, memorial, financial..)
What should happen with the money that was never given for for the (free) labor?
5) Will you now ell your friends and family of this FACT ? ( and your conressman)
More info to get better perspective on the buiding of the U.S. Capital. Information Mystic just focuses on the messenger it shows her confusion of this topic.
Randall Robinson:
I went down a floor to a gift kiosk run by the Capital Historical Society to look for books about the (U.S.) Capital's construction. I found two: In the Greatest Solemn Dignity and Uncle Sam's Architect: Builders of the Capital.Neither book mentioned anything about the use of (Black) slave labor.
This was the house of Liberty, and it had been built by (Black) slaves. Their backs had ached under its massive stones. Their lungs had clogged... Their bodies had wilted... They had been PAID ONLY IN THE COIN OF PAIN.
malcolm xx said this in post #5 :
What about topic( Blacks Created the U.S. Capital) of this thread?
Your responce is for another subject and diferrent book that will throw off topic. Stay on topic so we can discuss topic.
(yes or no ) questions:
Were you aware of this hisorical fact?
2) Do you acknowledge this (hidden) achievement? S
Does this important FACT belong in history boolks? Should be taught in school?
4) How US gov should give restitution? (apology, memorial, financial..)
What should happen with the money that was never given for for the (free) labor?
5) Will you now ell your friends and family of this FACT ? ( and your conressman)
Malcolm...
What I posted WAS on topic!
You are the one that linked us to Randall Robinson.
First....like HECK said...who are they supposed to thank? You?
Really Malcolm...if you are gong to say something....know the real facts. You said
quote:
They had been PAID ONLY IN THE COIN OF PAIN.
Is that not a lie?????????????????
quote:
and it had been built by (Black) slaves
Is this not also a lie???????????????
"Typically, the sawyers were black, both free and enslaved. In August 1795, for example, a team of eight blacks was paid for pit sawyering. One of the men, described as "Negro Simon," was probably a free black and was paid seven shillings and six pence ($1) a day, the same as a white journeyman would have received. Those workers listed simply as "Jerry," "Jess," "Charles," "Len," "Dick," "Bill" and "Jim" were undoubtedly slaves and received 1 shilling per day--probably an incentive pay that they, and not their masters, were able to retain. They were paid for 30 days--meaning that they worked seven days a week straight through the month of August. (August was the high construction month and frequently all workmen would work seven days a week."
Purpose of this thread is bring AWAREness of an important fact in Amercan History and have it acknowledge. There is nothing to acknowledge THERE work. Not in books; no statue, paintings, movies, memorial, calenders... there is nothing that remind us of this important fact in history.
Most people did not know the U.S. Capital / White House was created by Black slaves.This FACT should be in history books so this riduculous accomplishment can be acknowledged.
:
1.) Did you know Blacks built the Capital?
2) Do you acknowldge this fact?
Malcom, for starts, both free and enslaved African-Americans were involved in the construction of the White House. So were European immigrants.
You're acting like the White House was only built by black slaves, which is completely and totally incorrect.
Time you get your facts strait.
And when do laborers of any nationality get recognition for constructing anything. I couldn't tell you what color or creed of people who built the Hoover Dam, Statue Of Liberty, or Empire State Building. I respect their efforts and their hard work, aside from that, what the hell do you want? You seriously think there needs to be a memorial because a portion of people working on the White House were African-American slaves?
You are the one that linked us to Randall Robinson.
First....like HECK said...who are they supposed to thank? You?
Really Malcolm...if you are gong to say something....know the real facts. You said Is that not a lie????????????????? Is this not also a lie???????????????
Your latest response( post #7) is on topic. Your initial (post #2) mentins another book " day of reckoning" , gives a (bias) review of the book and gives info on Arttorney Randall Robinson.
2) I did give link to Randall Robinson but the link was on specific info on topic ( Blacks building Capital).
3) I have never ask for apology from you , heck! or anyone. The How( we know why) did you create this propaganda?
"Slaves Creating Capital" was only posted to make AWARE of history .
02-26-2008 04:09 AM
