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South Africa: Whites Own 90% Land post #1  quote:



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In 2007, MORE THAN 90% OF THE LAND IS OWNED BY THE white minority IN SOUTH AFRICA.

South Africa's so-called "softly-softly" approach of willing buyer, willing -seller model, is now collapsing as landless Blacks grow impatent about this slow process.

South African's are now calling for a "Zimbabwe Solution" for country's land reform plan.

South Africa's skewed land ownership structure is much more serious than Zimbabwe's case.

The extent to which indigenous people were dispossessed of their land by whites in South Africa under colonial rule and apartheid HAS NO PARRALLELS ON THE ENTIRE AFRICAN CONTINENT.

Ironically so-called mainstream Western meadia are not covering story.

www.news.newamericamedia.org/news/v...6bc70199435e...

-or google South Africa: Whites Own 90% Land ( 1st link given)


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Well whats the ANC doing about it? after all they are the party that is meant to be getting equality for all South Africans. As for the Zimbabwe solution let's be honest that was a spectacular failure that has led in part to Zimbabwe going down the toilet the poor blacks in Soth Africa cannot afford to be made poorer.

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I'm sorry Malcolm but your link doesn't seem to be working for me.

Out of interest, would these Whites be perhaps decendants of the Beors and other decendants of European settlers and african natives from 100's of years ago?



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I'm sorry Malcolm but your link doesn't seem to be working for me.

Out of interest, would these Whites be perhaps decendants of the Beors and other decendants of European settlers and african natives from 100's of years ago?


I thought would happen. I type the adress of link given. Is there something else needed.?





* "google" South Africa: Whites Own 90% Land (heading of article)

* the 1st link provided is where you will find artticle

* see if you ( or anyone) can post the link


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Well whats the ANC doing about it? after all they are the party that is meant to be getting equality for all South Africans. As for the Zimbabwe solution let's be honest that was a spectacular failure that has led in part to Zimbabwe going down the toilet the poor blacks in Soth Africa cannot afford to be made poorer.



Before we answer your ANC question? We want to know WHO took there land? and WHY was it taken?

Then we can get to WHO is doing something about it.


Again. You speak of Zimbabwe as if you are citizen. Where do you get your info on Zimbabwe? BBC? army friends? "moderate" citizen of Zimbabwe?


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Before we answer your ANC question? We want to know WHO took there land? and WHY was it taken?

We know it was Europeans.

Then we can get to WHO is doing something about it.

Well apparently nobody. You forget Malcolm the ANC is the poor mans party they should be doing something but they won't and cant. if you are saying that the South African government cannot handle this problem does that not confrim everything I have said about African countries in other threads?


Again. You speak of Zimbabwe as if you are citizen. Where do you get your info on Zimbabwe? BBC? army friends? "moderate" citizen of Zimbabwe?


Try any major news organisation Malcolm you cannot possibly be saying that the siutation in Zimbabwe is actually good. Read these about Zimbabwe:

http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/ind...CFQ9OMAodRxdxOQ

http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/


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Actually there is a way out of this mess that allows poor blacks to make a lot of money and lets the whites keep the land or you can do it the other way around.

Hers the situation the descendets of the blacks wrongly lost thier land and as the DLA and the LCC cannot or won't do anything maybe this option is a suitable one. anyway don't disregard it out of hand just think about it for a minute.

Simply why don't the ANC invoke a state asset transfer? towards the end of apartheid the then government built many businesses to cure the economic woes at the time. They are now fairly valuable for example the electricty board is worth an estimated $18 billion the transport network $11.5 billion. Now despite the value these businesses are poorly managed and are pretty much economic dinosaurs .
So here's what you do you either sell them on and give the money as compensation to the blacks or the whites or you do what was done in Slovakia and the Czech Rep and Estonia you give these businesses to the people. They run it take a wage, pay the taxes problem solved and with a little business education these could be very financially sound and would give the group affected a long term future as opposed to short term compensation.
So far this is not exactly been supported by the ANC the former leader was opposed to this and the new one is equally clueless about what to do with the situation. However the South African free market foundation based in Johanessberg are fully in support of this move this is because of a survey taken in 2005. The survey claims that 65% of South Africans don't want to work on the land they want to work in the cities and work in manufacturing or industrial work so the solution may be viable. Also get this the ANC owns 60 million acres of land ( 8 Belgiums) why not give this land away to the blacks?


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Try any major news organisation Malcolm you cannot possibly be saying that the siutation in Zimbabwe is actually good. Read these about Zimbabwe:

http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/ind...CFQ9OMAodRxdxOQ

http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/

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Have you read article? Can you locate link so everyone can read?


Topic of post is on South Africa. Start an Zimbabwe post to debate your propaganda.


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Of course I have read the article. I know the topic of the post is South Africa Malcolm I wrote 5 paragraphs about it 2 or 3 posts ago which by the way you have ignored.
On a more serious note have you considred a menatl health check up? I only ask because you seem to be getting foregtfull it was you that brought up Zimbabwe I am only addressing all the isuues.

Anyway have you read the links what do you think? watt more articles?


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Of course I have read the article. I know the topic of the post is South Africa Malcolm I wrote 5 paragraphs about it 2 or 3 posts ago which by the way you have ignored.
On a more serious note have you considred a menatl health check up? I only ask because you seem to be getting foregtfull it was you that brought up Zimbabwe I am only addressing all the isuues.

Anyway have you read the links what do you think? watt more articles?


Can you post link so evryone can see facts for themselves? I 'm unable to post links on Inreview lately.

South Africa considering "Zimbabwe soulution" for ARABLE land that was took from them in the past. This is only context Zimbabwe was mention.

You wrote most of "5 paragraphs" on your view of Zimbabwe to confuse point of article. And you constanly warn me to stay on topic?


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The links seem to be working for me if they don't work for you all I can suggest is that you type them into your address bar or better yet just type Zimbabwe situation into google or something like that loads of links there.

The arable land situation in Zimbawe is important because it ruined Zimbawe thats why I posted the links, it also backs up my previous claims that once the west is gone these countries usually ruin themselves.

I did not write 5 paragrapjs about Zimbawe I posted 2 links and wrote collectively about 5 sentences also you were the one that wanted to know where I got my information from so i posted a few for you. If that confuses you Malcolm it's not my fault.

Is this your usual game Malcolm have yopu realised you have can't make this arguement stick and now you try and felct attentrion away from it? because as of yet you have made no refrence to what I wrote about the ANC or a possible assest transfer.


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