Race is not a factor in fact Malcolm Dog fighting is not really a factor it the illegal gambling which Vick has done and admitted to and which is against the rules he knew that and he knew the punishment he dug his own hole.
Sierradaddy said this in post #10 : Malcolm, White Tiger, in the very post you QUOTED, said they knew little or nothing about the issue. How would they know if the punishment fit the crime, when they aren't even sure of how deep the allegations go?
BTW, the safari hunting thing, if true, should DEFINITELY be brought into light a lot more. That's very hypocritical of the Falcons to fire Vick, if the owner of the Falcons goes on African hunting safaris... Still, when the political windmill starts churning, everyone runs for cover from the piles of s**t that inevitably flies off of it.
How is your family after Hurricane Dean? I hope it wasn't as intense as Katrina.
What is it called when people working at animal shelters kill dogs? It doesn't matter if they are considered dangerous or if they are innocent puppies. Wjy doesn anyone go after them?
.Pretty words like "animal shelter, dog catcher and euthanasia arecreated to hide and give justification for them to kill animals. No human was given authorituty to decide life or death.
My point is killing a dog is killing a dog and there should not be different words to describe it.
That's like saying executing a prisoner or taking someone off of life support is the same as shooting someone in the face during a bank robbery.
Thousands of dogs are destroyed every day, this is true. Animal Shelters don't have the money or resources to house and feed every stray or unwanted pet. They are peacefully killed.
Mike Vick raised dogs to fight one another until one of the dogs died. And if the losing dog did not die he would kill the dogs in a very greusome manner. He also bet on this *illegal* operation. Mike Vick broke the law.
To compare euthenasia and Mike Vick's dogfighting is probably one of the worst arguments I've ever heard in my life. I feel idiotic even posting a response to it. This website is dummer for having that post here.
Do I think race was a factor? Yes. Do I think it was a significant factor? No.
I suspect that people in the media were quicker to judge Vic as being guilty of the crimes, but that doesn't mean he was any less guilty. And malcolm, he doesn't deserve your defense. He killed at least 8 dogs. Not because they were sick or hurt (animal shelter), not because they attacked people (animal control), but because they were no longer making him money in a dog fighting ring. I own a dog, total mutt, that we (the vet and I) suspect was involved in a fighting ring for some period of time. I know first-hand how horrific the results are of dog fighting.
"Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord."
"Judge not, let you be judged yourself."
I live my life highly accordingly to these two quotes, and pray I'm never wronged to the point of forgetting them.
WillJ said this in post #22 : Do I think race was a factor? Yes. Do I think it was a significant factor? No.
I suspect that people in the media were quicker to judge Vic as being guilty of the crimes, but that doesn't mean he was any less guilty. And malcolm, he doesn't deserve your defense. He killed at least 8 dogs. Not because they were sick or hurt (animal shelter), not because they attacked people (animal control), but because they were no longer making him money in a dog fighting ring. I own a dog, total mutt, that we (the vet and I) suspect was involved in a fighting ring for some period of time. I know first-hand how horrific the results are of dog fighting.
So the "thousands" of pitbulls animal shelters kill daily are dogs that are sick or hurt? clarify yourself.
Ok did a little reserach on pitbulls and shelters etc etc. In America, Shelters Euthanise at most 5 millions dogs a a year of the 5 million at least 2 million are very old, very sick or are not wanted due to bad press of the breed.
Of the 5 million dogs 1.25 million pit bulls are killed every year mainly due to bad press but and this is important because it ties into what Vick did 10% of pit bulls that are killed have been maimed in dog fights, injuries include missing limbs, missing eyes, and sickeningly burned apparently the most popular way to kill a severley injured dog after a fight is to take petrol and burn it alive there was a case in illinois where a group of 50 men who betted on the losing dog dragged what was left of the pit bull to the parking lot lifted up a car and dropped they tyre on it's head.
Pit bulls are the breed that dog shelters see the most and they belive that it is because the dogs were to be used in dog fights but they know the police are getting tough on this now and they don't fancy being the neighbourhoods Michale Vick.
The fact is that Shelters cannot simply keep taking in dogs it's not possible so you have to make room sadly that means putting down the older less healthy dogs it's sad but it is the fact. However before we get mad at shelters let's get mad at the irresponsible owners and people that should never have been allowed a dog because if they did not have dogs the shelters would not be making the difficult descions would they?
Still the fact remains the way vick killed these dogs is 1000000 worse than what shelters do and you can't argue with that IMO.
So the "thousands" of pitbulls animal shelters kill daily are dogs that are sick or hurt? clarify yourself.
No offense but defending Vick because he's black is just as racist as hating him because of it. Animal shelters save thousands of dogs and put down the ones that they can no longer care for. It's a very sad fact of life but they aren't doing it because they suddenly can't make money off betting on these dogs. And they certainly don't beat the dogs to train them.
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