Chat or Talk in the INReview Discussion Forum Chat or Talk in the INReview Discussion Forum
Support INReview. Please visit our sponsors and shop.
 
register chat shopping members links refer search home
INReview INReview > Hot Topics > Agree2Disagree > Was Payton Manning The Super Bowl MVP?
Search this Thread:
  Print Version | Email Page | Bookmark | Subscribe to Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread   
malcolm xx
In the Now Guru

offline
Registered: Jun 2004
Local time: 02:49 PM
Location:
Posts: 1322

Was Payton Manning The Super Bowl MVP? post #1  quote:



Am I the only person who thinks the NFL made wrong choice for the Super Bowl MVP? What about that RB for the Colts who ran for 113 yards? Peyton Manning had solid stats but his performance was average.The Colt's RB had an MVP performance and he became the Colt's offense because of Manning's lack of of perormance. Race may have been a factor. Two Black coaches in Superbowl and a Black player for MVP?

These are the questions ESPN and [other puppet sports talk shows]Did Manning deserve award? Why wasn't RB chosen? Who makes decsion for award? What is the criteria? Is politics invovled? What do the players think?


What do you think?


Old Post 02-09-2007 09:17 PM
Click here to Send malcolm xx a Private Message Find more posts by malcolm xx Add malcolm xx to your buddy list Click Here to Ignore malcolm xx REPORT this Post to a ModeratorNOMINATE this Post for Reward Points Reply w/Quote

Staff
HECK!
Bluto

offline
Registered: May 2003
Local time: 06:49 AM
Location: Delta House
Posts: 17634

post #2  quote:

I think you really don't know what you're talking about.

Do you just try to pull the race card in any instance?

Do you know anything about football? About the Colts' offense? Because if you did you wouldn't make such a bogus statement.

Peyton Manning was 25 of 38 for 247 yards and a touchdown and one interception. Most importantly, now pay attention here, Manning calls the plays from the line of scrimmage. That means he put his team in place to win. He rallied his team from a defecit and won the Super Bowl. That means he is the Most Valuable Player.

The Colts used a dual running back attack with Addai and Rhodes who combined for 190 yards rushing. If one of them had that yardage you could talk about them possibly being deserving. But you cannot and should not pull a race card.

The MVP award is given to the person who made the most significant contribution to the game. The winner is chosen by a panel of members of the media, and the fans. The media panel's ballots count for 80 percent of the votes while the fans' ballots count for 20 percent.

Also, about half the MVP's have been quarterbacks.

Of the MVP's the last ten years there have been 6 black MVP award winners.

And where were you during Super Bowl XXI? Brett Favre (a white quarterback) became the first quarterback to score 3 touchdowns and NOT be named the MVP. It went to Desmond Howard.

So, basically, ESPN and other new outlets are discussing it because Manning deserves it.

-HECK!



HECK's World: - Best blog ever - Movies - Sports - Battlestar Galactica - Heroes - The great Sandwich debate
Who is HECK? Hall Of Fame Member - Inaugural Platinum Member - The Whole F'n Show

And if you don't like it, STHU!

"Life sucks, get a f'n helmet!" --Dennis Leary
Old Post 02-09-2007 09:44 PM
Click here to Send HECK! a Private Message View HECK!'s Journal Find more posts by HECK! Add HECK! to your buddy list Send an AIM message to HECK! Reply w/Quote

malcolm xx
In the Now Guru

offline
Registered: Jun 2004
Local time: 02:49 PM
Location:
Posts: 1322

post #3  quote:

I'm not crticizing Manning but the fact is he had a terrible playoffs and had an average Super Bowl performance. Most people say that Rhodes should have been chosen MVP but the NFL is trying to make Manning the greatest QB ever. I'm sure his dad is involve someway.

The SuperBowl MVP is given to player who is most responsible for the winning team's victory for only that game. It probably can be given to a player on losing team, but I'm not sure. Whatever Manning has done or is claim of doing should't matter in choice of award.

Farve's individual success did not help his team to win but Howard was major reason his team beat the Packers.


Old Post 02-10-2007 02:06 AM
Click here to Send malcolm xx a Private Message Find more posts by malcolm xx Add malcolm xx to your buddy list Click Here to Ignore malcolm xx REPORT this Post to a ModeratorNOMINATE this Post for Reward Points Reply w/Quote

Staff
Sierradaddy
Days of Future Past...

offline
Registered: May 2003
Local time: 08:49 AM
Location: Somewhere in Time...
Posts: 3906

post #4  quote:

malcolm, HECK has a point about Manning. Peyton calls the offensive plays a lot on his own. If he called the plays that led to his teams victory, and boosted the morale of his team (they were down 7 before a minute of the game had passed; down 14 by the end of the first quarter...) to the point where they rallied to come back and win the game, then that's significant.

Now, if there's an argument to be made that the MVP should've gone to someone other than Manning, how about someone on the Colts defense? They held Chicago to only a field goal for 3 quarters after being down by 14 after the first quarter. SOMEONE on their defensive squad must've had a standout game for that to have happened...

Yeah, I didn't see the game... I was busy working........



"Logic dictates, but nobody's listening..."
Old Post 02-10-2007 03:40 AM
Click here to Send Sierradaddy a Private Message Find more posts by Sierradaddy Add Sierradaddy to your buddy list Sierradaddy's MSN ID is smoothline98@hotmail.com Reply w/Quote

Staff
Dekka00
Obama, you bama!

offline
Registered: Sep 2003
Local time: 09:49 AM
Location: Virginia
Posts: 11550

post #5  quote:

sports are stewpid.


...are you sticking 'round to see what happens?
Old Post 02-10-2007 08:53 AM
Click here to Send Dekka00 a Private Message View Dekka00's Journal Visit Dekka00's homepage! Find more posts by Dekka00 Add Dekka00 to your buddy list Reply w/Quote

Staff
HECK!
Bluto

offline
Registered: May 2003
Local time: 06:49 AM
Location: Delta House
Posts: 17634

post #6  quote:

quote:
malcolm xx said this in post #3 :
I'm not crticizing Manning but the fact is he had a terrible playoffs and had an average Super Bowl performance. Most people say that Rhodes should have been chosen MVP but the NFL is trying to make Manning the greatest QB ever. I'm sure his dad is involve someway.

The SuperBowl MVP is given to player who is most responsible for the winning team's victory for only that game. It probably can be given to a player on losing team, but I'm not sure. Whatever Manning has done or is claim of doing should't matter in choice of award.

Farve's individual success did not help his team to win but Howard was major reason his team beat the Packers.


Manning did have a below average playoff run... right up until his comeback against the Pats when the teams was down 21-3. The Super Bowl MVP is based just on that game. I don't know if the NFL is trying to make Manning anything. I tend to see it as they are congratulating and giving props to a dude who is undeniably great but has never won. They did the same thing when Elway finally won.

Dominic Rhodes did not have a better game than Manning and was only marginally better than Joseph Addai. Two-headed running attacks are quite often regarding as a combined effort. So you cannot recognize one without the other and their total effort wasn't that fantastic to begin with.

Manning is the play caller, the field general and ultimately responsible for the life and death of this team. All the plays that Rhodes and Addai had success on were from Manning's ability to read the defense and call the play. There are very, very few quarterbacks that are given that kind of power over the offense. My friends and I joke saying that we doubt Tony Dungy's headset is even plugged in.

SD had a good point about a player from the defense being singled out. I would sooner entertain a discussion about that then Rhodes being named MVP.

There has been an MVP from a losing team, but just once I believe.

And Brett Favre, despite having a stellar game, was ultimately the most integral reason the Packers won the Super Bowl. Rhodes, despite having an average day, was not the reason the Colts won. To pull a race card is kind of sad.

-HECK!



HECK's World: - Best blog ever - Movies - Sports - Battlestar Galactica - Heroes - The great Sandwich debate
Who is HECK? Hall Of Fame Member - Inaugural Platinum Member - The Whole F'n Show

And if you don't like it, STHU!

"Life sucks, get a f'n helmet!" --Dennis Leary
Old Post 02-12-2007 05:27 PM
Click here to Send HECK! a Private Message View HECK!'s Journal Find more posts by HECK! Add HECK! to your buddy list Send an AIM message to HECK! Reply w/Quote

malcolm xx
In the Now Guru

offline
Registered: Jun 2004
Local time: 02:49 PM
Location:
Posts: 1322

post #7  quote:

quote:
HECK! said this in post #6 :


Manning did have a below average playoff run... right up until his comeback against the Pats when the teams was down 21-3. The Super Bowl MVP is based just on that game. I don't know if the NFL is trying to make Manning anything. I tend to see it as they are congratulating and giving props to a dude who is undeniably great but has never won. They did the same thing when Elway finally won. Well the Super Bowl MVP is suppose to be awrded because of that game. Politics and those who worship Manning agree the award is given becuse of a playoff game.

Colts may have used a two headed running back system but the one who ran for 113 yards was the one more effective and became offense when it began to rain.

Dominic Rhodes did not have a better game than Manning and was only marginally better than Joseph Addai. Two-headed running attacks are quite often regarding as a combined effort. So you cannot recognize one without the other and their total effort wasn't that fantastic to begin with.

Manning is the play caller, the field general and ultimately responsible for the life and death of this team. All the plays that Rhodes and Addai had success on were from Manning's ability to read the defense and call the play. There are very, very few quarterbacks that are given that kind of power over the offense. My friends and I joke saying that we doubt Tony Dungy's headset is even plugged in. That is an ignorant statement and is based on no facts. Your love of Manning( and conservative media) is making you spin and create facts to make Manning's below average performace great misleads those who didn't see game.Also, to imply Dungy is uable to manage the offensive side of his teams is almost racists.

SD had a good point about a player from the defense being singled out. I would sooner entertain a discussion about that then Rhodes being named MVP.

There has been an MVP from a losing team, but just once I believe.

And Brett Favre, despite having a stellar game, was ultimately the most integral reason the Packers won the Super Bowl. Rhodes, despite having an average day, was not the reason the Colts won. To pull a race card is kind of sad.

-HECK!


Old Post 02-13-2007 11:26 PM
Click here to Send malcolm xx a Private Message Find more posts by malcolm xx Add malcolm xx to your buddy list Click Here to Ignore malcolm xx REPORT this Post to a ModeratorNOMINATE this Post for Reward Points Reply w/Quote

Staff
Sierradaddy
Days of Future Past...

offline
Registered: May 2003
Local time: 08:49 AM
Location: Somewhere in Time...
Posts: 3906

post #8  quote:

It's not racist to say that about Dungy. God.... Manning runs his own offense very well, and that is part of the credit towards the Colts success. Dungy recognizing Manning's ability in that regard, and allowing that to take place, was a brilliant move on his part. There's nothing racist about it. If any other coach was in Dungy's place and did the same thing, the same joke would be made. It's a joke. Man, you're really on a witch hunt, aren't you?

Peyton Manning was the superbowl MVP. I'm quite fine with that. The moment I heard that the Colts came back from being down 14 after the first quarter, I knew Manning was most likely to receive the MVP. When his stats for the game backed it up, I was fine with it. Why aren't you? There's nothing underhanded or racist going on with Manning being named MVP. I think I'm doing myself a disservice discussing this issue...



"Logic dictates, but nobody's listening..."
Old Post 02-20-2007 07:22 PM
Click here to Send Sierradaddy a Private Message Find more posts by Sierradaddy Add Sierradaddy to your buddy list Sierradaddy's MSN ID is smoothline98@hotmail.com Reply w/Quote

Aggie1978
Enthusiast

offline
Registered: Nov 2005
Local time: 08:49 AM
Location: Texas
Posts: 47

post #9  quote:

quote:
HECK! said this in post #2 :
Peyton Manning was 25 of 38 for 247 yards and a touchdown and one interception. Most importantly, now pay attention here, Manning calls the plays from the line of scrimmage. That means he put his team in place to win. He rallied his team from a defecit and won the Super Bowl. That means he is the Most Valuable Player.

The Colts used a dual running back attack with Addai and Rhodes who combined for 190 yards rushing. If one of them had that yardage you could talk about them possibly being deserving. ...
-HECK!



quote:
Sierradaddy said this in post #4 :
Now, if there's an argument to be made that the MVP should've gone to someone other than Manning, how about someone on the Colts defense? They held Chicago to only a field goal for 3 quarters after being down by 14 after the first quarter. SOMEONE on their defensive squad must've had a standout game for that to have happened...


Malcolmxx, I would have to agree with both HECK! and Sierradaddy on this. There were multiple options for MVP during that game... and Peyton Manning was the choice by vote.


Old Post 02-20-2007 08:03 PM
Click here to Send Aggie1978 a Private Message Find more posts by Aggie1978 Add Aggie1978 to your buddy list Click Here to Ignore Aggie1978 REPORT this Post to a ModeratorNOMINATE this Post for Reward Points Reply w/Quote
Time: 02:49 PM Post New Thread   
  Print Version | Email Page | Bookmark | Subscribe to Thread
INReview INReview > Hot Topics > Agree2Disagree > Was Payton Manning The Super Bowl MVP?
Search this Thread:
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
Forum Policies Explained
 
Rate This Thread:

< - INReview.com >

Copyright ©2000 - 2007, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited
Page generated in 0.42428398 seconds (90.82% PHP - 9.18% MySQL) with 43 queries.

ADVERTISEMENTS
Support This Site! Shop @ INReview!


© 2007, INReview.com.   Popular Forums  My Favorites All Forums   Web Hosting and Web Design by Psyphire.
INReview.com: Back to Home