Well done you have actually posted an articvle witout reading it all the through.
You see Malcolm Mr El Barredi NEVER singled any one country in this now infamous interview but you never told anyone that did you? you made it appear as if El Barredi himsewlf mentioned those countries and he did not did he?
The countries you mntion which are in the article I garnt you well that is the writer doing a little research for himself ( thats why you got sonfused good research is foreign to you) All this stroy does is prove how much of a liar you are Firstly the artcle does not even mentions Scotland so why did you lie and put it in?
Also if you had done some further research you would have known that Poland, Moldova and Turkey have ditched the nuclear plans and Ghan can't afford it anymore.
See what you did was cut and paste bits of the story to make it look like El Barredi singled out these countries which he did not so you lied
You claimed Scotland was on this list but it was not so you lied again
And then you did no follow up research on these countries despite the article being nearly 5 months old and a knowing a lot has changed in those 5 months especially in EU poltics and policies so you were stupid.
There are a few things I don't undersatnd about the stroy esp regarding Poland. Poland was the main driving force behind the PSI for gods sake and has spent the last 4 years working with Russia to destroy waste that could be used for nukes and the UN should know that. So that rules Poland out.
As for egypt yes they made a mistake in Jan 200 but the IAEA had concluded that it was nothing more than an oversight on the part of egypt also they have cut a lot of contact with N. Korea.
As for poor old Bangladesh how it got involved in this stroy is beyond me. Bangladesh has an impeccable NPT record and although has expressed frustartion about the lack of disarmamanet it's leaders remain commited to the NPT.
Ghana despite being unable to afford a nuke has continaully reaffirmied it's "commitment to the articles in the treaty"
As for Indonesia maybe back in 65 when Sakuro was worried about Malaysia but not nowadays.
Namibia signed the NPT in the 90s and has so far remained commited
I will do the other ones later I need to do a little research on Thailand and nigeria before running my mouth on something I don't know about.
lodgebo said this in post #31 : Well done you have actually posted an articvle witout reading it all the through.
You see Malcolm Mr El Barredi NEVER singled any one country in this now infamous interview but you never told anyone that did you? you made it appear as if El Barredi himsewlf mentioned those countries and he did not did he?
The countries you mntion which are in the article I garnt you well that is the writer doing a little research for himself ( thats why you got sonfused good research is foreign to you) All this stroy does is prove how much of a liar you are Firstly the artcle does not even mentions Scotland so why did you lie and put it in?
Also if you had done some further research you would have known that Poland, Moldova and Turkey have ditched the nuclear plans and Ghan can't afford it anymore.
See what you did was cut and paste bits of the story to make it look like El Barredi singled out these countries which he did not so you lied
You claimed Scotland was on this list but it was not so you lied again
And then you did no follow up research on these countries despite the article being nearly 5 months old and a knowing a lot has changed in those 5 months especially in EU poltics and policies so you were stupid.
Because of fast pace, the number of countries in article and reading many articles on Scotland with the word nuclear in it, anyone could subconciously write scotland. I'm able to apologize for a mistake that doesn't spin article.
What about claims you made in post#2 that now have been lproven wrong? Just admit your claims have been proven false. Actually, because of your research you prove yourself to be ignorant.
ElBaradei was crtical of nuclear-weapons states for not signing or ratifying the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, which prohibits all nuclear explosions. It will not take effect until it has been ratified by 44 states that have nuclear programs.
So far, 34 have ratified it. Countries that refuse to sign include the U.S., China, Israel, India, Pakistan and North Korea.
Because of fast pace, the number of countries in article and reading many articles on Scotland with the word nuclear in it, anyone could subconciously write scotland. I'm able to apologize for a mistake that doesn't spin article.
So now you are saying you are not a liar just incompotent right? well glad you are seeing what we all saw months ago. I don't buy it though, had somebody else put Scotland on that list I would accept that mistakes happen nobodys perfect, but when it's a guy that has spent months with pathetic borderline childish attempts tp prove that Scotland has nukes well I don't buy that it was a mistake your posting history on this subject is eveidence enough. Also you did spin it lets be honest yopu wanted post #1 to appear as if the whole article was El Barredi's word you just were not banking on me finding an aticle which BTW was pretty obscure you don't to know the carp I had to do to get the link.
What about claims you made in post#2 that now have been lproven wrong? Just admit your claims have been proven false. Actually, because of your research you prove yourself to be ignorant.
WEll lets see what I said and what is wrong shall we. sse the next post.
[QUOTE]lodgebo said this in post #2 :
[B]Malcolm lets cut to the chase you are a liar and I can prove it. You made this "report" from Mr Elbarradei up.
Ok I got this bit wrong I have the balls to admith when I am wrong maybe you should do the same RE Scotland an nuclear weapons.
Firstly Elbarradei does not call himself the chief he is the director general,
Thats true he ALWAYS calls himself Director general not the chief.
secondly I doubt that the IAEA director general would be so stupid as to lie and say that all members of the "nuclear club" have used thier nukes,
This is another of your lies cos he never said that in the article did he?
You mentions Scotland again, so now Mr Elbarradei has broken up the UK and showed complete ignorance about where Britains nuclear detterent is held
Not going over this again your wrong admit it and move on.
Moldova this would be the same Moldova who confirmed to the IAEA on May 2006 that it is commited to non proliferation right that same country?
Thats true check it out if you don't belive me.
Also I am surpised that he mentioned Ghana when he must have full knowledge that a country like Ghana a country that is heavily dependent on aid cannot afford a nuclear program.
Agian thats true and Ghana have commited not to pursue nukes.
And then I checked on the IAEA website surely if the director general had spouted this BS he or his organisation would have put it on thier webpage. So I checked the press releases and news page and even the director generals page and guess what, shock horror this report does not exsist. How do you explain all of this malcolm?
Thats true it's not on the IAEA webpage at all, like I said it's an obscure article and it shows how highley regarded the IAEA hold it that theyw ont carry it on thier website.
So see malcolm I did not lie what I did was do some research if you bothered doing any you would have found all this out for yourself.
malcolm xx said this in post #34 : Elbaradei article:
ElBaradei was crtical of nuclear-weapons states for not signing or ratifying the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, which prohibits all nuclear explosions. It will not take effect until it has been ratified by 44 states that have nuclear programs.
So far, 34 have ratified it. Countries that refuse to sign include the U.S., China, Israel, India, Pakistan and North Korea.
You do know there is a big diffrence between the CTBT and the NPT right? also the PSI.
RE the post I was doing on countries and thier nuclear status I need a bit more info on Thailand and it might take a few dys so I won't be able to post anything about it until Wednesday at the earliest so just giving my apologies for the delay.
WEll lets see what I said and what is wrong shall we. sse the next post.
I gave you source and name of the Elbarradei article, so why would I be trying to hide it? The work I did to find article is the only reason you were able to have it. Remember you said it didn't exist and deceive others by saying I made it up.
Why do you continue to try and cover Scotland's involvment with nuclear technology? Have you read links in post #6 and #7? Scotland has been exposed, the cover has been blown.
Do you believe I would say all 9 nuclear states have used their weapons? I may have wrote setence wrong but I respect everyone's intelligence to understand what I was trying to say. Your the only one wo has a promblem because you have wiitchunt against me.
Have you read post number 8 re Scotlands ( sorry Britains) nuclear technology. You know malcolm my 5 yeard old neighbour can understand how the UK is set up and who has responsability for what and yet you can and you are probabaly ten yeard older than her, that says a lot for your intellignce does it not that a 5 year old can grap in an hour what you have not grasped in a year. But lets try one last time and see if we can getbthrought that thick skull of yours:
The United Kingodm is 4 countries Wales, England, Scotland and Northern but not the republic of Ireland in 2001 power was devolved not taken away from London in regard to wales, Scotland and N. Ireland. The devolved parliments were responsible for things like:
Health
Education
Crime
Local funding
To give you an example of the diffrences in Scotland in Scotland if you are sick and their is a drug you get it regrdless of cost in England cost is taken into consideration
In Scotland our elderly get free care don't think that happens in England
In Scotland you don't pay uni fees while you are at uni.
In Scotland hunting wioth dogs is banned not innEngland
In Scotland smoking in public places is banned not in England ( in july it will be not now)
So you see the diffrences that devolution brings
Now things that we are not responsabile for is:
Amount of funding that devolved governments get (It's an awkward issue that you won't get)
Immigration
Police tactics
Public sector pay
And importantly in this issue Malcolm military and power issues. Anyhting militray wise in scotland including thoise subs are British not Scottish and that is the same for power. Oh and FYI the weapons that go on the subs might not even be in Scotlandbut you already knmew that right.
Oh and if we were involved in a covert program ofnuclear technolgy why have we not been poulled up by the rest of the UK after all the funding we get comes from London remember surely they would think we are spending money awful fast when in fact we send a lotof it back. The UN have said very little not even a draft resolution on it ditto the EU why is that?
03-31-2007 02:40 AM
this report does not exsist. How do you explain all of this malcolm?
