Some say the belief that marriage should be between a man and a woman only is a millennia old system of control manifested from the writings of religious men who flocked across the known world as missionaries and crusaders eager to tame the heathens who had with multiple wives and/or partners of all ages and engaged in sexual relations. Personally, echoes of self-appointed holy men shaking a disparaging finger at me from thousands of years ago doesn't make it gospel and certainly doesn't speak to what is right and wrong today.
I think the fundamental debate about marriage should be this:
The definition of marriage suggests that it's between a man and a woman. There for the word implies man and woman.
Should we change the definition of marriage to include either sex?
Should we create a second institution which is between either sex, leaving marriage the way it is?
Religious people tend to believe that it's a sin to be homosexual, or at least don't approve of it. But marriage is a religious institution, so my question is, why would gay people WANT to get "married" when they could create a new, broader, legally binding institution?
Personally, I am straight, and I will NEVER get married. Maybe some day if there's a better institution out there I'll go for it, but marriage is a joke.
Please pardon my pseudo-intellectuaphilisophicalismysiticality.
In the UK we had a problem i this area because the government wanted to have same sex marriages but the church and some other right wing grops went crazy, so the government created civil partnershipswhich are open to anybody regardles of wether you are straight or gay. Basically you get married in a registarts office, town hall or a church if they will take you, go through a small ceremony and you are done and I believe that you get the same rights that are given to married couples it seems to be a rather popular move and I think Elton John was one of the first to do it.
Sayzak has a point here. Marriage is a religious institution. This is why its vows are traditionally done in religious institutions (churches, synagogues, mosques, etc). The vows of marriage contain promises made before God and man and typically ended with “whom God has joined together”. Therefore, it stands to reason that religious leaders would chime in on something they consider this important.
Sayzak, I don’t think marriage is a joke, I believe the players make it so. Most people repeating the vows have no idea what they are doing. I agree it’s a difficult life to live because you commit yourself to a person who has issues at heart that hasn’t been effectively dealt with.
Lastly, I believe people will inevitably do what they want to do despite whether it being right or wrong. Today, the label on the jars get switched around so much, you don’t know which is which. People will justify almost anything they do despite it being right or wrong because they pleasure in doing it and this is true of the gay and the straight. However because you put a peanut butter label on the jelly jar doesn’t mean that the jar is now peanut butter.
I personally believe in God. And if you don’t you have to believe in nature at the very least. Whether God or nature, everything is created with purpose. When it’s not functioning inside of its purpose the end result is abuse. That’s just a principle of life.
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Well, marriage isn't totally a religious institution. John & Jane Sixpack could go down to the local courthouse and get an ol' fashioned shotgun wedding. Drinky McDrinkerson and Lola The Stripper could tie the knot at a casino in Vegas.
Yes, traditionally it's in a place of worship. It's also a legal union- income, debt, taxes, etc. At this point, roughly half the population is eligible to marry the other half. But once people could legally marry 100% of the population it could be big trouble for the IRS and several other government agencies.
I agree today, marriage isn’t just a religious institution but it is derived from religion. Man takes woman and makes vows to God and "voila", man has wife.
Many laws in our societies are based in religion. Marriage is one of them. In the past there were never any issues as to whether same sexes would marry. Today, almost anything is acceptable as being normal and throughout the centuries right has been redefined and laws have been rewritten to reflect this.
As for the IRS, that’s another story. I think their tantamount to legal racketeering.
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President Bush on Iraq war exit strategy from 2003 to 2008. “ “
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