He refers to Islamofacism as a conflict between fascist Islam and liberal Islam. The only other reason that I could find given for the conflict is that the Janjaweed are committing genocide in order to steal the cattle from the Africans. If that were the case, we could settle the whole problem by providing free cattle. It would only be a tiny problem to fix.
I could be wrong but I think this guy is referring to the 20 year civil war in Sudan that resulted in 2 million dead Christians and 5 million dead overall in that war the rebel fighters were mainly Muslim fanatcis who were about Sharri law being removed .
As for the cattle well that's the first time I have heard that but if all they want is cattle we could solve that problem in a weer or two we could start a campaign heifers for humanity or something like that.
lodgebo said this in post #17 : I could be wrong but I think this guy is referring to the 20 year civil war in Sudan that resulted in 2 million dead Christians and 5 million dead overall in that war the rebel fighters were mainly Muslim fanatcis who were about Sharri law being removed .
As for the cattle well that's the first time I have heard that but if all they want is cattle we could solve that problem in a weer or two we could start a campaign heifers for humanity or something like that.
You are wrong. All of your post are wrong. Where do you get your info? Do you have a home in Sudan? you write as if you do? But know one is allowed to post any facts on Scotland? I hope you can see this hypocracy? But let me try an correct you:
The Janaweed militia come from the same ethnic group and religion as the people they are allegedly killing. Everyone in Darfur is Black, African, Arabic speaking and Muslim. US media accuse Sudanes gov of supporting Janjaweed but doesn't mention Sudan defense minister has condemned them as "bandits" and recently sentenced six Janjaweed to horrible punishment. Why hasn't this been reported? Why don't we hear about the rebel groups Janjaweed are fighting or about any crimes thea they may have committed? Does anyone know that Sudan has huge untapped OIL reserves in Darfur and southern Sudan?
The Janaweed militia come from the same ethnic group and religion as the people they are allegedly killing. Everyone in Darfur is Black, African, Arabic speaking and Muslim. US media accuse Sudanes gov of supporting Janjaweed but doesn't mention Sudan defense minister has condemned them as "bandits" and recently sentenced six Janjaweed to horrible punishment. Why hasn't this been reported? Why don't we hear about the rebel groups Janjaweed are fighting or about any crimes thea they may have committed? Does anyone know that Sudan has huge untapped OIL reserves in Darfur and southern Sudan?
I have yet to hear anything from the U.S. media that explains anything about this conflict. I have heard several news reports that beg for help to stop the genocide, but no indication of why the genocide is taking place. Some news reports make demands that the U.S. fix the problem, and seem to almost accuse Bush of bearing responsibility for the problem because he has not fixed it. That message comes across quite clear in U.S. news media.
So are you saying that the motivation of the Janjaweed is to steal oil revenue?
Is the Sudan goverment incapable of controlling the Janjaweed?
If both sides in the conflict are Isalmic, why do I keep hearing that the Janjaweed want to drive out the Africans, so they can form an Islamic state?
You are wrong. All of your post are wrong. Where do you get your info? Do you have a home in Sudan?
Do you have a home in Sudan? have you ever been to Africa at all?
But know one is allowed to post any facts on Scotland? I hope you can see this hypocracy?
First of all it is no not know. As for posts on Scotland anyone can post things about Scotland here if they want I can't stop them. However when people post total and utter crap about Scotland I will pull them up on it for example Scotland harbourin nukes. If you want to post stuff about Scotlan fine go for it make tharead see if I care but if you are wrong I will take you to school on it and lets be honest Malcolm that is something I have had a lot of parctice on
But let me try an correct you:
This oughta be good .
The Janaweed militia come from the same ethnic group and religion as the people they are allegedly killing. Everyone in Darfur is Black, African, Arabic speaking and Muslim.
I know that you idiot I have said that the Africans beinf driven our are mainly but not totally Islamic - just like the Janajweed. But they are NOT from the same Ethnic group the Janajweed are from the Nomadic people in Sudan and many went to Libya in the 80's and 90's and trained in Islamic camps. the Janjaweed like the governemnt want to see Sharri law brought back to the area they want the local authorities destoroyed. Do your self a favour Malcolm look back to the numerous civl wars and disagreements from 56 onwards, look at the positive role Sudan took in the Ethiopian and Chad crisises and look at the rise of this government and thae fall of the last and look at thge growth of the Janjaweed as fighters instead of Nomads do that and you MIGHT get a clearer picture. I have read up on about 60% of this stuff and it still confuses me
US media accuse Sudanes gov of supporting Janjaweed but doesn't mention Sudan defense minister has condemned them as "bandits" and recently sentenced six Janjaweed to horrible punishment. Why hasn't this been reported? Why don't we hear about the rebel groups Janjaweed are fighting or about any crimes thea they may have committed? Does anyone know that Sudan has huge untapped OIL reserves in Darfur and southern Sudan?
Well I can't speqak for the US media but what I can tell you is that the UN does not belive that the government is disarming the Janjaweed that's why they wnat a better force in Darfur. in fact news reports on Monday showed a Sudanese governemnt helicoptor taking injured Janjaweed fighters to hospital while dropping off supplies.
The defence minster condemeed them to please the UN ask yourself what ministry did the Janjaweed get the weapons from?
As for rebel groups in Darfur there were none until the Janjaweed came along unfrotuantly foir the rebel groups that tried to challenge the Janjaweed the majority were wiped out by Sudanese government weapons. Even the AU are struggling to pout these guys down. Chad has condemmed them and the government because of they did ( they almost cuased a war between the 2 countries)
10-03-2006 10:01 PM
