At this point I honestly think it's time we talked. Listen to what he wants, tell him what we want and try and come to a solution. Of course there would have to be a few conditions namely:
that we are not going to be messed around any indication that we are being messed around or that he is playing for time will result in serious consquences.
That we get China and Russia to agree that these talks are the last chance for Iran and if they fail because of Iran then China and Russia will not veto any resolution.
That we have ALL major leaders and UN ambassadors at the talaks and that includes the US. Bush can't sit in the White House firing warnings while the rest of us try and solve the crisis. Right now the US stanmce on refuisng to talk to Iran is counter productive to a solution being achieved.
Then you are back to where we started sanctions that won't work and nobody that has the miltary, will or cash to stop him.
Either way he will continue enriching Uranium that is something we have to accept but if we can talk and find a way to stop him enriching Uranium instead of threating him we might get somewhere. For months maybe longer we have demanded he stops enriching Uranium and has he stopped? no, will he stop if we try to talk and negotiate? maybe who knows until we talk, are talks worth a try if it stops Iran making a bomb? yes.
The fact is that Iran is at the least 7 years off making a bomb so two weeks of talks while they continue to enrich Uranium ( while still being watched for any major changes) will not make a big deal.
Edward Teach said this in post #42 :
His version of negotiation is everyone do what he wants.
I've seen it said before "Ahmadinajad is play a game which he doesn't know the rules".
Exactly. That's why "negotiations" are useless. Done. Over. Anyone with half a brain can see this. Sanction the chump and bomb his facilities. That's a start.
"America is not what's wrong with the world. The struggle we are in is too important to have the luxury of returning to that old mentality of 'Blame America First.'" —Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld
Leftist "intellectuals" in America now look to Europe—steeped for years in anti-American propaganda from the Soviet Union.
Well anyoine with half a brain woild know that sanctions won't be passed and with the exception of gas ( maybe) there is very little that we could sanction that would hurt him.
As for bombing Iran that is probably the least thought out comment yet. America and / or Israel with all the bad press they have got recently and the view that the ME has of these two countries making what the ME would see as the first strike on a Muslim country witout international support or a resolution. You think countries like Jordan, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia will let that happen? you don't think it would increase the threat to US soldiers in Iraq?, NATO forces in Afghanistan and UN forces in Lebanon, you don't think Hizbollah will get all rowdy and start firing rockets back in to downtown Haifia and most worryingly you don't think Iran will retaliate you don't think that Irans air forces will be sent out the navy will be readied and the army including the revolutinary guard won't mobilised.
The fact remains that sanctions won't be passed and if they are they won't work. Also deapite what you think America does not have an endless resource of war money and missiles, tanks, soldiers, planes and widows pensiosns don't come cheap. Israel ahs not expressed a desire to go at this unilaterally ( can't blame them).
09-03-2006 10:30 PM
