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Possible heat-related deaths investigated

Monday, July 24, 2006; Posted: 10:47 a.m. EDT (14:47 GMT)


SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- Power companies worked to restore electricity to thousands of customers throughout California early Monday as a scorching heat wave threatened to push the state into a power emergency with the potential for more blackouts.

Authorities were looking into several deaths possibly related to the high temperatures, which hit the triple digits in some areas on Sunday.

With temperatures again expected to top 100 degrees, power demand was projected to reach an all-time high Monday and prompt some voluntary blackouts, in which some businesses agree to have their power shut off temporarily in exchange for lower rates, according to the Independent System Operator, California's power grid manager.

Those blackouts could become involuntary if customers don't conserve electricity, said ISO spokesman Gregg Fishman.

"It's actually critical that people conserve power," Fishman said.

Monday's forecast called for high temperatures in northern and central California to reach 111 degrees in Morgan Hills, 110 in Fresno, Stockton and Modesto and 109 in Bakersfield. Southern California's Woodland Hills was expected to reach 106.

No relief was expected until at least midweek, as weather conditions conspired to bake California's normally cool coast for the fourth straight day and bring Midwest-style humidity into the usually arid Central Valley.

Heavy electricity use as people turned up their air conditioners caused blackouts throughout the state over the weekend.

Early Monday, some 100,000 power customers in Northern California and the Central Valley still had no electricity, along with 44,000 in Southern California. That was down from a high of 180,000 customers affected over the weekend.

More than 100 patients were evacuated from the Beverly Healthcare Center in Stockton on Sunday after temperatures reached 115 degrees and the nursing home's air conditioning gave out.

Two patients were hospitalized with heat-related stress -- one died, and the other was in critical condition, said police spokesman Pete Smith.

Investigators were looking into possible criminal charges, although it was too early to tell whether the facility's operators were negligent, Smith said.

"It was very hot inside the facility, and you have to remember we're talking about elderly and infirm people who can't withstand the heat like a younger person would," he said.

A call to Beverly Healthcare's corporate headquarters in Fort Smith, Arkansas, was not returned Sunday.

Another Central Valley nursing home, Woodland Skilled Nursing Facility, evacuated its residents when managers realized its air conditioning system wasn't operating at peak capacity, according to the state Department of Health Services. No injuries were reported there.

In Modesto, a patient at Doctors Medical Center died Saturday of heart failure apparently caused by the heat after being admitted with a 106-degree temperature, hospital officials said. Two others were hospitalized with 108-degree temperatures.

In Kern County, authorities were investigating four possible heat-related deaths, including two from the past week.

Bakersfield gardener Joaquin Ramirez, 38, may have died of heat stroke after collapsing on the job late Wednesday. And on Thursday, a woman, whose name was not released, was found dead along a bike path in Ridgecrest.

In Arizona, heat is believed to have contributed to the deaths of two transient men in Phoenix over the weekend. One, believed to be in his 50s, died Sunday, and another, a 28-year-old man, died Saturday.

The deaths came during three days of record-breaking temperatures in Phoenix. The temperature soared to 114 degrees Sunday, breaking the record of 112 degrees set in 1906. Temperatures reached 118 degrees Friday and 116 degrees Saturday, breaking the previous record for both days of 112.

Meanwhile, in St. Louis, about 237,000 homes and businesses were still without electricity Monday morning, down from the more than a half-million that were left in the dark last week after strong storms cut the power and temperatures soared into triple digits. Four deaths in the region were attributed to the storms or heat.

In New York, thousands of Queens residents were facing their second week without power because of a blackout that at one point affected 25,000 customers. By Monday morning, electricity had been restored to about 22,000 of those homes, buildings and businesses, utility Consolidated Edison said.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


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Living in Southern California... in San Diego... I can vouch for these HIGH temps.
I live just a few minutes from the beaches here in SD, and our coastal area is usually pretty nice. But, we've been spiking into the 100's, temp wise, and it's not fun.

We've felt like we're baking, inside our homes, without a/c. Normally, you really don't NEED a/c, where I live. But, we're miserable. People don't want to do anything. I take multiple showers, and baths, daily. I put my feet in a pail of ice water. It's hard to sleep, because you can't breathe. I woke at 3am this morning, and all I wanted was a cold shower.

We're being threatened with blackouts, due to the high power usage all over California. That is going to suck, because all we have, at home, and work, are fans.


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Ahh, I thought this topic was actually about legalizing marijuana or something. Shows where my head is hah.


That's insane though, I can't imagine it being that hot. Any time table on when they are going to get things back working.


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Oh, there's enough pot in California, to smoke out the middle east

But, alas, this is regarding the HEAT that we're being hit with.

I haven't heard a time table. I think that the "powers that be" are working on things, as fast as possible.


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The hottest day in La Mesa's recorded history was saturday. 109F! SHEESH IT WAS HOT!

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Trust me....if anyone feels for you guys and understands, its me!

The temps our here when the power was out for many the next day was over 100 degrees (because of the humidity added).

Whats with the damn blackouts in MO, New York, and Cali?

Kind of freaky isnt it?


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post #7  quote:

It's a power surge. Everyone is running a/c, etc... and it's just too much!!!
I don't understand it... but, that's how it's been for some time.

I can't stand not having a/c... but, I'm learning that it's life, to not have it.

What sucks... when they turn off the power, and we have to sit at work, in the dark, and keep working.


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Man I feel for all you guys that are dealing with heat and it must be unbearable with no power. Intrestingly a lot of countries are suffering from these unusually high tempratures, all of Europe is in a heatwave but we are only in the 80- 90's.

The power thing obvioulsy makes things worse and it must be hard knowing there is nothing you can do but hopefully you will get it back soon. If you want a tip to try and coll yourself down get coll water ( not freezing cold) and pour it on both wrists and on the back of your neck, it brings your body temp down for a while.

Lawless I am surprised you are made to work in the dark and in the heat you are describing are there not laws in th US about working in excessive heat and without electricity?


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You know, lodgebo... it hasn't happened a lot here. But, when we've lost power (sometimes up to 3 - 5 hours) we've not been sent home. It's REALLY frustrating... esp working for the gov't. *sigh* It could be much worse though.

I really think that we all need to take a serious look into global warming (see that movie that Al Gore did) and realize that we have serious problems headed our way.


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Hey Mr. F, I would trade 109 for 120 any day. It's about 109 at 7pm out here. Ugh.

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See, you need to drive down here, and have it a little better.

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Is this with heat index or without?

I lived in washington DC for a long time, and the heat index would reach 100 about 10 or so times a summer..and that was bad, especially with the humidity. Maybe I feel your pain a tad.


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the 109 was the temp. No heat index. Plain miserable.

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The humidity here, in San Diego county, is 81%

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Oh, there's enough pot in California, to smoke out the middle east


That is so true. I live in California as well and it feels like the Sahara Desert; dead in the afternoon.

I hate it!


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I heard people are fainting at Disneyland.

I stay in the office all day. Pee on the heat.

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I WISH that we had a/c at work. Nope... we sit here, baking, and soaking, in high heats, and 80+ % humidity. I HATE IT!!

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No a/c at your office? Damn.

The chicks in my department crank the temp way down. It has to be 70 in here.

And I'm drinking a frosty bottle of water. Yup, this is the life.

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It really sucks here, Heck. Unless I happen to go over to my mom's, I don't have a/c... unless you count a short jaunt in the car. It's not enough.

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I was there a few weeks ago and as much as my girlfriend cursed the weather, I was not mad. You got to understand it's 10-20 degrees cooler to me.

But yeah, I stay in the office all day. I had to go get lunch for the office earlier this week and was sweating bullets instantly. Luckily I have this parking space that gets shade in the afternoon so the car isn't too bad when I get in it. Usually it's like a punch in the face when I open the door. It was so bad over the weekend I couldn't touch the steering wheel all the way to the store. I drove with my legs, it's only about 5 minutes away though. Still. That was the only time I left the house that day. Didn't even want to go outside to smoke.

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Luckily, I get to work early enough, that I get to park under a HUGE tree. I have full shade, the entire day, and my car isn't hot after I leave the office. That makes the a/c kick in really fast, and make my car cold as hell.

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My a/c gets going pretty quick too when the car has a little shade. I crank that bad boy.

I should get a window cover and all that. But I'd rather complain about it

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82 here

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Yeah, come winter, it is you who will be the... uh... one who isn't smiling.

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It was 102 here the other day. If it gets any hotter I could fry an egg on the pavement.

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Just used a C to F converter. It's 98 here today, but the A/C inside is so awesome.

Hottest day I ever experienced was back in Australia. 107. I think I passed out that day; I don't remember.


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Well our heatwave has finished, back to the cold and the rain.

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I can't believe in our day and age that we would still be getting blackouts! It truly amazes me. I know there are better ways to produce energy..there has to be!

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heat sucks here too - i work at the zoo, being outside all day - sucks
one day it was 117 degrees F.
C=(5/9)*(Tf-32)
Celsius = 47.2 - for those that don't use F
and humid.
heh, and people think iraq is hot. try death valley, most toasty place on earth.
not that i live there but
little over 10 people have died from heat here.


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