Arnie said that without admitting his guilt and asking for forgiveness there could be no clemency.
It is sad that the state had to put a man to death, but his crime was more sad. The circle of violence is complete and five people are now dead. Time to move on.
After watching her longtime friend die, Barbara Becnel told the crowd of hundreds gathered outside prison gates that she would prove Williams' innocence and that Schwarzenegger was a "cold-blooded murderer."
Huh? The only time Arnie shot people dead with a shotgun was when he played a robot sent from the future. Tookie did it for real.
O.K., TOOKIE PAID FOR HIS CRIMES WITH HIS LIFE, WHO'S GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THOSE INNOCENT MEN AND WOMEN THAT WERE KILLED IN WAR OVER THERE IN IRAQ? THOSE ARE ALL SENSELESS KILLINGS AS WELL. DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY BRIGHT IDEAS ABOUT THAT????
*Gaboman goes on a rant about taxes and how they're murdering all Americans!*
I don't know the specifics of the case, but to sentence a man to death... there's gotta be a pretty good lot of evidence against you to be able to get that doozy of a punishment. And if what Arnie says in HECK's quote up there is true, he's not admitting guilt yet asking for forgiveness?? Naw...
"I'm for it so we can put Nuclear power plants up there, and then beam the power back to earth on a laser beam." ~ Whidden
IN RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU SAID LAWLESS, MY POST DOES HAVE TO DO WITH TOOKIE, SINCE MOST OF YOU THINK JUSTICE WAS SERVED AND YOU'RE FOR PEOPLE PAYING FOR THEIR CRIMES NOW MAYBE YOU CAN START VOICING YOUR OPINIONS ON HAVING SOMEONE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE AMERICAN DEATHS IN IRAQ, AND HAVING SOMEONE PAY FOR THOSE CRIMES
gaboman said this in post #21 : *Gaboman goes on a rant about taxes and how they're murdering all Americans!*
I don't know the specifics of the case, but to sentence a man to death... there's gotta be a pretty good lot of evidence against you to be able to get that doozy of a punishment. And if what Arnie says in HECK's quote up there is true, he's not admitting guilt yet asking for forgiveness?? Naw...
I am opposed to the death penalty in all cases, and there are many cases where people are put to death where there is so much misconduct and/or lack of evidence. In one case the condemned man was sent to the electric chair and his head burst into flames; and THEN they decided to hear his case and overturn the conviction. It's just unfair.
However, if you do read about the evidence and witnesses for this case, it's a very solid case against Williams that doesn't just boil down to witness testimony (this is exactly how the guy I mentioned earlier was sentenced to death). He even incriminated himself during police interviews without suggestion, they asked him how many shots were fired in the killing at motel, he said five twice and then denied it. That's information only the killer would know.
Nonethless, I don't believe in the death penalty, but I don't see Williams as a reason to push for abolition of the death penalty or clemency for the condemned. Had his crimes been directly related to his gang activity, then I would be much more supportive.
I still voted that his life should be spared because as HECK said, 5 people are dead now. I don't see justice served, just vengeance.
But to the people supportive of the death penalty, they should see the play The Exonerated, it's about 25 people exonerated and actors playing out their interview. I believe there is a TV version (at least IMDb says so: The Exonerated). The guy playing Jesse is the guy I mentioned earlier, he was on death row with his wife, but was executed before his conviction was overturned.
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- Bill Cosby
The guy who takes a chance, who walks the line between the known and unknown, who is unafraid of failure, will succeed.
- Gordon Parks
one and only said this in post #22 : IN RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU SAID LAWLESS, MY POST DOES HAVE TO DO WITH TOOKIE, SINCE MOST OF YOU THINK JUSTICE WAS SERVED AND YOU'RE FOR PEOPLE PAYING FOR THEIR CRIMES NOW MAYBE YOU CAN START VOICING YOUR OPINIONS ON HAVING SOMEONE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE AMERICAN DEATHS IN IRAQ, AND HAVING SOMEONE PAY FOR THOSE CRIMES
one and only, if you want to discuss the Iraq War, do so in the proper forum. Lawless gave you a polite warning, if you ignore it you could find yourself in violation of forum policy.
If you need to discuss the matter further, PM myself or any other Moderator or Administrator here.
This particular forum is about TOOKIE WILLIAMS, and not Iraq, as I stated to you.
If you want to discuss the useless deaths of American's, and other people, around the world, discuss those things in their proper forums... otherwise, you're
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12-13-2005 04:15 PM
