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I picked that one, cause she was lookin F-I-N-E, FINE.

Indeed, Famke Jansen is a good looking individual.


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Indeed, Famke Jansen is a good looking individual.



OH yeah she is, but I was talking about the dr. jean pic I posted, lets see here it is:



oops, photobucket is down today, so all my pics are red x for now, I will come back later and post it.



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That's ok. Phoenix and Jean Grey are the same person, just at different power levels. The Phoenix is a cosmic entity that seems to be symbiotic, and it attaches itself to the psyche (I believe) of its host. It almost always links with women (in fact, I think it ONLY joins with women), and I believe that it's most attracted to empaths and women who have intense emotional expression.

The Phoenix is neither good nor evil, but it can be joined to someone who is good or evil, and thus the powers it offers to its host can be used for good or evil. A person joined to the Phoenix entity that is good, usually gets called The Phoenix. One who uses the powers of the Phoenix for evil, generally is called The Dark Phoenix. If I remember correctly, that's the general gist of it. Jean Grey kinda swung both ways, as she was the Dark Phoenix for awhile. Apparently, the Phoenix incites a greater level of emotional influence within its host, so Jean Grey's personality kinda changed while she was The Phoenix.

So Whidden, I think you posted the right Jean Grey. It doesn't appear to be Jean Grey as The Phoenix. You did good, brother.


In the comics, the Phoenix entity took her physical form and memories, but it wasn't Jean Grey. After Phoenix turned Dark and later died everyone thought it was her. Later, just before the X-Factor book began, The Avengers found her in a cacoon at the bottom of the ocean, where she had been the whole time.

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"...the X-Men were kidnapped by Steven Lang's Sentinels and taken aboard Lang's space station. After defeating Lang the X-Men had to escape back to Earth aboard a space shuttle during a solar radiation storm. The craft's pilot had to sit in an area without enough shielding to protect him or her from the lethal radiation. Grey volunteered to be pilot, but while guiding the shuttle to Earth, the solar radiation finally proved to be too great for Grey to hold back any longer with her powers. She began to succumb to the radiation's lethal effects.

It was long believed that Grey had indeed died aboard the space shuttle but became linked with a primal energy force known as the "phoenix-force" which recreated and reentered her body, The vastly more powerful being took the code name Phoenix. Phoenix joined the X-Men, but Grey had not had the proper training for coping with such immense power. At first Grey's strong moral sense kept the phoenix force under control, and usually subconsciously prevented her from using her powers beyond a certain limit. But then Phoenix fell victim to psychic manipulation by Mastermind, who was attempting to prove his worthiness to become a member of the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club by mesmerizing Phoenix into becoming its new Black Queen. He psychically induced dark, repressed desires from within Grey's consciousness to come to the surface of Phoenix's mind, submerging Grey's true normal personality. Phoenix finally freed herself of Mastermind's control, but was unable to prevent the dark side of Grey's personality with the full power of the phoenix-force behind it, from overwhelming her, not having had the training necessary to repress it. Grey's true personality was submerged more fully than before, and Phoenix became the malevolent Dark Phoenix. After Dark Phoenix wreaked incredible devastation, Grey's true personality reasserted control of Phoenix once more, and, before Cyclops' horrified eyes, Phoenix committed suicide rather than revert to Dark Phoenix. Summers mourned Grey, and eventually married Madelyne Pryor, who greatly resembled her.

It was later revealed that Grey did not die, nor had she ever become Phoenix. The phoenix-force responded to Grey's anguish and telepathic calls for help as she was dying aboard the space shuttle, and appeared before her, shaping its form and consciousness after Grey's own. The phoenix-force told Grey that she was dying, but that by taking the phoenix-force's hands, Grey would gain her "heart's desire." What Grey most wanted was to save the lives of the X-Men and herself. She held onto the phoenix-force's arm and fell into a coma-like state. Simultaneously, the phoenix-force fully took on both the form and the memories and personality of Jean Grey. The phoenix-force used its powers to ensure the survival of the X-Men in their return to Earth and crash landing in Jamaica Bay off New York City. It was also responsible for casting Grey into a coma-like state and placing her within a pod like construction, which rested for years at the bottom of Jamaica Bay while Grey's injuries healed completely. Thus the phoenix-force fulfilled its pledge to Grey. The phoenix-force creature compelled itself to believe it was indeed Grey, whose personality it had assumed. Indeed, it had imitated Grey's consciousness so perfectly that not even Xavier realized the imposture. It has been theorized that it was the phoenix-entity's own power rebelling against the duplicate of Grey's personality it had given itself that caused it to become Dark Phoenix. When Phoenix committed suicide, it was acting exactly as Grey herself would have done under the circumstances, since it had endowed itself with an exact copy of Grey's personality.

Many months after Phoenix's death, the Avengers found Grey's pod beneath Jamaica Bay and brought it to the Fantastic Four for study. Grey released herself from the pod, at first unable to remember her encounter with the phoenix-force, but with the help of the Avengers and Fantastic Four, she recalled what had happened and learned what happened to Phoenix. As a result of her harrowing experiences, Grey had somehow lost her telepathic powers, but the strength of her telekinetic powers had greatly increased. "

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