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(CNN) -- Does Michael Jackson have a future in the music business if he's acquitted in his child molestation trial?

That depends on whether you believe he had a future before the child molestation trial.

"Is there something there to be recovered? I'm not sure that there is," said Syracuse University professor and pop culture expert Robert Thompson. "It's been close to a decade since people have looked forward to a new Michael Jackson release, rather than the latest scandal or bizarre event. ... What he was doing [in the last decade] was manufacturing scandal that we enjoyed consuming."

Indeed, scandal is what has kept Jackson in the news. As his album sales have declined and his singles have failed to approach the impact or chart position of "Billie Jean," "Beat It" or even "Black or White" (all No. 1 hits), Jackson has become better known as tabloid fodder rather than for his latest musical achievement.

Indeed, ask people about the last decade for Michael Jackson and they're more likely to talk about his two brief marriages, his baby dangling or his changing facial appearance rather than recall hits such as "Stranger In Moscow," "They Don't Care About Us" or "Butterflies."

'You're a superstar, you're a legend'
Thompson's comments echo those others have made recently.

As a musical force, Forbes magazine said in 2002, Jackson is "a franchise in decline." Entertainment Weekly's David Browne was more pointed in a 2001 review of Jackson's album "Invincible:" "So out of touch with reality that he still calls himself the 'King of Pop' despite evidence to the contrary, he's clearly desperate to top every pop chart like he once did," Browne wrote. "... He's become more of a fairytale figure than he ever imagined: He's pop's Lost Boy."

Said his one-time confidant Rabbi Shmuley Boteach just before the current trial, "Michael's life is in serious decline even without this indictment."

"His career was in dire shape before the trial happened," noted Entertainment Weekly Senior Editor Rob Brunner. "His 2001 attempted comeback album, 'Invincible' ... didn't sell near enough to recoup [his label] Sony's investment."

Which doesn't mean the music industry has given up on its one-time golden child.

"Sounds like he's running. He doesn't have to," Island/Def Jam Records President Antonio "LA" Reid told CNN. "You are Michael Jackson. Understand what that means. You're a superstar, you're a legend."

If Jackson were under Reid's guidance, the label president -- known for crafting Mariah Carey's recent comeback -- would get him out in public, away from the isolation of Neverland.

"Move to New York City and start to feel some of the concrete," said Reid. "Go to the restaurants, go out and hang, go to the club and listen to some music ... so people are like, 'Guess what, Michael is bordering on normal.' "

But Brunner said that taking on Jackson would be a risk for most labels, even with the upside. Making a Michael Jackson album is an expensive proposition, he observed, and Jackson's behavior even before the trial -- at a press conference, he called former Sony Music executive Tommy Mottola "devilish" and accused him of using racist language -- makes him a question mark for the big marketing campaign a new record would entail.

Whither Jackson?

Jackson's 1982 album "Thriller" remains one of the biggest-selling albums of all time.
Jackson would be far from the first celebrity to make a comeback from notoriety, even from sex-related charges.

Errol Flynn's fame only increased after his 1942 trial on statutory rape charges, though the actor was drained by the experience; Chuck Berry overcame conviction on Mann Act charges (transporting a minor over state lines for immoral purposes) -- and two years in prison -- to re-attain chart success, though he was never the consistent hit-maker he was in the late 1950s.

However, because of the charges against him, assertions regarding his behavior and -- no small detail in the youth-obsessed entertainment business -- his advancing age (Jackson will be 47 in August), Jackson probably has a tougher battle than other celebrities.

"He still has some of the same mystique, but now the mystery has flopped from an asset to a liability," said Thompson. " 'Who is the real Michael Jackson?' is not a question people want to ask anymore, when you're accused of something like this."

Indeed, perhaps the most cautionary tale is that of Fatty Arbuckle, subject of perhaps the most infamous sex-related case in entertainment history: the rape and death of actress Virginia Rappe related to a party that Arbuckle attended in 1921.

Arbuckle was acquitted of manslaughter after three trials, but he was blacklisted by the film industry and, for many years, could find work only as a director. He made a short-lived comeback in the early 1930s but died in 1933 at age 46 before he could capitalize. (For more on the Arbuckle case, click here.)

Jackson has built his career on being family-friendly yet musically thrilling, safe for children yet engaging for teens and adults. Intimations of sexual predilections won't help his career; neither will the current music business, which has undergone changes in style and consumer tastes since Jackson's 1980s domination.

"The trial notwithstanding," says Thompson of Jackson, "all kinds of things conspire against his being a music superstar again."

But Reid still has faith. If called by Jackson, he said, he wouldn't hesitate.

"I would absolutely sign Michael," he said.


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I don't see the American public wanting anything of his. Maybe Europe would want his music, but I don't see it happening here.

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I agree Fuscia!

I know, that for me anyways, I wouldnt pay a dime for one of his CD's.

Im not gonna fund his life so he can molest someone else and use my money for his hush fund.



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I never liked his music, but even if I did, I would not support anything that gives him one cent.

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I should have listened to my grandmother when she kept saying in the 1980's:
"Why is he grabbing down there...in front of all those children...thrash, nothing but thrash."


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I should have listened to my grandmother when she kept saying in the 1980's:
"Why is he grabbing down there...in front of all those children...thrash, nothing but thrash."


My mom said that too. I think she also mentioned he might want to try better fitting underwear so he could keep his hands off himself.


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My mom said that too. I think she also mentioned he might want to try better fitting underwear so he could keep his hands off himself.




We may be related.
My grandmother had a sister in Gardenia, CA....I have lots of family in San Diego too.


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We may be related.
My grandmother had a sister in Gardenia, CA....I have lots of family in San Diego too.


My mom hails from Missouri. No relatives other than a sister in VA. Still, it is funny that we have relatives that say stuff like that huh?


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Meh, I think it'll be about the same. The last child molestation case against him already did the damage, I'm sure there's still plenty of folk in American who'll buy his music. He always sold better in Europe though.


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My mom hails from Missouri. No relatives other than a sister in VA. Still, it is funny that we have relatives that say stuff like that huh?


Ummm.
Just one more question...is your Mom's maiden name "Freeman."

I was adopted and my natural mother is from Missouri. I'm serious. I had the court papers with her full name. First name started with an "N."
This is strange.

By the way, I hope MJ never has a career in the music industry ever again...only making license plates.


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I don't see why he would want to subject himself to failure if he would even try to make another CD. Sure Europeans eat his music up, but over her in the States, his attempts would fall dead, thus making more of hasbeen out of himself than ever.

I think he should take the last of his pride (if aquitted) and just lay low or get into producing someone else. And really, I don't think anyone else wants to hear another song about him being mis-treated....like in DS, They don't care about us, Tabloid Junkie, Privacy and Money.....give it a rest already!!!!


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