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What is Love, or precisely what does love mean post #1  quote:



I believe that the word love is possibly the most mis-defined word in all languages of our world. I was thinking of this today when I heard someone talking about his wife which he said he loved but from the words I could not detect any feelings of love.

There seems to be many kinds of love when you analyze the situation.

based on my experiences.
I believe that parental love for a child is the #1 love.
#2 I believe would have to be our reciprocal love for our parents (children seem to go through at least 3 stages of love for their parents, first a return of the unconditional love given them, then resentment for controlling them then later realization that they were right and that they loved you unconditionally)#3 is our love for animals that give us back the love we give them. very similar to the love we have for our children and without doubt can be substituted for #1 or #2)
#4 would be spouses love, but clearly that is more up and down than the previous 3 types. (perhaps I have just been unfortunate in that regard since all my statements are based on my own experience)
#5 would be our siblings, probably should be higher but we always seem to have much conflict with them and we are expected to love them without any attempt to discuss conflict (sorry, I realize that this may be just another example of my personal experience)
So what does the above mean? clearly in cases of #2 and #3 we are merely returning the love given us. and in case #1 (our strongest feeling of love) it could be just endorphins (research has shown that pictures of babies of any kind produce endorphins which stimulates the pleasure center of the brain, {just hold a baby orangutan for 1 minute and tell me that you haven't fallen in love. Which further confuses the meaning of love [which should not be so easily induced]} So then really what does love mean? Who knows, Oh by the way I just adopted a baby orangutan, LOL

As always my thoughts and words came as I was writing, so don't hold me to any of this (Aphion Moore (my EX) if you are reading this, I have always loved you.)


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Interesting, but I would say that you've underated true love/love for spouses. But then I also wonder whether you can actually rate different types of love as to which is most important. The love for our children is completely different to true love, but it can be just as powerful, as can be the love for our friends, which again is different. It seems to me that there are so many types of love, all of them powerful, all of them painful if unreciprocated, so they can't really be put in an order.

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my point exactly Oliphaunt,

there are many kinds of love.

yes I did forget to put friends in there, probably would have rated them with siblings. (again I must say that rating them is purely subjective) I think my main point and reason for posting this thread is that the definition of the word love is not so easy to capture or cubbyhole (lol to my friend SWT)

PS I have always believed (probably comes from my reading of olden fairy tales) that love is the most powerful and important of words (emotions) that exist. (certainly a very romantic notion that I picked up reading Andrew Lang's Fairy Tales which made me foolishly believe that no harm comes to those of good heart)
I would still recommend them for your children as they will instill the idealistic notion that good things come to good people. a great notion for young people which hopefully they will experience the rest of their lives.


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Interesting, but I would say that you've underated true love/love for spouses. But then I also wonder whether you can actually rate different types of love as to which is most important. The love for our children is completely different to true love, but it can be just as powerful, as can be the love for our friends, which again is different. It seems to me that there are so many types of love, all of them powerful, all of them painful i unreciprocated , so they can't really be put in an order.


Nice word!

I agree. Love is different for everyone, therefore no one person can define it's true meaning. Personally, I think love is what you make it out to be, not something defined by others.

(We're doing something about different kinds of love in Romeo and Juliet for our English coursework, so it's funny it was brought up!)


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post #5  quote:

It's a good idea to instill in people, that good things happen to good people. Hopefully it inpires them to do good things. And yes, love is one of the most powerful emotions. I think a lot of people only realise that when they've felt it, in whatever form, although I expect reading fairy tales helps a lot!

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Fairy Tales are the cure for everything.

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"true love" is retarded. and boring.

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"Love means never having to say you're sorry" ......... *runs off to cry*

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The love a parent has for a child is unconditional. There is no stronger love. Ask any of us mommies.

Love for a spouse is also very powerful, at least it is for me. My husband is my best friend, partner, my everything. He really makes me strive to be the best me possible.


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love always has a soundtrack. so this thread needs one. one appropriate for asking "what is love?"

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Fuscia said "Love for a spouse is also very powerful, at least it is for me. My husband is my best friend, partner, my everything. He really makes me strive to be the best me possible."

Your are very lucky Fuscia, spousal love is probably the hardest love to classify because it is different to all of us as opposed to the unconditional loves which easily said is our favorite type of love.

This all goes to my point in posting this thread, that love is not so easily defined. As the Supreme court said (when trying to define a word that couldn't be easily defined) " you Know it when you see it."(or hopefully when you feel it).

Love Ben,


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OMG Larke I found your music stash

I'm glad they have Prodigy... too bad it sounds horrible


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yeah, chodder and metallica just doesn't have the same bite either.

but anyway, i've always liked a quote from the matrix about love. love is just a word. what's important is what the word implies.

for me it's just as simple as that. once you quantify it, it loses something.


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gaboman said this in post #8 :
"Love means never having to say you're sorry" ......... *runs off to cry*


Dude, that was freakin' comedy.

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I thought love was just a second hand emotion. I mean, what's love got to do with it?

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quote:
HECK said this in post #15 :
I thought love was just a second hand emotion. I mean, what's love got to do with it?

-HECK!
to quote your favorite star wars character "that smells stinkawith"


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There will be no Jar-Jar talk. We must pretend he doesn't exist. That's the only way to stop the rage.

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i know, i know. i can't believe i sold out like that just to make a really bad joke. i feel so dirty and defiled.

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Let's just try and get past it.

One day at a time.

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I've stumbled across an original directors cut edition of Star Wars. This is what I found:



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ROFL. OMG chodder that is one of the greatest things i've ever seen. that pic is some serious competition to the "kfc architect".

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What is luuuuuuuv anyway?
Does anybody love anybody anyway? -- HJ

Benyamin said:
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the word love is not so easy to capture or cubbyhole (lol to my friend SWT)


Cubbyhole this and add to it as you feel the vibe....

1) Agape -- Divine love, unconditional, God's love for us. Our unconditional love in this manner for others.

2) Philos -- Love for your fellow man....brotherly love.

3) Eros -- Takes a wild guess, romantic, sensual love.

4) Familial love -- Parent's love for children, vice versa, relative love.


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That's what I was going to get at, SWTT. Other languages offer more words for love than English does, which allows for a better understanding of the fact that there are different types and levels of love. And, of course, there will be some people who don't experience some forms of love...

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