You know, Grant, now that I think about it, maybe only us gay couples are doing it right... since we're not related (because we're not allowed to be). So, all you hetero's... you're having incestual sex!
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Lawless said this in post #61 : You know, Grant, now that I think about it, maybe only us gay couples are doing it right... since we're not related (because we're not allowed to be). So, all you hetero's... you're having incestual sex!
I am curious why gay couples would not be "allowed" to be such if they were related... procreation isn't possible.
I think that, apart from the whole gag-reflex, stomach-turning, feeling of complete disgust thing, the real argument against incest was that offspring many times would have birth defect, (ie mental retardation, health problems, etc.) No one has even mentioned that reason.
I heard Dr. Phil say that the danger of birth defects from procreation with a close relative is greatly exaggerated. He was doing a show on first cousins having relationships when he said that. I would guess that sex between siblings would have a greater degree of danger. I would also think that Dr. Phil would have it right. It's still pretty deviant.
well... siblings, cousins, or DISTANT cousins... My family is full of good-looking, alike-thinking, affluent peope and I am still trying to understand how ANYONE could be attracted to someone in their very own gene-pool! The whole thought of it makes me want to HURL.
Thanks for allowing me to voice my views... I'm done.
Danyelle said this in post #1 : [COLOR=darkred]If you look in your Bibles at genesis. God made only Adam&Eve... They had only Cane and Abel.. What does that mean? They had to have sex with each other in order to reproduce.. COLOR] arial
WRONG! if you didnt know, some of the bible has been removed and replaced and so on over the centuries. To my knowledge, they also had two girls. I believe Abel/Cane-cant remember which-got married to one of the sisters which caused family problems etc.....oh well i cant remember the whole thing but hey!
There is one school of thought that says that even though Adam and Eve were the first, other people were created in other parts of the world. I think this might be believed by people who don't want to believe that there was any sexual union between the offsprings of Adam and Eve. This is what they say to answer that question. Don't know if any evidence exists to support that claim, but it seems pretty logical to me. Even God might have a hard time populating the world from just two people.
What's scary is now a days you can be seepling with a relative and not even know it.
I had this thought recently. All to ofetn you have cases where someone dont know who the father of their child is. You see it on Maury all the time. This reminds me of one particular section of the town I live in. In my younger days I had a few friends that lived there. Let me tell you everyone slept with everyone (I'm not included in that). And it just made me think I wonder how long these people have lived here or will live here. They are all sleeping around. Who knows whos having whos baby. So if they all stay, the kids grow up and they sleep around, they could sleeping with a half brother or sister.
And then there's adoption. I know the chances are slim, but records are sealed, and sometimes, people don't even know they are adopted, but I know if I ever found out I was, that would be one thing that would make me a little parinoid.
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Danyelle said this in post #1 : If you look in your Bibles at genesis. God made only Adam&Eve... They had only Cane and Abel.. What does that mean? They had to have sex with each other in order to reproduce.. Everything that happened in the Bible was right back then and there was nothing wrong with it?? How do you know it's wrong??? You really don't! back in those days having sex with family members was the only way to reproduce. Well whose to say it's wrong? Show me that in the bible! back in the bible days some men had many many wives.. Does this mean that having mutliple wives is wrong? or does it mean we just feel like it's nasty? I don't understand if it's wrong, right, or just insane! Can someone help me on this?? arial
If you believe Genesis, then after the Flood, there were not that many people around. Abraham and crew live shortly after the flood, when the human population was very very low.
If you read of the war with Sodom and Gomorrah, against the other king, whom Abraham attacked and prevailed, the numbers of the peeps involved were not very high. It's like a few hundreds.
More like a skirmish.
It's like there was a nuclear war, and no one was around. The population has to reproduce.
Later, after the human race is safe from extinction, the law states that incest is wrong. This is highlighted in Leviticus, around the time of Moses. Most likely, the law given in Leviticus was only a "reminder" of laws already in place.
The gist of it is, barring extenuating circumstances, like the population if down to almost zero, which is what these people had to deal with (if you have faith in the storyline) it's wrong to have sex with a close relative.
And this might be totally BOGUS, you never know. But some sects of Jewish tradition say that there were "pre man" things still in existence after the creation.
Now, this gets complicated, and predates the theory of evolution, but the story goes that ancient Jewish Scholars interpreted from the original Hebrew text that Adam was the first "human" with a "soul", but not the first human like creature. They surmised that Adam had pre-man compatriots that looked like him, that were him, but that were without a soul. The Jewish sects thought that Adam's offspring procreated with these "preman" and after the "union" the offspring became beings with a soul.
It is interesting that these pre evolution sects thought that the existence of only two people to populate the Earth was suspect, and had an alternate view as to how it all happened.
However, with a God that has created the Universe, all things all possible, and if Adam and Eve were the only two in existence, then it's not that big of a leap to say that they were so superior in how they were created that for them and their immediate offspring to procreate without Genetic problems with relatives was scientifically possible.