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May have been discussed before... post #1  quote:



I've had an idea for some time now. I mentioned it in another post but want to get it out here. My perception of what something is may be entirely different to what yours is. We're taught that an apple is red. But, say if one of us has a different perception of color. Red is only a word. Where you see 'red' my perception of that same apple might be what you think is blue, only because I was taught that THAT color was red. Anyone get what I mean?

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Oh...I get what you mean...I have tried to get in to this type of discussion before. (not here, I mean, in-person)
I find that most people don't care to discuss. But I'd love to, so...



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yeah, i've tried to talk about that with people. most of the time i spend so much time trying to explain what i'm trying to say that by the time they get it (if at all) they aren't much for talking about it.

but i get what you're saying and it is really an interesting topic.



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Well, I also have come across same problem. People tend to ignore the disscusion relatated to reality or things related to perception of things around us. Only on this forum people are discussing it , to some extent.


"If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."

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Oh, bobob you're a genius - I've always wanted to discuss this with other people, but phrasing the concept proved far too difficult for me, but you've got it in a nutshell.

Suppose it were true, I like to think that the persons perceptions of colour would be defined by their eye colour.

I commend you bobob.



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Its an old concept, but rather redundant in that in the end we all have our own perception of reality, what we percieve individually makes not a difference to others though since that is not their perception.
If I see a telephone as a purple monster waving its arms about, that doesnt matter because I have always seen it, in my reality I can pick up the monsters hand and put it to my ear and it will respond in a way in which I have learned is acceptable and I can interact with others in such a fashion.
More seriously, the similar structure of our brains and eyes/rods/cones coupled with the constant medium of light and space within this universe means we all have the same types of structures to deal with interaction with the environment around us.
Further, in the end science is based on our perception, so even if our perception is flawed, it is universally flawed and all our readings are based off this, but all our abilities to apply science into technology or machines to manipulate our universe work within these boundaries as well so it doesnt particularly matter again.
In the end, we learn more, and we can manipulate the universe more and so long as our perceptions all lead to equivilant outcomes, there is no real measurable way to define how different what one person percieves is to another (that is ignoring the structures that allow us to perceive the universe being pretty much the same person to person i.e eyes and brain). Eye colour has nothing to do with colour perception.


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Yes thankyou 'doc_uk' for that post of long words and structured responses. I'm aware that eye colour has nothing to do with the visual intake of our surroundings.
I was just meaning to imply that it would be interesting if eye colour determined the way we interpret colour.

It's my guess that if it did, an entirely new level of racism would arise.



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I was responding to the concept of varied perception in the original post of this thread and unfortunately, I cant read minds, if someone states something, I assume they mean it, besides the post still has merit in using that as an example.
Perhaps you'd have prefered short words and unstructured gibberish.


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Doc, I didn't mean to incinuate that your post post was irrelevant. But mind reading isn't really necessary to interpret my post, particularly the line "Suppose it were true, I LIKE to think that the persons perceptions of colour would be defined by their eye colour".
Note the word 'Suppose' - my post, and the whole concept of the thread are strictly a hypothetical sense.
Rather than dismissing my post with the curt sentence "Eye colour has nothing to do with colour perception", why not contemplate what it would be like if it were true? We are, after all, in a forum.

It's remarkable how simular gibberish and long words can be, sometimes.



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