(CNN) -- Osama bin Laden recounts with delight the September 11 terrorist attacks against the United States as he talks with associates on a videotape released Thursday by the Bush administration.
Reveling in the details of the fatal attacks, bin Laden brags in Arabic that he knew about them beforehand and says the destruction went beyond his hopes. He says the attacks "benefited Islam greatly."
Bin Laden -- branded by U.S. authorities as the mastermind behind the attacks -- indicates during the recording that he knew for several days that September 11 would be the date of the attacks.
"I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only," he said, according to a U.S. government translation. "This is all that we had hoped for."
Yes, thank you, Whidden, for this portion of the official rendering of the WAG the DOG 9-11 production.
Yes, I do hope the US Arabic version seen here really says these things too...but I am sure with the lack of CIA Arabic speaking resources...it must have been difficult finding someone who could pull it off as well as they did.
The story was reported by CNN, not exactly the best friend of the Bush Administration. The story is from december of 2001.
Plenty of time for CNN to confirm or deny the arabic in the tape. If CNN is in on this whole conspiracy too, we should all just give up and watch Fox News. I know they will tell me the truth.
Oh, so 6 months of flight school would not have made the grade?
Hmmmm....interesting....because what we hear on our "telly' is that these "mercenaries" learned how to fly in 6 months. Wow, they must be a quick study.
Actually you are wrong it was terrorist's flying the planes. I am taking about Fruits accusation that ex US military planted bombs in the building, thats two totally diffrent groups of people. Like I said vertically dropping a tower takes a lot of skill and time so no 6 months of flight school would not do it.
The building fell because of the design and not anyone knowing how to topple it. Nobody expected the structural failure that was to come, not OBL, not even the architect.
"Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless." ~Ayatollah Khomeini
Well when the first tower fell most people would have expected the second to fall, I mean if a plane hits tower one and it collapses then it does not take a genius to guess what's going to happend to tower 2 which has just taken the same hit.
lodgebo said this in post #52 : Well when the first tower fell most people would have expected the second to fall, I mean if a plane hits tower one and it collapses then it does not take a genius to guess what's going to happend to tower 2 which has just taken the same hit.
What about Tower 3 ? the, coincidentally, CIA building (WTC7)
Larry Silversteins insurers are arguing about payment, i dont think they are questioning the official version of events but maybe their investigations will turn up something. After all, they wont want to pay out if they can help it.
Actually you are wrong it was terrorist's flying the planes. I am taking about Fruits accusation that ex US military planted bombs in the building, thats two totally diffrent groups of people. Like I said vertically dropping a tower takes a lot of skill and time so no 6 months of flight school would not do it.
Oh, lbo, keep typing, buddy, you make my case every time you type in a word.
lodgebo said this in post #52 : Well when the first tower fell most people would have expected the second to fall, I mean if a plane hits tower one and it collapses then it does not take a genius to guess what's going to happend to tower 2 which has just taken the same hit.
A 'guess?' Shoot, shucky darn. Osama planned the thing and he had no clue of the outcome??...BAHAHAHA!!!
Why even bother you have no intention of even considering any other possible actions. when you open your mind I might try until thenI have no intention on wasting my time with you.
Sorry, if by my words I have in any way made you feel that I am not considering any other possible actions on 9-11 and that I do not have an open mind to what you are saying...IN FACT, QUITE THE OPPOSITE.
You are pointing out some misconceptions that many people are overlooking and basing their opinions on the very twisted and confused language regarding 9-11..
And if anyone is close minded and not considering any other possible actions may have occurred on 9-11...you can point to the ones who have bought the government and media line on this from the beginning...those who bought the book "The 9-11 Commission Report" either literally or figuratively...and have moved on...not wondering, if as you are pointing out, as well as fruit and I, that all does not add up.
Again, I find myself guilty of giving conclusions ... going from A-Z without enumerating points B to Z.
Again, sorry, if you think I was mocking you...not my intention.
Look at these items:
1) You state that whoever pulled off 9-11 must have had great skill to have pulled it off....
Whereas, in America, we are told that these perpetrators learned their "skills" during a 6 month flying course in Florida.
Six months?
Even if they were skilled pilots before 9-11, and they wanted to learn American aircraft...the question remains...were these people skilled pilots before 9-11. The verbage given to us by the media and the government is far different than what you suppose. (At least that "information" given out until now..perhaps this "information" will change if the 'powers that be' see the error of their verbage)
And quite frankly, did Al Q'aida recruit trained pilots for this, I mean, if they were trained pilots..how much different are the planes in the US than a trained pilot flying a 747, or whatever, in the Middle East or Europe???
2) You bring up a good point about folks and the "guessing game."
Whidden, brought out the fact that there was a video showing someone looking alot like the OBL we know saying that the destruction "went beyond his hopes."
Now, be honest, if your entire intention was to bring down the twin towers...wouldn't those who wanted to do such a thing have learned from the 90's bombings? And wouldn't those perpetraitors wanted to have put their "best foot forward" to make it so? Would anyone intentioning for this to happen, have said, that the dirty business went beyond their expectations...if in fact their goal was to bring down the Twin Towers?
All this verbage above and the verbage that the government and media have fed us point to one thing:
Doublespeak is alive and well in the 21st century.
And I don't know if OBL and Al Q'aida are masters of the puppetry and doublespeak...
but, I do know for one thing...the Western World, North America and Europe are not only the Masters of Doublespeak, they are the kings and queens of Doublespeak...
So, really who brought these twin towers down, anyway...??
perhaps, we can have an open mind to at least open up the discussion at that very point without jumping to the conclusions that are put forth by those who buy into an "open and shut case."
Apology accepted although I may have been oversensitive.
I have read your reply and took in what you have said however it appears on point 1 we have got out wires crossed.
When I refereed to people with great skill I was not referring to the pilots of the planes. I think it was fruit who was talking about mercenaries using explosives to create an implosion and vertical drop, that would take great skill something that even the highest trained demolition experts in the military do not have. So that's what I meant when i mentioned great skill.
However to answer the points you posed about the pilots, personally I think they may have had some flying experience and the course in Florida was nothing more than a revision course for these guys.
As for waht OBl said I don't think he meant the towers falling when he mentione better than expected. 3000 dead, US in a complete state of terror and disarray, Planes grounded across the world, global markets suspended and various Islamic groups and countires joining him in the Jihad he has declared on the USA, I think thats what he meant when he said better than expected. OBL was not stupid and he knew that the towers would fall if you smashed planes full of fuel in to them it wsas all that followed that was the bonus.
Still, somebody had to translate the damn thing. 
03-19-2006 11:06 PM
