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post #91  quote:

I understand that rabbit trails can be fun to chase, but can we try to keep it on topic here?

if you wish to continue this line of discussion, you could quite easily make a thread for it.



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My humble opinion on Cruise expressing his beliefs.

Cruise is not like everyone else. A man on the street can talk all about the stuff Cruise says and no one will listen to that man twice. However, Cruise is not a man on the street. He is a superstar, a celebrity, with millions of fans (and millions of un-fans as well) who listen to what he says. As such, he excercises a lot of influence on society, as do other powerful celebrities, politicians, industrialists etc. Therefore him and his peers also have a huge responsibility to be careful regarding what they say. Even though they may have as much right to shoot off their mouths without thinking twice, their right is restricted because of their power and status.

To make controversial and, I would venture to say, irresponsible statements regarding psychiatry, medicinal drugs etc. is very immature on Cruise's part.

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but I disagree that anyone who has a brain is qualified to make such statements. Qualified is "having the appropriate qualifications for an office, position, or task." Last time I looked, Tom Cruise was far from being qualified to talk about the correct manner to treat postpartum depression.


Semantics, but I'm the one that got it going with my reply to your post, so I take the blame...

I was seeing the qualification as regarding the ability to make a statement, which was my fault too...

I was more saying that we can't fault someone for making a statement, whether they are educated enough on the subject to make a statement or not. We CAN say that they are dummies for eating their own foot, but we can't say that they don't have the right (some might say they 'aren't qualified', you get what I'm saying...) to make the statement. If it's their own opinion, and they clarify that to be what they are speaking, or it's obvious that all they COULD be expressing is their own opinion, then I'd leave it and say that they are exercising their right to express their opinion in a normal way.

I do see where you're coming from though, and it does make sense. In anycase, I'm upset with the ending. But the more I think of it, the more I realize that if they change the ending, then they end up remaking Independence Day. So, even though to me the ending was crap, seeing as I can't think of anything that hasn't already been done that would make more sense, I'll leave it and accept it... Until I DO think of something better...

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In anycase, I'm upset with the ending. But the more I think of it, the more I realize that if they change the ending, then they end up remaking Independence Day. So, even though to me the ending was crap, seeing as I can't think of anything that hasn't already been done that would make more sense, I'll leave it and accept it... Until I DO think of something better...


I didnt mind so much the outcome of what happened...but I thought with the creative ability that Spielberg has, that he would go just a little bit further with the whole alien thing.

I would have liked to have seen them dying instead of watching them kill people in one scene, and in the next, they were dead.

I realize that in the book it went that way...but I feel that I was walking away cheated from a scene that he could have very well added.

Not to mention that when Cruise's character walked away from his son, the kid didnt have time to get away, and the whole place was blown to bits, and in the end he was at home with his mom. No saying HOW he got there, and no saying why he didnt look at all like he was even in such an explosion.

Did the book end that way as well?

The movie was only 1 hr 59 minutes long...and it was the same scenes over and over again...he should have given more, and made it a little longer. Unless, of course, that he wasnt allowed too, and that I dont know.

IMO.



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The book did not have a family as the central characters, only a man. Also, the book gives more detail regarding how they died, and if I remember correctly, even how they reproduced (asexually). The movie could have been betterif the explanation of their deaths had not been rushed. However, it would have been difficult to incorporate it with Cruise's role, so I understand why it was given as a narrative.

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This is an odd statement to make Sayzak. You make it sound as if because he is a successful actor that he MUST know what he is talking about with postpartum depression. That statement isnt even logical.

If he said he was pretty sure that he could do an anal exam, would you allow him to do so just because he is a successful actor? See...its not even logical to think that he is qualified to make such a statement, or for that mattter to think that someone would allow him to do it just because he can act on screen.

I have always hated Tom Cruise (Fuscia knows this because Ive been saying it for years)...so Im not in the category of those you say hate him now just to hate him because they are jealous...

But maybe, just maybe he knows what he is talking about??????

Being a MALE actor doesnt make him anywhere near knowledgeable about being a FEMALE!

So, you think he is a good actor...fine, to each their own...but until this guy wears a bra, grows a uterus, and gives birth...he has no clue what he is talking about!

Being an actor doesnt qualify him as a doctor. Women have gone through postpartum depression for years and years and years, and all the damn vitamins in the world isnt gonna cure women from going through that!

C'mon Sayzak...dont even go there. As a guy, I guess I wouldnt expect you to understand either.


I'm primarily defending that he's not "crazy". And no, I'm not so naeve to believe anything he says (I'm laughing as I type this) just because he can act. I'm just saying people should jump on the "let's make fun of tom cruise" bandwagon because it's all of a sudden socially accepted to do so. Have a conversation with him before you judge.



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We saw it last weekend.... it completely ROCKED!!!


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