lodgebo said this in post #14 : The only reason that companies outsource is because it is cheaper to do it. You can all have the domestic workforce making products but would you be willing to pay the extra for it? People want cheap products and a homegrown workforce but you can't have both it's either or, right now the ones that want it cheap have spoken.
The only reason that firms got boycotted in Europe was down to call centers being moved to India ( guess why they went there) and people had trouble with the accents.
It is not just America in fact the country/region that invests the most FDI is Hong Kong, Japan, Korea,Germany then the US with UK France etc coming in later.
and it is not just China and India that is seeing this outsourcing/FDI Korea, Vietnam, Thailand and Eastern European countries are all seeing this massive influx of money the governments love it because it supplies jobs, training, infrastructure etc. If it's any consolation it shifts every few decades in the 60 and 70s S. Africa and L. America saw this outsourcing and in the 1990s - 200o it was the US that was the main recipient.
!5,000 AMERICANS WERE LAID OFF AT HEWLETT pACKARD
oUR aIR LINES ARE GOING BANQRUPT, bANKS ARE FOLDING
tHE FOREIGN SYNDROME IS TAKING OVER OUR oIL.
wE ARE NOT GOING TO SIT AROUND HERE AND WAIT FOR A CYCLE TO CHANGE lOVE, We were built on Independence we will fight for our independece if it comes to that.
Listen up darlin, you live in Scotland so what happens here effects you little.
aka deltacent aka deltater
Life may not be the party I had hoped for.......
But while I'm here I might just as well listen to the music and dance..
I have no loyalty toward or desire to work for corporate America/and the furriners
ever again. Not as a janitor, an executive, or a pea pod shooter.
And there are many of us.
And we are intelligent people and hard working people.
And we are not going to take this one up the ass without ramifications.
And I am not talking about violence here, like I said, we are intelligent and law abiding people.
And if it takes walking into a fancy restaurant where these zillionaires frequent, bumping into their tables, knocking their Tostada au Poulet onto the floor and shoving their expensive French cuisine into a paper bag so be it.
T, I find it so hard to have Americans not understand whats happening right under their noses. Reminds me of Sodom and you know what had to happen then. The longer I live and see what is happening to us Americans the angrier I become. We are like Sheep. Sorry, economy logic sticks in my throat
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aka deltacent aka deltater
Life may not be the party I had hoped for.......
But while I'm here I might just as well listen to the music and dance..
“If you want to know what a collapse of a civilization looks like, you are in one.” -- Robert Bork
and the Senate didn't have the balls to confirm him for the Supreme Court in 1987.
He wrote a book called Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline.
There are a few like you and me who can see what's happening, but then there many more others in the world and on this forum who cannot.
People better wake up and smell the one coffee bean we all may have left per person....while the fat cats sit behind their walls collecting money like stamps and mistresses.
But you know as I know, this was ALLLLL prophesied ahead of time, chickie.
And true sheep know the true shepherd.
In days of famine I WILL be satisfied. Psalm 37.
In fact the entire Psalm 37 speaks of this very time. Check it out. Gives me peace.
Delta said this in post #16 : Listen up darlin, you live in Scotland so what happens here effects you little.
D...
lodgebo made an excellent point when he said:
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The only reason that companies outsource is because it is cheaper to do it. You can all have the domestic workforce making products but would you be willing to pay the extra for it? People want cheap products and a homegrown workforce but you can't have both it's either or, right now the ones that want it cheap have spoken.
Just because it doesnt affect him in this country doesnt mean he isnt being logical in his statement...its true...you cant deny that.
Are the people of this country, as a whole, willing to pay extra if, they decide to really boycott these companies? Are you?
Because essentially we are talking about paying much more...not just a little more.
Of course thats just my opinion....I could be wrong. (Dennis Miller)
"You might be the toughest little whacker. . .but in my world, you're about as worrisome as a cloudy day." (Dutch Dooley)
Delta you are missing the point I was not just talking about US comapnies but the western world as a whole. This is happening in every developed country where consumers like you and me demand our goods at a cheap price.
And this does happen in Scotland so don't treat me like I am entering this discussion blind.
lodgebo said this in post #23 : Delta you are missing the point I was not just talking about US comapnies but the western world as a whole. This is happening in every developed country where consumers like you and me demand our goods at a cheap price.
And this does happen in Scotland so don't treat me like I am entering this discussion blind.
Sorry L I was a bit uppity. YOUr opinion is always welcome you know that.
I am trying to say we all should be will.ing to forego some things to make the situation in the economy better.
It might mean buying a smaller car say a Hybrid.
Watching labels and sticking to American Made items.
lodgebo said this in post #23 : Delta you are missing the point I was not just talking about US comapnies but the western world as a whole. This is happening in every developed country where consumers like you and me demand our goods at a cheap price.
And this does happen in Scotland so don't treat me like I am entering this discussion blind.
I didnt realize that you were affected by this as well. I knew some countries were dealing with this...but I didnt realize how big of an issue this was throughout the world.
So...what do you think lodgebo? Would you be willing to pay higher prices or would you rather pay lower? Which one do you think would inevitably be a better way?
Of course thats just my opinion....I could be wrong. (Dennis Miller)
"You might be the toughest little whacker. . .but in my world, you're about as worrisome as a cloudy day." (Dutch Dooley)
I pretty much have to make a huge decision every week whether to go to Walmart and buy crap cheaper, or the local grocers and pay a little more.
The essentials we really need may be a little cheeper at Walmart, but if I don't have an income, because my company just did a lay off because of a merger with a foreign company....who the frick cares because I cannot afford jack shiiit at that point anyway?
So, when I was rollling in the dough, and even when I wasn't I still chose to shop at Whole Foods or Wild Oats because of the health food regimen.
I paid literally 2 dollars more on practically everything, but I knew I wasn't eating crap that would give me a mustache and breast pains with all the hormones and such.
But if it does get to the point that I have to sell my house, move in with one of my friends, whatever....I will be making choices that will reflect my disgust with globalization.
Perhaps moving somewhere and living communally with my buddies, and growing our own food. Whatever it takes.
These companies and their stockholders may think they are doing a good thing for themselves....but when people start to wise up and realize that a market economy is just that....you can buy and sell with only those you choose to do so, they could lose more money than they have gained in closing American factories and opening them elsewhere.
And if you live communally and rurally like many of us can here.....barter becomes an issue. My skills for some food.
Because it's not looking good for the future and I don't mean to be an alarmist....but I am just looking at the trends and reading the books and experiencing this crap first hand.
So...what do you think lodgebo? Would you be willing to pay higher prices or would you rather pay lower? Which one do you think would inevitably be a better way?
Well being a mean tight fisted Scotsman I will obvioulsy go for the cheaper option.
Wether or not people are willing to pay for chepaer or more expensive goods is becoming irrelevant globalistaion, FDI etc is here to stay. FDI is now more popular than ever and franchising has been growing for years.
Finding a better way is difficult, but there are advantages and disadvantges in both.
07-23-2005 02:22 AM
