In answer to the questions of Amy's marital status: she's divorced. She cheated on her husband (who is a terrific person). Though she comes across very well on the show, she is lacking in character. I have met her several times and she is really b****y to any woman that she thinks is getting more attention than she is. She has to be the center of attention at all times! She is a snob and can be very mean.
From what I see on the show, I would be rooting for her too, but if you ever knew her you would not admire her. She is a liar, a cheat, a shameless flirt and has no sense of morality.
Well, you predicted it. Are you from Mark Burnett staff perhaps?
Jealousy is perceived differently by different people. Thought I look up some interesting views from three great minds of the past and post it here.
Me Jealous of The Dirty Blonde Alliance? Nah. Amy can have all the fun in the world, find her dream job and hope she can make another million.... this time to keep it, instead of her elusive dot.com stock options. You go girl!
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Erica Jong said: "Jealousy is all the fun you think they had."
John Quincy Adams said on jealousy: "His duties to his neighbor were under no stronger guarantee than the laws of the land and his opinions of the world. The tendency of this condition upon a mind of great compass... is to produce insincerity and duplicity, which were his besetting sins through life."
James Parton on jealousy: "A gentleman.... who could calculate an eclipse, survey an estate, tie an artery, plan edifice, try a cause, break a horse, dance a minuet, and play the violin."
* Source: Webster's NewWorld Dictionary of Quotable Definitions, Prentice-Hall Inc. page 292
Honestly, I don't understand the need to relentlessly trash Amy Henry's character based on TWO posters who both acknowledge THEIR information is SECONDHAND!
Posts that were SOLICITED, no less!
But I guess that's the point of character assassination...not to be fair or objective.
Let's see... isn't Kwame divorced? And didn't he actually brag about being a *skirt chaser*?
I'm inclined to believe *infidelity* and *carousing* are MUCH more likely a part of Kwame's character make-up than of Amy's.
As a matter of fact, NOTHING Amy has said or done would lead me to believe she deserves the accusations and innuendo being thrown about.
Can you say "double standard"?
How about "hypocrisy"?
On another point, I only heard TWO of the four interviewers criticize her. So what?
And whether or not Amy should have taken "ownership" of the car rental idea is to me... well, nitpicking. Did anyone else "own up" to not having a BETTER idea? Or ANY idea for that matter?
That was an unfair position to be put into to begin with.(But that's another issue)
Finally, I don't see the harm at all in Itdtoo25, the 13 yr. old girl, chosing Amy Henry as A role model. Certainly not her ONLY role model, but in a setting that encourages gamesmanship, (i.e. backstabbing, subterfuge,scheming) Amy played it pretty straight, I think. For a 13 yr. old girl to aspire to be like an Amy Henry, vs. say, a Britany Spears is a positive. She shouldn't be discouraged.
What is discouraging, is the fact this young girl innocently comes to a forum, clicks on a thread , only to see *Adults* gleefully attacking her role model with unfounded innuendo, rumors, and allegations; basically "Omarosa-izing" someone they themselves don't really "know" because, well, it's FUN.
From what I've observed, most people who have been exposed to Amy Henry, like her and want to work with her.
At the end of the final show, while the credits were rolling, and the Apprentice contestants were mingling, I noticed that Amy briefly approached Donald Trump, who mouthed the words "call me".
Well, here we see the difference between Amy fans and sycophants. “Everybody likes her and wants to be like her,” apparently. Which may be true, except for the transparent personality revealed as the show progressed. Like others on this thread, I was (and am) an Amy fan overall on the business side, just not an Amy apologist.
Let’s be clear – if the show’s editing is accurate, NONE of the interviewers liked Amy. That doesn’t mean she sucks, but honestly, how many 20- and 30-somethings are fit to run companies? She wasn't a good fit, yet. And as for Kwame, I couldn’t agree more on hiz womanizing, and his stock went down considerably in my view. Here’s the difference – careful, now – Kwame is forthcoming (re: honest) about it. So maybe the Virgin Amy is being treated roughly if the rumors are false. So what? It’s a message board, and a relatively civil one at that, and there is some circumstantial evidence here.
People should no more believe the “friends” in here than the "second-hand knowledge" of the haters, but I guess we need to take all with a grain of salt. But honestly, aren’t you defenders of her “personality” fooling yourselves? Sure, Trump said ‘call me,’ - no one said she looked bad in a skirt. Think, people, think.
No, the only difference we see here... is there are those who express their opinions, and others who accuse and/or insult others they don’t agree with. Or maybe just for the fun of it. Sycophant? Excellent! Right of the bat try to discredit with groundless insults. That way you need not make much of a case for yourself.
Even if someone DOES have a *transparent personality*... it does not mean they are a s1ut. Well, at least not where I come from.
If someone flirts... it does not mean they are a s1ut.
Not one piece of circumstantial evidence. Just rumors, innuendo, unsubstantiated allegations.
I resent that being called an Amy apologist. That’s just stupid. For one thing I’m not even an Amy fan. For another, there is nothing to apologize for. I don’t need to APOLOGIZE for anyone, because there was no justification whatsoever for some of the allegations to begin with.
I have no problem debating on the issues or opinions as to whether or not someone acted ethically or competently. But the methodical hatchet job done on this thread. (By a very select few) leaves me more than a little disgusted.
From your last post DirtyD, it’s clear you want a forum to freely express your own opinions and be free to insult. It’s also clear you don’t care too much for the opinions of others if they happen to differ from yours.
I’m glad you “think” the editing on the Apprentice was an “accurate depiction” of people and events portrayed. I have some land in Florida you might be interested in.
You said < Sure, Trump said ‘call me,’ - no one said she looked bad in a skirt.>.
I’m impressed you can read Donald Trump’s mind. But I think that statement more likely reflects what goes on inside your own.
everaftergirl. Sometimes I overlook and forget an interesting post. You seem to have raised some interesting points.
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everaftergirl said this in post #135
It was clear that Amy was one of the very best, because of her track record, and she definitely should have been included as a finalist against Bill...however, she was quickly eliminated by Mr. Trump's management. I do believe Amy was deliberately eliminated by the staff, because they did not want a woman to be hired. Don't laugh, read on.
I was rooting for Amy once she separated herself from the rest and it seemed clear that she had a good head on her shoulders and could softly handle the remaining strong personalities like Omarosa, Katrina and Heidi. As in normal life, there will always be these challenges and apparently Amy was the strongest amongst her competition. But then Amy had to now compete against the other gender to win on her own merits.
The reasons the staff gave for eliminating Amy were completely ridiculous...they said she would get on their nerves, that she irritated the hell out of one guy, and that she acted like a stepford wife. Those were lame and non-specific reasons to fire her... The older woman who chose Bill over Amy, sounded like she was jealous of Amy. The woman sarcastically commented on Amy's pretty white teeth, as if Amy was relying on her good looks instead of her brains, but that wasn't the case at all.
And from what episode #13 showed, Amy seemed unprepared for the interview while Norma with her inappropriate "teething comments" felt she was intimidated working with Amy, just my humble opinion. From that I sensed Trump wanted to know which of the four remaining Apprentice candidates the Fabulous Four didn't want to work inside his executive ranks. The compatibility factor is an important factor to seemless integration of work. As a result, as good as they have performed, Nick and Amy were eliminated for soft reasons.
With Amy out of the picture, Bill was a sure winner. A couple of episodes earlier, Trump himself had a difficult time choosing who to fire between Kwami and Troy. He even said it. So why did Kwami make the finals over Amy? Because Trump's staff didn't want a woman.
This is where we agree to disagree. I don't think Trump has any difficulty hiring women. If you look at his Trump organization, they're there from entry, mid-level and senior level executives. Absolutely NO voids to vouch for this. In fact, he did so hiring Carolyn on a whim without much open competition as published by own statements. Secondly, Trump has put Carolyn in all 14 episodes and advised him all along, to counter-balance the men executives' POVs, ie. George, Bernie and Mark. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump's staff throughout his organization, almost half are women workers. As in the above, Kwame survived the finals because the Fabulous Four recommendation to The Donald on the basis of "Who best can get along" in their office.
Amy was railroaded by Trump's staff...The sad part is, Trump relied too much on the final word of his staff, which was a mistake. Donald Trump fired Amy because of their recommendations. I say, "Mr. Trump, you were duped! Amy was one of your best contestants and you fired her!"
Amy was ONE of the best, in fact among the four out of 210,000. That's not too bad, but not good enough over Bill and Kwame in his opinion. And like anything else in the world, everyone has an opinion but HIS is final because Trump is spending his money and the boss is entitled to do as s/he pleases. Bossess are accountable for who they select and the performance results they bring back to the organization. I can't say that the CEO is duped, being involved all along. At that screening level, Trump did exactly as expected in normal business practices. What he didn't do was he duped himself without conducting a 360 feedback and outside stakeholders' survey on the #14 episode in making a more informed finalist decision on selecting the best leadership quality candidate.
I won't be watching the second season, because of what happened. It's like watching a contest that is rigged. It's pointless. Too bad, because I really liked the show until that point.
Well, I watch it mainly to analyze the factors going into The Apprentices' action and behaviors demonstrated in each episode. It's the drama that sustains the interest for which we critique here, the good, bad and the ugly aspects of the workplace activities. Of the 8 women candidates, even when Kristi Franks lost (whom I felt was the better of 8,) I wanted to continued watching to see how the others interact and play out to the end. Winning isn't everything; it's just part of he competition. 15 had to lose. Well, I thought 14 and Amy would win too. But that's life in the big city.
From what I see on the show, I would be rooting for her too, but if you ever knew her you would not admire her. She is a liar, a cheat, a shameless flirt and has no sense of morality. 
04-21-2004 04:44 PM
sunshine77.
Me Jealous of The Dirty Blonde Alliance? Nah. Amy can have all the fun in the world, find her dream job and hope she can make another million.... this time to keep it, instead of her elusive dot.com stock options. 
You go girl!
