The majority of french people opposed the war that the US started in Iraq. Their government, for whatever reason, did not support the US. The result: the democratic will of the people upheld.
The majority of British people opposed the war that the US started in Iraq. Their government sent their soldiers to war disregarding the wishes of its people. This is not democratic.
Your president speaks of Democracy in vague terms, just as he does Freedom.
Pakistan would if capable of democratically electing their leader, which they are presently unable to do, you would find no support from their government.
When Spain got the chance to democratically reverse the policies put in place vis a vis Iraq they did so.
How different the political landscape would look if ACTUAL democracy took place in regards US foreign policy and Iraq.
Whiden Tony B.liar won a third term despite the war not because the British people supported the war.
The reason B.liar won was twofold 1. there was at the time no real opposition and 2. the economic policies of his chancellor ( next PM maybe) were succesful.
Also the Liberial democrats who fought an anti war campaign had thier most succesful election ever.
The truth is that many many people in the UK strongly opposed and still do oppose this war.
"The majority of British people opposed the war that the US started in Iraq. Their government sent their soldiers to war disregarding the wishes of its people. This is not democratic."
But, they still kept him in office. Sure, maybe they felt smoked by the democratic process, that their wishes on the war were not acknowledged, but it doesn't seem like it was important enough to them to vote him out. Like you said, the economy was good, or the opposition wasn't up to speed, so they voted on those issues instead.
But Labour also lost a lot of votes and almost all lost votes were believed to be anti war votes, in certain areas Labour lost seats to the liberials who were as I said fighting on an anti war campiagn.
In an area of London - Bethnal green Geroge Galloway ( the guy that ran circles round your Senators) won a seat that Labour had never lost and he won that on an anti war message, of course he than mucked it all up by dressing as a giant cat on national TV.
A giant cat. The worst we ever had was Dukakis, a presidental candidate who got into a tank, and put on the Tank hat, and lost the election because he looked like a total doof.
What happend was that Galloway went on Celebrity Big Brother and one of the tasks was that he had to be a cat for an evening or day and he had to eat cat treats out of another contestants hand and purr and be scratched behind the ear's. It was one of these moments when you actually feel embaressed for the person.
Must say that Dukakis looks toatlly out of place still looks better than Galloway though.
Whidden said this in post #19 : My only point was Ireland was saying that
But, they still kept him in office. Sure, maybe they felt smoked by the democratic process, that their wishes on the war were not acknowledged, but it doesn't seem like it was important enough to them to vote him out. Like you said, the economy was good, or the opposition wasn't up to speed, so they voted on those issues instead.
The only real opposition to Labour were the Conservatives and they supported the war.
And the election was the:
- second lowest voter turnout since 1918.
- lowest ever vote share for a majority government
- lowest ever vote for Conservative and Labour combined
- biggest ever drop in votes for a Labour government.
- most LibDem MPs since 1923
mdmselaroux said this in post #1 : I must confess that I haven't been watching FOX News latley and I just wanted to know if the boycott of the French is over. Nobody has informed me if it has or hasn't ended and I don't think that is very fair to me. I need someone to tell me so I can start to plan my European Tour (a la the Gilded Age). Much Love!!
We are boycotting Fox to get that trash off the air before they start next war