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post #16  quote:

The question you gotta ask yourself, 'Were those 10 chords real?'. As I said, if Zion was itself another Matrix, what could have happened.

The machines may be real smart. They might be giving the humans a false sense of security just by creating a pseudo-Matrix within the Real Matrix.

Once the war is over, the humans feel they're free and stop thinking about anything else other than what colour would best suit the buildings of Zion or, how to become the next Versace of Zion.


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macbeth - understood but took into consideration, Neo did not realize that he was the one until Trinity (Holy Spirit) kissed him and revived him then he realized what he could do. And Jesus was in the tomb for three days. Here is another question what looked out of place in reloaded when the nebacanezer (can't spell) returned to Zion? And how much time when by when Neo was in the train station. Did the architect reboot the Matrix after Neo made his decision to save Trinity. Why was Bane cutting his hand before he tried to stab Neo?

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Why Bane is cutting himself... post #18  quote:

2eon!

I might have the answer to one of your questions...

Since Mr Smith is a program, he has never felt real pain the way that humans does. That's why he's cutting his hand - the feeling of pain is all new to him! As far as I can see, that's the simple truth.

Anyway, you'll have to excuse my English. I'm a swedish student and though I study both American and British English in high school, I tend to make a lot of mistakes now and then... I hope you understand what I'm trying to tell you though.

See ya!


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vinayvpai even if the machiens were a matrix anything that happens in the matrix happens to your real form so she still would have died from thouse 10 cords. 2eon he could have rebooted it without all of them dieing cause he said if you go back to the matrix you go back to the end of zion so he didnt reboot it or all of them would be dead and there problie wouldnt have been a 3rd movie unless it was a new begining

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klantetussen,

I guess that makes sense,

Macbeth,

The train station is when I believe that the matrix could have been reloaded, because neo was in neither world, the architech could have put everything back so it would end the way he wanted, he had to first see the decision that Neo was going to make.


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but they couldnt reboot it without destroying everyone like he said neo had to choose the people to be at the begining of it and it wouldnt die but if he went back that he would be going back to the end of zion. but still the archatech said this will be the 6th time we will destroy the matrix and we have become very good at it.

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Neo still alive post #22  quote:

This movie has many parrellels to the Bible... very many. I know the Bible well, and its undeniable. Neo is definately a representation of the Christ. Neo sacrificed himself, as did the Christ. But the Christ rose after dying. I think Neo might too. It would make sense... after all the oracle says she thinks she might see him again. I think Neo may come back, but trinity won't.

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post #23  quote:

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vinayvpai said this in post #15 :
Ok, what if Zion was just another Matrix? Wow, then Neo and Trin may not have died at all.

3 levels:
1) The Matrix that the Zionists see
2) The Real Matrix, Zion itself
3) The Real World, still controlled by the machines...

Hey, that could be infinite, may be a coupla more levels in the hierarchy


Vinay Matrix withn the matrix is a highly debatted topic here. so pls look in old threads and dont start it again here. Everyone will come after you.


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