"Zimbabwe will never be a colony again." (President Robert Mugabe)
27 years after historic (1st) march at Zimbabwe Grounds (1/27/80), 1 MILLION men and women gathered at Zimbabwe Grounds to express solidarity with their leader.
Zimbabwe is 4 months away from a historic election (again) and the contestants are the same, the people "versus the British proxies (puppets).
The March is not just TO BE A PROCESSION. It is about defending values of the revolution where thousands of lives were lost against the Rhodesian settler regime .
It SHOWS the world who Zimbabwe citizens would prefer to lead their country, which will expose any manipulation of elections.
"Zimbabweans have a right to all their resources down to the ants and reptiles." (President Mugagbe)
So 1 million march yet the population of the country is 12 million thats hardly a ringing endorsment is it, mind you murderous dictators have nevere been big anywhere. 1 million is an interesting number though thats exactly the same number of political opponents that have gone missing in the past few years.
Zimbabwe elction and contetstents thats good you are not allowed to contest an election in Zimbabwe you get beat and go to jail hell even if you were allowed to contest you are not allowed to win.
As for Zimbabwe never being a colony again well he's right about that who in thier right mind would want a colony that has hyper inflation, a starving population, that has destroyed farmland, that has no decent health care and where the people live in fear who wants to to get near that.
Doesn't matter anyway there won't be a Zimbabwe in 30 years if things saty the same which they will.
Actually 2 years ago MAlcolm said this:I will give true history of Zimbabwe . Had to do some research. Unable to spin and create stories like Logebo. and yet we are still waiting for it I really would like to see how you view this hiostry and maybe you could elaborate and tell us about the future of Zimbabwe, it's been near 2 years after all how much research do you need.
Malcolm you should read the letters from this website, this is what life is like for real people in Zimbabwe not Mugabe or his puppets seriously if you can read this and not be shocked or not question th regime then I don't know whats wrong with you:
I'm sorry Malcolm but even if I were totally anti-British, anti-Europe, anti-Commonwealth or anti-whatever I would be against Mugabe in the next election. Even if all the claims of corruption and criminal activites performed under his regieme aren't true there can be no denying the Magabe has made Zimbabwe the poorest country in the world.
As the Africa editor for The Economist for seven years, Robert Guest, says Mugabe is to blame for Zimbabwe's economic freefall. "In 1980, the average annual income in Zimbabwe was US$950, and a Zimbabwean dollar was worth more than an American one. By 2003, the average income was less than US$400, and the Zimbabwean economy was in freefall. Mugabe has ruled Zimbabwe for nearly three decades and has led it, in that time, from impressive success to the most dramatic peacetime collapse of any country since Weimar Germany
The way Mugabe treats his opposition is the way a dictator would...it's something I would expect from Hitler or Stalin.
And before you argue that this is merely propaganda I would draw your attention to an incident on March 11 2007 when the opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai was arrested and beaten following a prayer meeting in the Harare suburb of Highfields. During this arrest and assault another member of the Movement for Democratic Change was killed while other protesters were injured.
Afterwards Mugabe claimed that "Tsvangirai deserved his beating-up by police because he was not allowed to attend a banned rally" on March 30, 2007.
I'm afraid I'm in agreement with Lodge here.
"there's only one way to win a war: shout, shout, and shout again!" - The Duke of Wellington ((Blackadder - Stephen Fry))
White Tiger said this in post #5 : I'm sorry Malcolm but even if I were totally anti-British, anti-Europe, anti-Commonwealth or anti-whatever I would be against Mugabe in the next election. Even if all the claims of corruption and criminal activites performed under his regieme aren't true there can be no denying the Magabe has made Zimbabwe the poorest country in the world.
As the Africa editor for The Economist for seven years, Robert Guest, says Mugabe is to blame for Zimbabwe's economic freefall. "In 1980, the average annual income in Zimbabwe was US$950, and a Zimbabwean dollar was worth more than an American one. By 2003, the average income was less than US$400, and the Zimbabwean economy was in freefall. Mugabe has ruled Zimbabwe for nearly three decades and has led it, in that time, from impressive success to the most dramatic peacetime collapse of any country since Weimar Germany
The way Mugabe treats his opposition is the way a dictator would...it's something I would expect from Hitler or Stalin.
And before you argue that this is merely propaganda I would draw your attention to an incident on March 11 2007 when the opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai was arrested and beaten following a prayer meeting in the Harare suburb of Highfields. During this arrest and assault another member of the Movement for Democratic Change was killed while other protesters were injured.
Afterwards Mugabe claimed that "Tsvangirai deserved his beating-up by police because he was not allowed to attend a banned rally" on March 30, 2007.
I'm afraid I'm in agreement with Lodge here.
Instead of agreeing with someone who has an bias agenda against (Cde) Mugagbe. Why don't you get information about (Cde) Mugagbe and Britain's history with Zimbabwe and have your own OBJECTIVE opinion. Lodgbo is a "manchurian"( see movie manchurian canidate) whose job is to smear President Mugabe. THINK FOR YOURSELF.
For example, your opinion of Tsvangiriral (so-called) beating incident seems as if you and lodgebo get info from the same source. But there are other articles that say " Tsvangirai , among others were deliberately defying the law and provoking a violent confrontationn withe the police and the government."
An eyewitness with the (MDC) said after incident:
"All in all there were only about 30 police and there were more than 1000 - we were too many for them. They could not control what was happening." and " We picked up their (police) discarded sticks and used them to beat their left-behind colleagues" ( BBC article 'Eyewitness: Harare's brutal clash')
Over a thousand protesters, mostily youths, and 30 police officers who were eventually overpowered by (MDC) protestors. The small number of police clearly showed that the police did not come out prepared for a confrontation. Do you believe 1000+ (MDC) supporters would allow there leader (Tsvangirai)to be beaten as Western controlled media reports?
From that article there is no way anyone( Pro-Mugagbe or British) can say Tsvangirai was beaten as you and lodgebo say.
lodgebo01 said this in post #3 : Actually 2 years ago MAlcolm said this:I will give true history of Zimbabwe . Had to do some research. Unable to spin and create stories like Logebo. and yet we are still waiting for it I really would like to see how you view this hiostry and maybe you could elaborate and tell us about the future of Zimbabwe, it's been near 2 years after all how much research do you need.
Instead of agreeing with someone who has an bias agenda against (Cde) Mugagbe. Why don't you get information about (Cde) Mugagbe and Britain's history with Zimbabwe and have your own OBJECTIVE opinion. Lodgbo is a "manchurian"( see movie manchurian canidate) whose job is to smear President Mugabe. THINK FOR YOURSELF.
For your information Mr. the-world-is-against-me. I actually started to post my reply before Lodge. He just happens to be a hell of a lot faster in replying than me. And I looked on several sources before posting so I got a pretty accurate idea of how the Zimbabwean Economy was doing.
I'll admit that my talking about the how Mugabe treats the political oposition in Zimababwe was perhaps a gut reaction on my part but the economy bit wasn't.
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For example, your opinion of Tsvangiriral (so-called) beating incident seems as if you and lodgebo get info from the same source. But there are other articles that say " Tsvangirai , among others were deliberately defying the law and provoking a violent confrontationn withe the police and the government."
An eyewitness with the (MDC) said after incident:
"All in all there were only about 30 police and there were more than 1000 - we were too many for them. They could not control what was happening." and " We picked up their (police) discarded sticks and used them to beat their left-behind colleagues" ( BBC article 'Eyewitness: Harare's brutal clash')
Over a thousand protesters, mostily youths, and 30 police officers who were eventually overpowered by (MDC) protestors. The small number of police clearly showed that the police did not come out prepared for a confrontation. Do you believe 1000+ (MDC) supporters would allow there leader (Tsvangirai)to be beaten as Western controlled media reports?
From that article there is no way anyone( Pro-Mugagbe or British) can say Tsvangirai was beaten as you and lodgebo say.
Your right somewhat there Malcolm. Tsvangirai was breaking the law as discribed by Robert Mugabe. This is because Mugabe had banned any an all public meetings not sanctioned by his party. However this was not a violent confrontation between Tsvangirai and the police and he was not even at the rally when he was attacked, he was on the way to it, level of violence that was used on him was totally unacceptable and Mugabe should not have condoned it.
It would be just like Gordon Brown sending police to break up the Torrie Party coonferance and letting them beat David Cameron black and blue. It is thuggery and it should not be allowed or condoned by any politician.
I dont think that quote is right either. It doesn't have the Churchill flair. The only quote I can think of that is similar to the one you claim is his is during his famous "fight them on the beaches" speach where he says we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,"
"there's only one way to win a war: shout, shout, and shout again!" - The Duke of Wellington ((Blackadder - Stephen Fry))
]I don't think that quote is right either. It doesn't have the Churchill flair.
Read what is called his greatest speech ever.
Winston Churchill's 4 minutes and 12 seconds speech on October 29, 1941( Britain was under attack from fellow imperial aspirant Germany) at the Harrow School of Excellence has always been remembered as his GREATEST SPEECH EVER- all for three words made eight by the repitition of one.
"Never,ever,ever,ever,ever,ever,ever give in."
(On the the war with Germany)
"Did you not expect to move from crisis to crisis?"
" You cannot tell from appearences how things will go"
( Advice for his people)
"Without imagination nothing will ever happen."
lodgebo01 said this in post #13 : What I know is irrelevent this is YOUR research that we are waiting for you know the reserach you were going get over 2 years back so where is it?
MY research doesn't prevent you from answering (simple) question: Do you know the HISTORY of Britain's occupation of Zimbabwe? (yes or no) is all thats needed.
02-02-2008 02:36 AM
thats good you are not allowed to contest an election in Zimbabwe you get beat and go to jail hell even if you were allowed to contest you are not allowed to win.
