Under the guise of saving Africans," the " Save Darfur Coalition" operation is DECEVING Amecans people in to supporting an invasion and occuption into Sudan ( Africa's largest country).
By attracting sympathetic celebeities and black politcians, "Save Darfur" moves step closer in giving U.S. and EU the pre-texts to invade Darfur to save the people and at the same time its RICH OIL RESERVES. [ Be Aware: there are huge untapped oil reserves in southern Darfur and southern Sudan.]
"Save Darfur" never mention profit imperialist can gain from entering Sudan and breaking it apart.
Save Darfur Coalition is Christian Conservative and Neo-liberal groups in an imperialistic alliance TO DO IN AFRICA WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN IRAQ.
"Save Darfur" claim it is dedicated to end genocide in Darfur,BUT the Sudanese gov doesn't questioned that there is a civil war there. They admit that 1 mil sudanese have left to escape paramilitary groups.[ The UN, Amnesty Interational, African Union , and rest of world do not use "genocide" to desribe Sudan conflict.]
Their deceptive propaganda has transformed tht region's political and social conflict into a SIMPLISTIC story of good vs evil. Decades long disagreements between that set farmers against nomads was simplfied into African vs Arab- all in Sudan are Black and Muslim.
Those calling for imperlist intervention in Sudan do not talk about U.S. or France's role in promoting conflict, or THE HORRENDOUS CONFLICTS OCCURING IN OTHER COUNTRIES ON AFRICAN CONTINENT.
How did traditionally (and historically) racists white politicians become champions for the lives of Africans?
Well there wi8ll be an invasion in your mind malcolom because you work like this - peacekeepers = invasion. As for the Sudanese government yes they admit there is a war of sorts but they deny that the Janjawed are bakced by the government and they deny that women and children in the refugee camps are regulary murdered or raped but these things do happen.
As for the genocide tag well in my mind it's genocide in tne mind of the EU it's genocide in the mind of China it's genocide in the mind of the US it's genocide hell in the mind of Chad it's genocide. Now you are right that the UN has not offically classed Darfur as Genocide but the UN charter states " That the council is duty bound to intervene in member states where actions amounting to genocide or ethnic cleansing are belived to have occured" the UN is sending 26,000 tropops as peacekeepers I would say that says a lot about what the UN belive is happening in Darfur.
Now I don't know about this charity and I know little about the regulations regarding charities in the US but I do know that nearly all the other charities are acting in the interests in the victims in this an it's people like yourself who go for the ulterior motives vew that has held this whole thing up and has resulkted in more deaths. You rabbit on about invasion in Sudan and Somali yet you have nevere managed to porove this becayuse like I said you cannot differentiate between invasion and peacekeeping I ask you was the Balkans mission an invasion or not?
Seriouly can you give eviudnce of any of this from a reputable press source ( freecall and press TV are not repuatable they have the same agenda as yourself freecall especially but that does not make them reputable.
China is known for looking the other way when dealing with sketchy governments in the name of soveriegnity, mostly so other nations will look the other way when they examine China's own human rights records.
so if CHINA is calling it genocide, you know it's gotta be bad.
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
Actually what happend was that China backed the initial motion brought forward by the US that called the Darur situation and Chinese leader called sanctions and peacekeepers " good idea to stop the genocide".
Anyway China could do much more, despite what Malcolm claims regarding the oil Sudans national oil supply is owned by Malyasia, UAE and China who own 40% of the oil program the other 60% is oened by UAE, Malayaia, Sudan and smaller oil groups. Sudan is also the biggest African tarder for China and they need Chinese trade to survive die to a trade embargo from the US and Europe and a host of other UN sanctions so if China was to flex it's financial muscleit could have stopped this genocide a lot sooner I am not saying it definitly would have worked but it may have made the Sudanese think twice.
Dekka00 said this in post #3 : China is known for looking the other way when dealing with sketchy governments in the name of soveriegnity, mostly so other nations will look the other way when they examine China's own human rights records.
so if CHINA is calling it genocide, you know it's gotta be bad.
What does China have to do with "Save Darfur" scamming good people? Stay on topic cause its bait for those who cannot accept topics they cannot accept.
Lodgebo, gung-ho's like you have been trained to believe peace is killing everyone you think is a "bad guy" and the thousands of innocent (expendable) that were killed is just a part of war .
Military is only profession where murder is legal.
What does China have to do with "Save Darfur" scamming good people? Stay on topic cause its bait for those who cannot accept topics they cannot accept.
We are just widening the story it's what unblinkred people do.
Lodgebo, gung-ho's like you have been trained to believe peace is killing everyone you think is a "bad guy" and the thousands of innocent (expendable) that were killed is just a part of war .
Let me get this staright you are against a peacekepping force going into Sudan? just shows what a hypocrite you are Malcolm you claim to be all for Africans and yet you would rather thousands of African were raped, tortured and butchered then them getting help thats a pretty sick stance to take.
Military is only profession where murder is legal.
Oh I don't know what about secret service or executioner.
lodgebo01 said this in post #6 : [QUOTE]malcolm xx said this in post #5 :
What does China have to do with "Save Darfur" scamming good people? Stay on topic cause its bait for those who cannot accept topics they cannot accept.
We are just widening the story it's what unblinkred people do.
Lodgebo, gung-ho's like you have been trained to believe peace is killing everyone you think is a "bad guy" and the thousands of innocent (expendable) that were killed is just a part of war .
Let me get this staright you are against a peacekepping force going into Sudan? just shows what a hypocrite you are Malcolm you claim to be all for Africans and yet you would rather thousands of African were raped, tortured and butchered then them getting help thats a pretty sick stance to take.
Military is only profession where murder is legal.
Oh I don't know what about secret service or executioner.
You should write FICTION books on Africa. Your free to ignore facts and can make up any fairtale you can think of.
Don't be a HYPOCRITE if I choose to "widen" a topic in the future.
lodgebo01 said this in post #8 : Malcolm simple yes or no do you back the peacekeeping force in Darfur or are you happy to let more and more Africans die?
Also please feel free to furnish us all with the facts after all you are the expert so enlighten us all Dr Malcolm PHD in f**k all
I'm not aware of any " peacekeeping" force in Sudan. But that descion should not be made by Western countries who are now ( and have history of exploiting Africa's natural resources.
The UN passed the resolution last year and the peacekeepers have to be on the ground before October this year, the west held back but when it became clear that the AU was not up to the job then somebody else had to take responsibility.
Also you kepp making this daft claim that pecaekeeprs are there to exploit African resources when you have no facts to back it up you have already made this claim with your " US invasion of Somalia" baseless and factless story.
You still have not giovern us all these fact on Africa you have.
lodgebo01 said this in post #10 : The UN passed the resolution last year and the peacekeepers have to be on the ground before October this year, the west held back but when it became clear that the AU was not up to the job then somebody else had to take responsibility.
Also you kepp making this daft claim that pecaekeeprs are there to exploit African resources when you have no facts to back it up you have already made this claim with your " US invasion of Somalia" baseless and factless story.
You still have not giovern us all these fact on Africa you have.
Everyone knows the UN is ( can be) a puppet for any U.S. agenda.
This is why they pay 1/3 of budget of UN and other countries combine to pay a certain amount.
This gives them influence on who the will be in charge of UN or another puppet president .
Well not really as 5 other countries have vetoes and it's majority vote at least in the security council and of course the general council has no veto. The Iraq war vote shows the Us don't always get thier way and the unanimous vote on Darfur proves that US influence was not needed.
You still have no fcats on your accusations about invasions where is it?
Still waiting for the other Africans facts you have.
Lodge01 said this in post #12 : Well not really as 5 other countries have vetoes and it's majority vote at least in the security council and of course the general council has no veto. The Iraq war vote shows the Us don't always get thier way and the unanimous vote on Darfur proves that US influence was not needed.
You still have no fcats on your accusations about invasions where is it?
Still waiting for the other Africans facts you have.
The subject is on how The " Save Darfur Coalition" is is brainwashing good people. Its not a charity but a multi-million dollar campain disguise as charity work.
Inreview has become victim to " Save Darfur". Its a surprise if you are not aware of agenda.
First of all Malcolm look again at the story you posted by this "journalist" there is nothing in it that is commital or nothing that could be used as evidence in a court of law it's all very vague ask yourself why. I would suggest it''s either because this guy is just spouting because he has been brainwashed into beliveing that the " Islamic struggle" is the same as the equality struggle by African Americans or the fact that he knows he has nothing and does not want a hefty defamation charge brought upon him.
As fro inreview becoming part of this agenda man you are becoming deranged but if you wnat to furnish us with the actual hard evidence I would like to see it.
Once again Malcomm has not done his homwork. See Malcom you are worried that European and American companies will go in and tek over the copntrol of Sudan's oil reserves see thats funny because prior to 2004 the Sudnaese government let Europena and American and Chinese opil groups into Sudan and made lot's of money, mopney I might add that helped arm the Janjaweed, the Sudanese government have got thier tasils up because when the troubles started all bar one Oil company left and the Sudanese lost vital funds that they needed not just to fund thier killing spree but to feed thier people.
01-07-2008 06:18 AM
see thats funny because prior to 2004 the Sudnaese government let Europena and American and Chinese opil groups into Sudan and made lot's of money, mopney I might add that helped arm the Janjaweed, the Sudanese government have got thier tasils up because when the troubles started all bar one Oil company left and the Sudanese lost vital funds that they needed not just to fund thier killing spree but to feed thier people. 
