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Heroes ep 111 - Dec 4th - Fallout post #1  quote:



Here is what Yahoo TV had to say about it...

The tragic events in Texas have serious repercussions for many of the heroes, their families and friends; shocking details about the moments leading up to Isaac's predicted New York nuclear bombing.


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And a Hero dies...

Who do you think it is?

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I don't know... there's been a lot of speculation! People kept saying that it will be Nathan, but the future Hiro saw a newspaper with a headline saying that Nathan won the election.

I think that it's going to be someone that will get our attention, and cause the show to go into a direction that it couldn't without this death.


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Still could be Nathan, who knows what Hiro's time jumping has changed. I don't think it will be though.

I think it will be D.L. Probably smoked by Jessica like we saw last time.

Maybe it will be Matt. He's kind of useless on the show. Maybe.

Won't be Peter, Hiro or Claire. At least it reeeeeeeeeeally shouldn't be.

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I don't know that DL will be wiped out yet.

And, if Peter is truly like the most important hero, because of because about to absord others powers, then I would assum that it will be someone that he's already been in contact with, so he will have had their power.


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Did you read the spoiler thread?

It kind of talks about the few people that certainly won't be killed.

I think it's either D.L. or Matt.

I think Ando will kick it too.

Hell, we forgot about Isaac too. Maybe Eden?

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Well, it's hard to guess, when all you're told is that a hero will die.

There are a ton of characters on the show. There was no clue... so, it could virtually be any hero. It could be someone who's got powers that we haven't even heard of yet. It could be the "official" confirmation that Charlie (waitress who could learn anything she read/heard) is dead.


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I have a feeling it will be a main one.

I read an Entertainment Weekly article a week or so ago and the creators were going to smoke a lot more heroes from week to week. Since the show took off they've been a lot more sparing than they intended.

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They did spare some characters... and the reason is because the actors who play the characters have really gone above and beyond, and they don't want to off them now.

But, they have to do this one tonight, or the show can't go in the direction of where they envision it going.

I'm sure that it's a major one too... but, I have no idea who, why, how. I guess we will find out soon enough.


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Cool that's it's not a hero snuff film but it will suck to see some of them go.

The cast is pretty massive though and they're still going to introduce new people. Makes for a lot of storytelling but it makes it slow, too. 10 characters all in different directions.

I bet it's Isaac... or Nathan. I have no idea.

Again, probably D.L.

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Yeppers... we have a new hero who will be intro'd in Jan, when they come back. He's got invisibility, and has had it for years. He's going to be a teacher for Peter.

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That's the spoiler I read today.

Hopefully they get the radiation guy out of jail. Still looks like he's responsible for blowing up NY.

Or maybe Sylar takes his power and tries to do it himself.

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Well, can Sylar do anything at this point? Eden made him sleep, and then the mind dude finished him off. What will happen to him now? Wonder what Mr. Bennett is going to do with him. After all, the guy tried to off his daughter, and had he not mistaken Jessica and Claire (because of the news report, and that biotch cheerleader taking the credit for the train wreck) then Sylar would have killed Claire.

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Looks like Sylar is a prisoner for whoever HRG works for. And it doesn't look like he's the Law since Parkman is still chasing Sylar.

Guess he will study Sylar, find out what his deal is. Or just do whatever he does with the Hero's. Matt and the Nuclear Man both had the same experience. They were bagged and tagged, we still don't know what happened to them.

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post #15  quote:

Who's Parkman again? I can't remember.

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Matt, the mind reader cop with the slutty wife.

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Oh, that's right... thanks. I just call him Matt, so I forgot.

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Okay, I'm looking on the Heroes board, and here's some things that are being posted, by the east coast people about tonights ep. Spoilers below... if what people are posting on there is true.













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Something about the Haitian and him speaking/not speaking. I guess because whenever he's seen, he's not spoken, at all. But, he speaks tonight. And, apparently, he's a bad ass.

Peter's cough means something (and that it's being pointed toward Mr Bennet). Okay, someone is saying something about the comments, early on, by Claires parents about her having a bad cough as a baby. Could Peter have asborbed some of her stuff, and got the cough?

Isaac is clean (drug free)

Peter is the bomb

Matt can break through the Haitian (don't know if that means his thoughts, or what)

Nikki turns herself in

Eden is the hero that dies

New catch phrase: Are you on the list?

The Haitian wants Claire to be able to remember something

Supposedly, people are thinking that Peter died. But, from some spoiler article, it looks like we will find out that he's slipped into some sort of coma.

Claire's friend, Zack, has his mind wiped.



Here's something about Peter:
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Okay, so Peter is the explosion.

Claire mouthed "I'm sorry" and ran the **** away.

Hiro and Ando just sorta stood there. Nathan came kinda close. Matt, Niki/Jessica, Micah, and DL all ran the **** away.

Why the **** does Peter explode? Does he absorb too much?




Someone's post about the episode:
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Peter is the bomb, "Exploding man painting" was in the dream at the end.

Eden (it appears, is dead)

MM wiped Lyle and Zach and Mom (many times, as predicted).

Does HRG know what MM is doing? That he needs Claire to remember is VERY interesting.

Isaac can paint clean (did you notice he sketched the scenes from BEFORE Hiro did his little time jump?)




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My first thought. I remember when Rouge from the X-men had a panic attack after she collected the powers of so many people.

I see the same thing happening here. Peter has absorbed so many people's ability so far that it's overloaded his system. And in response, it let go of every last bit of every single one left. That is why he went into the future, and was fully healed, and so on, and so on.

Most likely in the future, Peter will be able to absorb multiple abilities and maybe even hold onto them for periods of time. But right now he is going through a change in his ability.




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We don't actually know who died. We assume it's Eden from the way they edited the scene.

But in the previews for what's coming, they showed a still shot of Sylar lying on the ground, with his eyes open like he was dead.

We don't know anything more. This episode answered no more questions. But it was still freakin' great.




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Lesson Learned today:

A. Mr. Bennet is a *** ****
B. Peter may/is the bomb (ala Ted...)
C. Hatian has enough sense to stand up against Mr.Bennet (telling Claire to remember/forget everything...but eventually, Claire is going to "rediscover" her powers anyway)
D. Eden's been auf'd
E. And Isaac can paint clean YAY
F. Hiro goes to play with the dinosaurs! (sarcasim intended)

Now we only have to wait about 6 more weeks till the new episodes come YAY!

But one thing that's been bothering me is WHO does Mr. Bennet work for...in the premire episode he was talking to someone on the phone when Mohinder came into his dad's office, while in Fallout, he was complaining to someone on the phone about Sylar's condition...hmmm...


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post #19  quote:

More posts, from others, on the Heroes board:










































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Some reflections:
Nikki/not Nikki is still super annoying. I hope they are gone for awhile.

As expected, Eden died. It was a little disappointing--while heroic, it was a little too dumb of an ending.

The Peter/Mind reader scene was interesting and not as cheesy as folks were expecting.

Sylar's power was as expected and he was absorbing powers by altering his DNA.

To get a little deeper--Eden's death underscored what I've said will be the next great theme in the series as "discovering new powers" gets old. The next great theme will be "strategic use of powers".

Eden had one of the two most powerful abilities, and yet was easily killed because SHE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HER OWN POWER. If she did, she would know to never say, "I'm going to do blah blah blah and then".

By setting a condition, she gave her target utter freedom to kill her as he was not compelled until after she fulfilled the condition.

That is what Peter is struggling with--he has a great power, but he doesn't have any clue how to harness the powers he absorbs.

As I said last week, the Haitian is one of the most heroic characters. He necessarily must be. Sure, we don't know for sure what he is up to, but he has too powerful of an ability to not be good. If he was evil, he would be worse than Sylar--sure, he can't kill Heroes at will, but he can wipe anyone's mind without them being even aware of his presence.


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post #20  quote:

I think that the writers better hurry up and make Nikki/Jessica a character that is explained to the viewers. People are bored with her. And I don't think that I've heard one person who really likes her.

As for me, I'm sure that she's got a great story line.. but, they've just not tapped it yet.


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My guess Eden sacrificed herself to prevent Sylar from taking her power of persuasion?

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The big question for me is of course what the Haitian wants Claire to remember. Heres a couple of scenarios:

1. Remember Peter Petrelli saved you. Lame, I know, but in Peter's 'future vision', she does still seem to recognize him (mouths "sorry"), so either she remembers him or Peter must meet with her again and convince her that she has powers and knows him.

2. Remember you have powers. It just crossed my mind that HRG might want Claire to again be oblivious to the fact.

3. Remember that your father is a maniacle genius

or, and this is the one that is the most likely in my book

4. Remember (insert some random piece of information that makes no sense at all but will come in handy in the future, i.e. a name, a place, a phrase like "the black cat howls at midnight").

Any other theories?


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I'm watching the episode right now... and it's almost over.

I was bummed to see Claire find Zach, on the football field (at the high school) and he's had his mind done. He doesn't think that they've talked since they were in 6th grade. He's been her one friend, this entire time, that she's had to talk about what's going on with her.

I'm glad that Claire got to spend a few mintues talking to Peter, without her dad in the room. Though, he didn't let her stay long. She thought that she was the only one like this, and to find that there is another person, like her, she's so happy. And finally feels like she's not alone. Don't know what will happen... if she will end up taking off from Texas, and finding Peter in NY.

I liked the whole thing between Peter and Matt, and the mind reading between the two of them, and Matt's FBI partner. So, now Peter has a new power to add to his list.

Still not really understand Sylar... though, I don't think that we're supposed to. They don't want us to know everything yet. Though, I do love the comment, passed between him and Mr Bennet... "Makes them... tick!" Too funny.

Hiro talking to Isaac, and telling him that he CAN tap into his powers, without being on heroin. So, he will be able to continue seeing into the future.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, the Haitian guy... who's done the mind erase, on Claire's mom, and brother, Lyle, multiple times. Interesting. Mr Bennet doesn't want them knowing a damn thing. But, what does the Haitian guy want with Claire? What's the secret that he's asking her if she can keep?


The ending... Peter saw the future... and I'm thinking that he's absorbed too many people's powers, and doesn't know how to balance them all, as his own. I don't think that this "vision" will come to pass. But, I think that the events leading up to it are going to be set in play now, because of everything that's been happening. All of the heroes will come together, at some point. What will happen? Who knows. Nikki was out of jail though, and with DL and Micah, I believe. So, it's a ways from now, I'm assuming.


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At this point it doesn't appear that Peter retains the powers which he absorbs. Remember he told Ando he has no powers unless someone with a power is near him.

One thing that Peter has exhibited since the start however was some kind of dream premanition. He dreamt about his brothers car crash, once her nuts' dad dying, now this. Somehow Sylar was in his dream, too.

Someone could use Peter's ability against him and put the Nuclear dude near Peter which casuses him to overload and nuke the city. Of course that is kind of like the plot for X-Men (Magneto using Rogue to power his weapon.)

Looked like Eden smoked herself so Sylar didn't get her power. Sucks. This was too cocky. Sylar is dope though. He's twisted.

What does Hatian want Claire to know... something so big he's risking his partenrship with HRG.

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Alright, I've become hooked on this show. Thank goodness for these threads b/c now I can catch up on the ones I missed. But last night was SO GOOOOD.

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It was hella hella good. Glad to have you aboard the Hero train

Also, NBC.com has these online comics that tells more of the story. Kind of geeky but I can dig it.

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I spent my free time checking out those Lost extras online. It never really said that much. I'll wait for the episodes. and now i have to wait til JANUARY 22 TO WATCH HEROES AGAIN?
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Serious though, you can catch up. They will have reruns on NBC and on SciFi channel. You're stoked because you can see all the ep's you missed and be fresh on 1/22.

Are you on the list?

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I would check wikipedia to get totally caught up. They have all the information you will ever need.

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Eh, I'll wait til the episode marathon. Lemme know the date. I saw the first ep and half of the second.... then picked it up again at the "save the cheerleader, save the world" episode. GOOD MARKETING STRATEGY, that tagline made me watch it. i'm a sucker apparently.

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