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((This is all acording to the Daily Express))

The European Government in Brussels have decided that they are going to add British countries and regions to different areas under the control of their chosen officials.

Under this change the South of England, what once was Wessex, is now to be part of a region which includes parts of Western Belguim and Northern France and create Europes first Trans-national region. The capitol of this region, a choice between London or Paris, is to be Paris.

This Region falls under the control of a Frenchman called Alain Le Vern who was chosen by the Europen Government and not elected to his position.

Other parts of this plan means that western parts of Britian are to be grouped with parts of France, Spain and Portugul to form an Atlantic region.

Eastern Britain will combine with parts of Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Belguim, The Netherlands and Norway to form the North Sea region.

Wales, Northern Ireland and Ireland will make one region and Scotland is to combine with Norway, Greenland, Iceland, Sweden and Finland to create the Northern Periphery.

While this may seem like a good idea in Brussels this can only lead to one thing in Britain, the election to power of David Cameron and the Conservative party who have always spoken out against Britains intergration to Europe.

See Britain is one of the few Countries in Europe that declined the single currency for all of Europe. Britain has faught its Labour Government all the way on European intergration.

We British like our indepence and our own local and national identities. I am pretty sure that, given the choice, most Britishers would prefer to sever ties with Europe than suffer the break up of their country.

Let us not forget that at one time Britain ruled the world, Britain has declined but not to the point that we must rely on Europe for financial and political backing.

The very idea that we must suffer the indignity of the Break up of our country through the actions of men who we never elected and have probably never set one foot on British soil or our own government going against the wishes of the British people sends a pulse of anger and disgust though my body.

If the Labour Government dosen't oppose the creation of these regions then they will be out of power.

There is a feirce local and national rivalry thoughout Britain, so much so that when plans were brought forth to make a Solent city with Portsmouth and Southampton thousand of people, in both cities, protested so much that the plans were scrapped and not though about for over 40 years.

If cities as close to each other as Portsmouth and Southampton wont stand for the two cities being joined together then there is no way than the British people will stand for their country being joined to others.


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I can't imagine this will get approved by our government it would be political suicide. I sometimes wonder what goes on in Brussels for every good idea yout get at least two baffeling ones.

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I have recently read it is increasingly becoming mandatory in your school system not to teach uniquely British history but a more pan-Euro perspective. The significance of your roots is being washed away replaced by a more revisionist global-like ideal. In many respects that's been occurring here in the states for quite some time. Its not hard to forsee who will profit by this.

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I don't know about that, it may have changed since I left but I got 5 years of Scottish/British history at primary achool and the 3 years at high school. Of course we got the history of the unification of Germany, the rise of Facism in Italy, the rise of Hitler and the Nazis and the Spanish civil war but that was because they were all interlinked to either the 1st or 2nd world war which is of course a major part of British history.

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I was taught the history of Britain in school and I only graduated about three years ago. British History is important and still taught in school.

The Education system is still under the control of the British Government. Ignoring the fact that my school was utterly rubbish for my year and experimented with new topics for us then changed back when it didn't work, the subjects taught in History classes are about the English Civil war, WW1 and WW2, Hitler and the Nazis, the Holocaust and Britains growth in general. The primary schools teach stuff about the Angles, the Saxons, the Vikings, the Normans, the 100 years war and The old British Empire.

So unless things have changed rapidly in the few years since I left school it is unlikely that British History is being replaced by European History.


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I was mistaken, nothing has changed yet. I heard some discussion about this high level proposal and its possible consequences and conclusions. It basically says English schools should no longer try to teach students the difference between right and wrong (if they still were) as well as leadership skills. British cultural heritage also should no longer be a requirement. It looks to be a more structured implementation of multiculturalism for society starting with children at the classroom level. In other words no traditional values just current values :-) To me, the kind of 'education' that could make such EU proposals more digestible even if in the distant future. Your opinions may differ. Here's the link...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,591-2292741,00.html


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Re: European Plans to Break Britian apart post #7  quote:

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((This is all acording to the Daily Express))

The European Government in Brussels have decided that they are going to add British countries and regions to different areas under the control of their chosen officials.


The Express is a juvenile stupid racist British newspaper (on a par with the Daily Mail). It is rabidly hostile to Europe, Europeans, foreigners, Muslims, blacks, more foreigners, teenagers, immigrants, the working class, council estates, liberalism, foreigners etc. It's a paper for the most fundamental reactionary nimbys you'd ever meet, who hanker back to some rosy past where blacks and foreigners knew their place, and Britain was great.

You can get a good idea who buys this rag by the fact that it's still putting stories of Princess Diana on the front cover, every other day it seems.


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I must admit that I am not a big fan of the Daily Express. My parents get the paper I only skim through the storys unless something interests me. It isn't quite as bad as the Daily Mail.

I get irritated every time I pick up the Express to see a picture of Diana Princess of Wales covering the front page. Shes been dead for over eight years now cant the media let her memory rest in peace and move on. Also when ever something good is reported to have happened the Express say it was because of them, or say statements were given solely to them when the same statement appear on several different papers and on TV.

It was I think more of the idea that this European Region plan could happen that apauled me so much, rather than saying it was fact from the Express.


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It was I think more of the idea that this European Region plan could happen that apauled me so much, rather than saying it was fact from the Express.


I would take what the Express says on Europe with a very large dolop of salt. The plan sounds ludicrous and it wouldn't surprise me if the story was an exaggeration of a rumour of a lie.

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Steevo: I have recently read it is increasingly becoming mandatory in your school system not to teach uniquely British history but a more pan-Euro perspective. The significance of your roots is being washed away replaced by a more revisionist global-like ideal. In many respects that's been occurring here in the states for quite some time. Its not hard to forsee who will profit by this.


I didn't do history at school but I do remember that the kids who did do history spent a long time learning about the Chinese revolution, which considering the wealth of British history is just plain bizzare.

In my experience (and it's a long time since I left school) most of the stuff they taught in school beyond the three r's was completly useless. I have a friend who works as a teacher and he told me school is where the majority of kids go to get disciplined, not taught. Maybe things have changed.


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I was one of those people who chose History as a elective and I had to do the Russian Revolution (with Vladimir Illic Lennon, Leon Trotski and Joseph Stalin), the Chinese Cultural Revolution (Mao Tse Tung and Chang Kai Shek) and life in the sixties.

This was decided as a replacement to World War 2 which ever year before and after my year group had to study. The Russian Revolution, Chinese Cultural revolution and life in the sixties were dropped because of so many people failing to reach their predicted grades in their history GCSE tests.

They have now returned to studying WW2. I was very annoyed at the change in History subject as the reason I went to the school I chose to go to was because of their WW2 course work. I was interested in studying the Second world war at the time and so I was very annoyed at the change but what can you do.


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I think it really depends on what part of the country you are. I never did any of the things Tiger did, we got the unification and rise of Germany, Spanish civil war, road to world war 1 and the birth of the union and the decline and rise in Scottish nationalism.

Mind you after what I read today most kids need a good old fashioned geography lesson.


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