Seymour Hersh says Bush and Israeli gov planned Lebanon war months in advance. Any incident , no matter how small would give Israel reason to start war with Lebanon to start war with Iran. How many knew this? Why conservative media has ignored this fact?
malcolm xx said this in post #1 : Seymour Hersh says Bush and Israeli gov planned Lebanon war months in advance. Any incident , no matter how small would give Israel reason to start war with Lebanon to start war with Iran. How many knew this? Why conservative media has ignored this fact?
fuscia said this in post #2 : Oh totally! Yep, they got Hezbolla to kidnap a couple of Israeli Army guys to start that war.
There were minor cross border incidents between Hezbollah and the IDF everyday, as the article said:
"Any incident , no matter how small would give Israel reason to start warno matter how small would give Israel reason to start war"
Bush is enthusiastic for an attack on Iran. Any attack on Iran would provoke Hezbollah to launch attacks on Israel, including Telaviv. So Hezbollah get in the way of the real target. Thus the attempt to destroy them. But it failed.
You know maybe, just maybe the story hasn’t caught on in the major media is because of Hersh’s reputation as a journalist.
I took the time to read this guy’s biography and he sounds more like a guy who has an axe to grind. He’s made it his life’s work to trash America’s leaders and military. He hasn’t written one favorable article from Vietnam to this war in Lebanon. Apparently he’s most notable for controversy during his speaking engagements instead of his controversial articles. He’s acknowledges fudging facts during his lectures because it’s easier to do than when he puts it in writing.
In 1970 he won the Pulitzer Prize for his story for his story on criminal acts of the US military in Vietnam and since then every thing he published is a hit job. In the 1970’s, he consistently exposed CIA covert operations by reporting on them. He also wrote several books on Henry Kissenger, J.F. Kenedy, & Israel’s attempt to gain nuclear weapons to name a few, all of which were negative. He also wrote a book about General McCaffrey’s behavior during the Gulf War and articles criticizing Clinton’s response to the bombings of the US Embassy in Africa by bombing Sudan’s pharmaceutical plant.
In 2001, he drew criticism by reporting on US military operations in Afghanistan and exposing their tactics. In 2003 he wrote several articles detailing specifics information about the 2003 invasion in Iraq. In 2004, he wrote about the Abu Ghraib and ending up having to retract some of his statements about US soldiers sodomizing little children.
In short, the mainstream media doesn’t consider him a viable source because of his consistent attempts to discredit rather than report. Credible journalists distance themselves from him and given his history for good reason. If what he says is true, he will find it difficult to get mainstream media to listen.
Governor Bush on Kosovo war exit strategy in 99 ” Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
President Bush on Iraq war exit strategy from 2003 to 2008. “ “
oneofpeace said this in post #6 : You know maybe, just maybe the story hasn’t caught on in the major media is because of Hersh’s reputation as a journalist.
I took the time to read this guy’s biography and he sounds more like a guy who has an axe to grind. He’s made it his life’s work to trash America’s leaders and military. He hasn’t written one favorable article from Vietnam to this war in Lebanon. Apparently he’s most notable for controversy during his speaking engagements instead of his controversial articles. He’s acknowledges fudging facts during his lectures because it’s easier to do than when he puts it in writing.
In 1970 he won the Pulitzer Prize for his story for his story on criminal acts of the US military in Vietnam and since then every thing he published is a hit job. In the 1970’s, he consistently exposed CIA covert operations by reporting on them. He also wrote several books on Henry Kissenger, J.F. Kenedy, & Israel’s attempt to gain nuclear weapons to name a few, all of which were negative. He also wrote a book about General McCaffrey’s behavior during the Gulf War and articles criticizing Clinton’s response to the bombings of the US Embassy in Africa by bombing Sudan’s pharmaceutical plant.
In 2001, he drew criticism by reporting on US military operations in Afghanistan and exposing their tactics. In 2003 he wrote several articles detailing specifics information about the 2003 invasion in Iraq. In 2004, he wrote about the Abu Ghraib and ending up having to retract some of his statements about US soldiers sodomizing little children.
In short, the mainstream media doesn’t consider him a viable source because of his consistent attempts to discredit rather than report. Credible journalists distance themselves from him and given his history for good reason. If what he says is true, he will find it difficult to get mainstream media to listen.
Maybe, but what about the so called "leftist" media? Why wouldn't they be runniing with the story, especially with elections so close?
Governor Bush on Kosovo war exit strategy in 99 ” Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
President Bush on Iraq war exit strategy from 2003 to 2008. “ “
oneofpeace said this in post #8 : Maybe, but what about the so called "leftist" media? Why wouldn't they be runniing with the story, especially with elections so close?
MSNBC reports US were conducting war games in IRAQ 6 years before Bush invades. It says 400,000 would be needed? Have you heard of story?
Of course they were preparing given the nature of Saddam. He was shooting at U.N. jets for god's sake.
Still, it doesn't lend credibility to Hersh's accusation.
Governor Bush on Kosovo war exit strategy in 99 ” Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
President Bush on Iraq war exit strategy from 2003 to 2008. “ “
I dunno Peace - they don't just toss those Pulitzers around. And he does write for the New Yorker. They fact check things. A lot. Maybe his speeches are different ... I dunno why he'd change things in them but ... anyway. He's been breaking stories for a long time, and massive ones ... I dunno about them not being "positive" ... what "news" stories are? It's all about the bad stuff. "Good" yarns are fluff.
As for Dubya and Israel planning war with Lebanon - they'd have contingency plans for invading everyone they don't get on with. You can bet it wouldn't take much more planning to start raining the bombs down on Tehran, they'd have all the angles worked out. Well - they think they would. Iraq might give them pause before staging multiple wars on multiple stages, as one of those lunatic vulcans thought would be a good and achievable thing once upon a time in their deluded fantasy kingdom.
Coogee Beach said this in post #12 : As for Dubya and Israel planning war with Lebanon - they'd have contingency plans for invading everyone they don't get on with. You can bet it wouldn't take much more planning to start raining the bombs down on Tehran, they'd have all the angles worked out. Well - they think they would. Iraq might give them pause before staging multiple wars on multiple stages, as one of those lunatic vulcans thought would be a good and achievable thing once upon a time in their deluded fantasy kingdom.
So any country that disagrees with America, there are contigency plans to invade and occupy thay country? This is hegemony President Frias warn us about at UN conference.
I aint saying it's right they have plans for the invasion of Everywhere - but it's a certainty. America likes it's No.1 status as the global superpower. It thinks that makes everyone else safe because they feel safe, because they know best.
Coogee Beach said this in post #14 : I aint saying it's right they have plans for the invasion of Everywhere - but it's a certainty. America likes it's No.1 status as the global superpower. It thinks that makes everyone else safe because they feel safe, because they know best.
Cue Iraq.
Blacks & Aboriginees do not feel safe. Conservative media never mentions conditions Blacks are confronting around world.
10-12-2006 01:05 AM
Yep, they got Hezbolla to kidnap a couple of Israeli Army guys to start that war. 
