Whidden said this in post #7 : Ophra shows an unrealistic view of what a fat woman can achieve in life. I'm boycotting her show for real. And Dr. Phil as well, because he is her buddy.
This quote from Whidden really made me think. It's as thought provoking as all of his posts, of course, however this one actually made me think something that made sense for a change. Oprah has the magazine, O, which I've never read, but sometimes when I'm using the fascilities there's a Cosmo or some other girly magazine around, that I just get to read the adds on breast englargement and butt-reshaping.
If I do get the urge to read the articles, I'm dumbfounded by the kind of crap these writers are trying to feed the women who read it. The articles come in a few categories: Why I can't keep a man; why I should break up with my man; why I can't find a man; look here, you're better off without a man, and; why I'm so unbelievably sexy, despite the fact that I'm 200 pounds overweight and continue to eat like a horse.
I read the men's magazines too. They're alright. It's usually just, "look at her, ain't she hot? Now here's a picture of a new watch you want." But these women's magazines I don't get. One article describes reasons you should break up with your man... there's like 20 of them, and none of them is anything even close to "You're a nagging *****, and he's sick of it." And in the section about finding a man, it tells them to be themselves and not to put out too easily... what kind of lame advice is that? Put out, we like it, and pretend to be a 18 year old cheerleader, we like it too!
Don't even get me started on the "my body's big and beautiful" rants that are stuck throughout. What about the skinny women reading the mag? How the hell are they supposed to feel? You're only encouraging them to become over-eaters!! And besides, these big women AREN'T beautiful, if you're like 300 pounds, you're overweight, unless you're like 8 foot tall. It's not about beauty, you're just unhealthy... get some exercise, go on a diet... Anorexia is bad, yes... belemia is bad, yes... obesity is bad too... there is a healthy middle, and most people can achieve that... if they don't want to, whatever, but stop praising them for being fat and confident. Their confidence is just denial! DENIAL I SAY!
Then there's the "You're better off without a man" articles... the sheer number of these articles that are contained within these magazines must give young women the idea that every man alive is gonna hit her / assault her. I once had a girlfriend who was arguing with me and started punching me, and when I grabbed her wrists to stop her she was like "HOW DARE YOU TOUCH ME!!!" I'm thinking what the hell, woman, stop hitting me. You're only little, but it kinda hurts. And it wasn't like I slept with her sister or nothing.
Oh, man, and stop telling women they don't need to shave under their arms.
So in conclusion, I have no point, I just want to rant about women's magazines for a while, and women who eat up the crap that these magazines are selling them. If you found it informative, good, glad I could share the knowledge. If you're mad at me.... pffft...
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
"Man is a marvelous curiosity ... he thinks he is the Creator's pet ... he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea." Mark Twain
Gaboman, if there was a way I could possibly agree with you more I would... but I can't. You have driven the nail of truth through the 4x4 of life.
Oprah. That beast. Her cult-life following has failed to realize that if she was any more of a commercial whore she would be getting filled out like an application by Tony The Tiger on top of a Jeff Gordon's #24 DuPont Chevrolet while doing a infomercial for a Bedazzler. All those 'prizes' she gives away in lieu of her mind numbing celebrity gabfests or self-serving book club nods are simply mini-commercials in her already bloated show. The woman is associated with more crap than flies are. And all those soccer mom's and young professionals who lose their freakin' mind on her show when they get a foot massager need a dose of reality and a Stedman sized boot to the jaw.
As for the Skirt Mags, where to begin. Those quiz's are nothing more than man-hating trite that make women think that no matter what in life there's always something to b*tch about. There's always something wrong. There's always something better that you don't have. You don't know what it is, but you want it.
You want to know why there hasn't been a female president? Because men don't get life lessons from a f'n magazine at the checkout isle. We read Playboy, tell the jokes and are done with it. You want to be fat, skinny, whatever, do it and be happy. Seeking empowering validation from Cosmo or Vogue only lasts until the next issue. If you didn't buy it... they wouldn't print it.
I don't read women's magazines. I find them to be really silly. How many ways can there be to give a man an "o". Honestly, Cosmo does a cover with it almost every month - yes I read the covers of all the mags while waiting at the check out stand.
Why can't these magazines just teach women a few universal truths:
1.) Don't talk to us during the game. You may bring us a beer or snack, but you have to be quiet. Go out with your friends, see a movie, fly a kite if you have to.
2.) We never, ever want to cuddle. Don't expect it.
3.) Even if we thought you looked fat in that shirt/dress/anything, do you really think we would tell you?
4.) We hate plays, opera and chick flicks. Period.
5.) When you complain, whine or nag you sound like our mother. Don't do that.
"Man is a marvelous curiosity ... he thinks he is the Creator's pet ... he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea." Mark Twain
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
Hey, my cheeser post was thought provoking! Yeah me!
In my VAST experience, "in general", women are more self doubting, and need verbal or written back up. More emotional, they require someone else to write or explain this gobblygook that men take for granted.
Yeah, yeah, it's general terms and there are always exceptions, lot of strong women out there. And being emotional is not a bad thing anyway, emotions are good. If chicks acted like dudes, life would be pretty crappy.
These magazines talk a lot of trash, but the women folk eat it up. If they didn't like it, it wouldn't sell. Mags sell what people want to read.
Sure, the truth might be like was said up top here in the thread, that to keep a man, you need to quit griping at him for his every move,
but that aint sexy, and women don't want to hear it. They would rather hear how if they dress in a slinky dress and know the erogenous zones, they can keep Dey Man. So, in a way, the mags are telling the chicks what they want to hear.
Case in point, women will complain about how the mags have all these supermodels in them, and no real fat ugly chicks like they are, and they whine and complain, but when the mags or shows come out with fat ugly plain women, no one buys that stuff. Women do want to see skinny good looking women in the mags, they just don't admit it.
You ever read a womans mag? I have read some of Sandy Junes, they are full of half nekkid supermodels in the ads. You would think they were a mens mag. Funny how men and women both want to look at women.
If you tried to make a womans' mag with the truth in it, that men hate griping whiney women, that some men are *******'s but some men are capable of love and settling down with a woman, and show them pics of frumpy real life house wives, that sucker would tank like the Exxon Valdeez.
Which reminds me of another point. Whenever fellows write into these chick magazines, they always get blasted. There was one the other day "my girlfriend got mad because I look at porn sometimes, what should I do?" The person responding was like "do everything your girlfriend says, no matter what." No suggestion that you should talk about this issue. Some dudes like porn, so perhaps they can share it or whatever. Or else just talk about the issue, and tell your ditzy girlfriend that his porn fixation has nothing to do with her stomach rolls or triple chin, or the fact that those chicks in the dirty movies do things that she doesn't.... it's just the way it is.
"I'm for it so we can put Nuclear power plants up there, and then beam the power back to earth on a laser beam." ~ Whidden
I was seeing this chick, and she didn't like the fact that I looked at porn.
I was like, hey, I'm bored, I'm gonna look at some porn.
Then, one day, I was looking at some internet porn, and I saw her and my dad.
Not cool.
I gouged my eyes out, and took an oath of celibacy.
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
Here's another one that pisses me off, and it's gonna get me into a lot of trouble because people'll no doubt misunderstand who I'm trying to fry here. What's with the women who always go on about such and such being so brave for having breast cancer? What's the deal with that? If I remember, bravery is more like doing something you don't need to do, but going at it anyway. Particularly if you do it to save someone else's life, for, like, unselfish reasons... that's what it should be. Not getting a disease and just living day by day. That's just something you gotta put up with.
I say this at great risk to my reputation, of course, because a lot of women look upon me as their role model (hahahaha... ah...), so I have to say I don't mean to belittle cancer sufferer's pain; that's not at all my intent. I'm talking about those women who raise these poor people into hero status for having cancer. It's like "she survived breast cancer, how brave!" But you wonder if they run around to women who have died of breast cancer and taunt them in their graves...
And if all that doesn't bring you around to my way of thinking, ask yourself: when the last time you heard someone call a dude who battled prostate cancer "brave"?
"I'm for it so we can put Nuclear power plants up there, and then beam the power back to earth on a laser beam." ~ Whidden
08-30-2006 04:27 AM
