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Time/Murtha: US Military Killing Innocent Iraqi Civilians post #1  quote:



Its time to hold military accountable. Abu Graib, burning dead Afganistans, torturing prisoners and now this. Military is no different than a militia.

This proves how conservatives have control of the media. US Military is killing innocent people and the media has more anger toward a baseball player ? There have been more stories on alligators this month than the army all year; more reports on a horse than this crime in Haditha.

Rep. Murtha said the death toll was far worse than reported and US troops killed innocent women and children "in cold blood" Worse than My Lai?

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There are no innocent Muslims. The reason they pray with their butts towards the US, is because that is who is widening their poop chutes. Allah can bend over too. How about you, Malcum XXX?


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There are no innocent Muslims. The reason they pray with their butts towards the US, is because that is who is widening their poop chutes. Allah can bend over too. How about you, Malcum XXX?



There are no innocent marines. I don't see Muslims breaking into homes and shooting American women and children while they sleep. Your gov is corrupt. Accept the truth.


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Re: Time/Murtha: US Military Killing Innocent Iraqi Civilians post #4  quote:

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This proves how conservatives have control of the media. US Military is killing innocent people and the media has more anger toward a baseball player ? There have been more stories on alligators this month than the army all year; more reports on a horse than this crime in Haditha.


Well despite the alligators, and the horse, the TV networks have been all over the Haditha massacre. In fact, in their zeal to run with it, they jumped the gun without realizing that they were being fed a line of bull by partisan political operatives. The marines cannot defend themselves against this media attack when they have placed the matter under investigation.

Obviously you believe the story and are therefore convinced that because the media seem to have placed it on a back burner, that is proof that the media are a run by conservatives who are defending a bunch of baby killing marines. But the fact is, the reason that the story seems to have taken a backseat to the frivolous stories is that the media are starting to realize that they were had on Haditha.

Soon the world will learn the truth and the Haditha massacre story will join Dan Rather, Mary Mapes, and their forged documents.

The Haditha story that has been fed to ABC, CBS, NBC, Murtha, and all the other liberal media did not happen. You should not believe everything you hear on TV.


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Could we keep derogatory comments out of this one, please.


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Could we keep derogatory comments out of this one, please.


What is a derogatory comment?

We are talking about a charge leveled by the media that Marines flipped out, went into a rage, and slaughtered innocent men, women, and children, versus a counter charge that the story is made up to discredit the war effort. Only one of the charges can be true. The one that is true deserves nothing but derogatory comments.


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Was talking in general. However no one can know for sure which is true, so people are free to discuss it. Since I haven't seen anything from the media covering this story at all, I'm not really that interested.

Comments like post number #2, however, are fairly inappropriate, and the only reason I'm leaving them for the time being is in the name of free speech. Plus the post was too stupid to be taken seriously.



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Comments like post number #2, however, are fairly inappropriate, and the only reason I'm leaving them for the time being is in the name of free speech. Plus the post was too stupid to be taken seriously.


I agree.


As far as the Haditha story goes, it has completely fallen off the radar. But about two weeks ago, I must have seen at least fifty references to it inside of one week's time. It was BIG news. It was being compared to the Mi Lai massacre of Viet Nam.

In the case of Haditha, there is no dispute over whether a dozen or more cilvilians were killed. They were. The debate is over whether they were killed as colateral damage in a fire fight, or killed outright as revenge for something they did not do.

ABC, CBS, NBC, and others ran with the latter without considering the former. Neither scenario has yet been established as fact. So much for objective news.


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Colateral damage? Do you consider your friends and family colateral damage? you obviously do not value people of color. ? I'm sure you had same feelings when My Lai masscre was reported? Accept reality that your military can do bad things


As far as the Haditha story goes, it has completely fallen off the radar. But about two weeks ago, I must have seen at least fifty references to it inside of one week's time. It was BIG news. It was being compared to the Mi Lai massacre of Viet Nam.

In the case of Haditha, there is no dispute over whether a dozen or more cilvilians were killed. They were. The debate is over whether they were killed as colateral damage in a fire fight, or killed outright as revenge for something they did not do.

ABC, CBS, NBC, and others ran with the latter without considering the former. Neither scenario has yet been established as fact. So much for objective news.


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Collateral damage has nothing to do with the value of what gets damaged. It's just a term to indicate damage to something that was not targeted.

Why would you conclude that I don't value people of color?

One of two possible scenarios happened in Haditha, and neither one has yet been proved. But ABC, NBC, CBS, Murhta, and yourself have all considered only one of the two scenarios, and have assumed that it is true.


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Collateral damage has nothing to do with the value of what gets damaged. It's just a term to indicate damage to something that was not targeted.

Why would you conclude that I don't value people of color?

One of two possible scenarios happened in Haditha, and neither one has yet been proved. But ABC, NBC, CBS, Murhta, and yourself have all considered only one of the two scenarios, and have assumed that it is true.


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Of 24 innocent Iraqis civilians killed in Haditha, a 66 year old women and 4 year old baby were included

Dr. Ishamael, docter of Baghdads City Hospital says "There are many, many, many cases like Haditha that are still uncovered and need to be highlighted in Iraq".

David swanson, a member of United for Peace and Justice[UFPJ] :

" Many of our troops were sent in, having been trained to expect gratitude from Iraquis, instead they are facing hostility and ingratitude . They see them as enemies and as people to be sadistically abused."


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You have no idea what happened in Haditha.

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You have no idea what happened in Haditha.



I don't know anymore than you but I'm using sources who have knowledge of Haditha masscre.

US military is major cause of Iaqi civilian deaths. " if you look at Iraq body-count website, almost a third of total Iraqi civilian casualties have been caused by the U.S." said [Mr. Leaver] an anti-war actvist.

Pentegon] statistcs say fewer than one in 300 soldiers were refered to a mental health professional before being sent to Iraq in 2005.

Twenty-two US soldiers committed suicide in iIraq in 2005 and some who committed sucide were kept on duty despite clear signs of sucide.

Doesn't this anger someone? Isn't anyone concern?


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I don't know anymore than you but I'm using sources who have knowledge of Haditha masscre.



Do you believe that the U.S. military massacred civilians because they disliked them?

Eventually there will be a conclusion about the Haditha incident by the military investigation under way. Will you accept that conclusion, whatever it is?


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