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I dont agree with the passive ruling from todays Blackburn/ Liverpool match.

Cisse was clearly in an offside position when he made a motion to play the ball. The defense reacted by closing in on Cisse. Cisse then put his leg down , thus letting the ball run on to Morientes. Morientes runs in 1 on 1 with Friedel. Freidel closes on Morientes. Morientes passes to a wide open Fowler who passes it into the net. All the while Cisse is still standing in his original position.

The interpretation on the field was that since Cisse didnt play the ball he was passive. I disagree. By merely pretending to play the ball he opened up an extra yard of space for Morientes, thus greatly affecting the play. What do you think?


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But he didnt play the ball or even move after he put his foot up ... its not against the rules to put your foot up now is it?

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If you run after the ball but dont play it , you will get called offside because you are involved in the play. Pretending to play the ball and then moving out of the way in an attempt to lure the defense out of position is the same thing in my mind

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Sounds like an offside move to me.

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If you run after the ball but dont play it , you will get called offside because you are involved in the play. Pretending to play the ball and then moving out of the way in an attempt to lure the defense out of position is the same thing in my mind


Did he move out the way? didnt you say he stayed in the same place while the other players scored


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post #6  quote:

He put his leg in the path of the ball ,presumably in an attempt to trap it, then moved it out of the way. After that he remained still and out of the play

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I didnt watch the game ... only high lights ... did he get picked up on it, as in by the ref ... not just the cameras

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I dont think the ref missed a thing that happened on the field, I just think his interpretation of the passive rule is different than mine. Which made me think, I wonder what other peoples opinion would be on the subject

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A player in an offside position is only penalized if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is , in the opinion of the referee,involved in active play by;

interfering with play or

interfering with an opponent or

gaining an advantage by being in that position


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post #10  quote:

I thought the official wording would make it clearer, but I think it made things even more vague.

At the moment the ball was played Cisse wasnt involved in the play, it wasnt until he pretended to trap the ball that he interfered with the play


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as a side note: ive seen plays where someone has got the ball in front of everyone ... then passed back to someone who scores the goal doesnt he put himself in offside by passing it back passed "wall"

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post #12  quote:

i agree that what cisse did can't be really considered as "passive", but in the same time i think that this kind of football "tricks" really adds magic and creativity to the game and gives more options to the players.

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