There are theories abound that the United States military, fearing this plane could strike another heavily populated targed in our nation's capital, shot down United 93 before it could reach its target and the ensuing drama surrounding those events was misrepresented to cover that truth.
First, do you believe it could have been shot down?
Second, if it was, would you be outraged? It could have struck the White House, afterall.
Third, do we just really want to believe a hero's tale in the midst of this horribly tragic day?
"VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, the--I suppose the toughest decision was this question of whether or not we would intercept incoming commercial aircraft.
"MR. RUSSERT: And you decided?
"VICE PRES. CHENEY: We decided to do it. We'd, in effect, put a flying combat air patrol up over the city; F-16s with an AWACS, which is an airborne radar system, and tanker support so they could stay up a long time...
"It doesn't do any good to put up a combat air patrol if you don't give them instructions to act, if, in fact, they feel it's appropriate.
"MR. RUSSERT: So if the United States government became aware that a hijacked commercial airline[r] was destined for the White House or the Capitol, we would take the plane down?
"VICE PRES. CHENEY: Yes. The president made the decision...that if the plane would not divert...as a last resort, our pilots were authorized to take them out. Now, people say, you know, that's a horrendous decision to make. Well, it is. You've got an airplane full of American citizens, civilians, captured by...terrorists, headed and are you going to, in fact, shoot it down, obviously, and kill all those Americans on board?
"...It's a presidential-level decision, and the president made, I think, exactly the right call in this case, to say, "I wished we'd had combat air patrol up over New York."
--NBC, 'Meet the Press' 16 September 2001
I don't know if it was shot down, or the four men helped to bring it down in that field. If it was shot down, I wouldn't be angry. They were going to die... and to prevent it from killing more people than those on the plane, I would say that it was needed.
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There were a handful of people, maybe a dozen or so, that all saw a jet near the plane before it went down. Wreckage was spread over 8 miles or more. Not your typical pattern for a plane that went nose down in a field.
Regardless, I think that if the plane was shot down they should have come clean. I don't see that they had any other choice but to shoot it down, especially if it's heading toward the White House. If they covered it up, I can see why, but if they are embelishing a 'hero story' to cover it up, that is sick.
Well unless I am wrong the states are like the UK and the only person who could give that order would be the leader of the country.
If Bush ordered the USAF to shoot the plane down then so be it shooting it down would be the logical and appropriate decision. If it was shot down then I think the only reason they did not tell people was that people would ask the question was it right for the USAF to kill innocent American's when so many had died already?
There's also another reason why I don't think they would tell if they shot it down but I think I will keep it to myself.
As for the plane I admit that 8 miles is a hell of a crash site in fact it is about the same size of the crash site in Lockerbie. However if the pilot is control of a crashing plane he would be trained to crash land whereas these guys had no idea what they were doing plus there is the possibility that the plane was coming down so fast that it broke up on the way down.
I think the plane was shot down. I remeber reading a story about it on Bloomberg news that morning. Of course the story changed to the plane crashing, then these details about a mutiny on the plane. I don't believe any of the subsequent details and I still believe the plane was shot down.
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Dozens of witnesses claim to have seen a jet near the plane before it went down. Who knows. Even if they did, maybe it's better to believe a heroic lie than a tough truth.
I am not sure if the plane was shot down. If it was, and we found out this late in the game, I would be VERY upset about the cover-up. There is no need for that. We all know Gov't lies to us every day but that would be HUGE.
Totally. I don't think they could release the truth now. Shortly after it would have been more acceptable I think. But maybe the 'lie' is better than the truth.
The gov't... from little city officials (baby fish in a big pond) to the President of the US... they ALL lie to us. It might not be everything that we're lied to about.... but, it's enough. Because of that, I tend to believe VERY LITTLE of what I hear.
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Absolutely. I mean, as hard as it is to say, if that plane was heading for the White House, better to shoot it down in rural Pennsylvania than have it nose dive on Pensylvania Ave, right?
EXACTLY!! While I believe that there were people on that plane who wanted to so things to help, and they just might have... I wouldn't be surprised to find that the gov't did something, and no one is being told.
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to believe that flight 93 was shot down and the government is covering up shows so little (or actually none at all) faith in our system. There is absolutely no reason for the government to cover up a shooting down of the flight. If it did shoot it down then it was justified and no reason to cover it up. If it was covered up don't you think that we would have really heard about it, instead of some foggy rumor someone heard on the Internet. Remember those stories that thousands of Jews took off that day from the World Trade Center? Well it turns out that no such thing happened but that theory still abounds on the Internet. When you have something substantial then tell me but until then it is a pure speculation or in some cases it is manipulative disinformation to make a group or government look bad. If you don't think the Jihadists are good at disinformation think again.
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Last edited by Benyamin on 05-02-2006 at 03:35 AM |
Who knows IF it happened. We're saying that it wouldn't surprise us, because the gov't does more than they will ever reveal. I don't trust in our gov't as far as I could throw all politicians, together. So, that should tell you something.
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04-03-2006 05:42 PM
