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Why Does Texas Continue To Lead In Executions post #1  quote:



Why does Texas continue to execute 3 times as many as next state? Why does list remain the same? This is crazy?

State executions since 1976
Total : 1004

Texas 355
Virginia 94
Oklahoma 79
Missouri 66
Florida 60 (jeb Bush)
N. Carolina 39
Georgia 35
S.carolina 35
Alabama 34
Louisiana 27 (Katrina victims not counted)


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Poplulation in said states

Texas 20,851,820
Virginia 7,078,515
Oklahoma 3,450,654
Missouri 5,595,211
Florida 15,982,378
North Carolina 8,049,313
Georgia 8,186,453
South Carolina 4,012,012
Alabama 4,447,100
Louisiana 4,468,976


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Post a little perspective post #3  quote:

Execution per population in said states

% per 1000 population

Texas 1.7
Virginia 1.3
Oklahoma 2.3
Missouri 1.2
Florida 0.4
North Carolina 0.5
Georgia 0.4
South Carolina 0.9
Alabama 0.8
Louisiana 0.6


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That mean execution per person is highest in

1) Oklahoma
2) Texas
3) Virginia
4) Missouri
5) South Carolina
6) Alabama
7) Louisiana ( i will ignore the RIDICULOUS reference to Hurricane Katrina)
8) North Carolina
9) Georgia
10) Florida


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post #5  quote:

and capital punishment in the United States is an internal affair and has nothing to do with foreign policy.

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post #6  quote:

Thread moved.

And you have an awesome point Dekka.


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post #7  quote:

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Poplulation in said states

Texas 20,851,820
Virginia 7,078,515
Oklahoma 3,450,654
Missouri 5,595,211
Florida 15,982,378
North Carolina 8,049,313
Georgia 8,186,453
South Carolina 4,012,012
Alabama 4,447,100
Louisiana 4,468,976


What about California? New York? Population theory still a good idea?


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post #8  quote:

Hey, Oklahoma #1.


eat that Heavens11.




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What about California? New York? Population theory still a good idea?

They're not what would be referred to as "Southern States"


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post #10  quote:

I'm glad you didn't include the Katrina victims in the tally for State executions, malcolm. 'Cause, like, I kinda think they wouldn't count...

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post #11  quote:

I don't care what state it's in... if you commit a heinous crime, such as murder, or child molestation, etc... then you deserve to have your life remove. PERIOD!!!

Anyway... Dekka, great job of showing TRUE facts!


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post #12  quote:

yes, its not execution, its life removal.

good points btw Dekka

what i'd like to know is, what are the crime rates in the countries (or states for that matter) that use the death penalty as opposed to those that don't. i wonder if having the death penalty and using it affects the crime rate in any way.


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post #13  quote:

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I don't care what state it's in... if you commit a heinous crime, such as murder, or child molestation, etc... then you deserve to have your life remove. PERIOD!!!

Anyway... Dekka, great job of showing TRUE facts!


Allegedly. His guilt was never proven and he has never omitted guilit. Please stop with the lie.


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Allegedly. His guilt was never proven and he has never omitted guilit. Please stop with the lie.



His guilt was never proven? A jury of his peers found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt


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post #15  quote:

That's exactly what I was thinking, Ron. Isn't that was the judicial system is set to do?

Then again, they aren't perfect... after all, OJ Simpson got off, scott-free.


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Who is this "he" we're talking about? the thread never mentioned anybody in particular................

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post #17  quote:

I don't know, Grant... I'm as confused as you are!!!

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I dont know who'' he'' is either, but I stand by my post!

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Well I have been readin the posts and I am willing to bet this "he" had the initials TW

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His guilt was never proven? A jury of his peers found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt


1 percent of jury pool was black? trial prisecutor compared Williams to Bengal Tiger? But this is wrong post to make argument.

TW was California's (most populated state) 12th execution. How can anyone defend Texas?


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post #21  quote:

I'm not defending Texas. I'm personally saying that if you commit a heinous crime, that the punishment should fit... and that the death penalty fits that of such a crime as TW commited.

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How can anyone defend Texas?


Remember the Alamo!!

I'm sorry but I had to put that, one of the few bit of American history I know.

probably has nothing to do with this thread what-so-ever


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Easy -- if you commit a crime worthy of receiving the death penalty, then stand ready to meet your fate.

Don't Mess With Texas!


What about the innocent who are not worthy of death? fate determine because unable to afford good lawyer? DNA?


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What about the innocent who are not worthy of death? fate determine because unable to afford good lawyer? DNA?


Instead of that tired old deflection, why don't you answer the reverse of the question.


What if the guy is a serial killer, caught in the act, and fully confessed to the crime?


Would you support the death penalty then?


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In my book, California is way behind the curve.

I can think of a couple who deserve it tomorrow....

Richard Ramirez
Scoot Peteyson.


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post #26  quote:

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In my book, California is way behind the curve.

I can think of a couple who deserve it tomorrow....

Richard Ramirez
Scoot Peteyson.


Son of Sam


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post #27  quote:

Georgia urged to suspend death penalty

ABA is publishing 323- page report saying Georgia should place moratorium on use of death penalty because of fairness.

ABA is nation's largest legal organization


Report says race remains a factor. Convicted murderers of white victims much more likeky to receive a death sentence than murderers of black victims

Georgia is only state that does not guarantee a lawyer for inmate

Surveys show jurors misunderstand judge's instructions about the evidence they can consider in death penalty case.

Only state that makes defendents prove retardation beyond reasonable doubt- higest burdon of proof.


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