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Those unanswerable questions post #1  quote:



I was thinking about God and religion and everything that it entails and decided to make a post about all the hard, incredibly mind-boggling, huh? questions. I'm gonna post a few here and would like to hear some other people's questions.. Also, if you have a comment or response to a question, feel free to post it.

How does God have no beginning??

Does God really know everything? If he created us to give us the option of driving him away or accepting him, then there must have been some point when he didn't know what we were going to do right? otherwise it wouldn't have been free choice.

Wouldn't it be cool if we gained an entirely new (6th) sense in heaven?

That's all that i can really think of right now but i know there are more out there and i want to hear em, so post them.



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Who were God's parents?
Where did God come from?
What did he do before he created the Earth and man?
Why did he create the Earth?
If he made humans in his image and he knows everything, why don't we know everything?
If God made man in his image and we evolved from amoeba, is God an amoeba?



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We didn't evolve from an amoeba.

His name itself answers a pretty important question. Yahweh means "I am". Yahshua(jesus) means Yahweh is salvation. The root of Yahweh's name is Hayah. It means to exists. The reason you are confused about these questions is because you are looking at it from our perspective. Yahweh is not bound to our 3 dimensional world. Time and space do not effect Him. It is why He can tell us what our choices will lead to, and give us prophesies so detail and accurate.

He said that He made us in His image but we are missing at least 1 dimension( probably more).

Yahweh created EVERYTHING for us, as He existed just fine without them.

And yes, He knew what our choices would be and that is why He had the perfect plan to bring an imperfect man(us) to His side.

No dinosaur questions????


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We exist in the present only.


Since we are matter, or mass, or energy, or whatever it is, we are,

when the electrons moves around the nucleus in the atom, or the quark shimmers, or whatever is going on down there on the sub-atomic level,

what was, becomes the present, then it moves on to next step.

Mount Everest 5 minutes ago does not exist, nor does the mount everest 5 minutes from now.

It did exist, and it probably will exist, but the only place it really does exist is the present.


God, however is different. He is made of spirit and the rules of our physical universe do not apply.

He told the Pharisees, "Before Abraham was, I AM".


He didn't say, before Abraham was, I existed. He said before Abraham was, I exist.

When Moses met God, face to face, he told Moses his name was "I AM".


Or I EXIST.


God inhabits, or lives, or exists, in eternity. He exists in the past, in the present, in the future.

He just IS.

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Isaiah 57:15 (New King James Version)
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15 For thus says the High and Lofty One
Who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy:

“ I dwell in the high and holy place,
With him who has a contrite and humble spirit,
To revive the spirit of the humble,
And to revive the heart of the contrite ones.



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We didn't evolve from an amoeba.


Theory of evolution contends life began from singled cell organisms.

Remember, people were laughed at for believing the Earth was round, not the center of the universe and it revolved around the sun.

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Re: Those unanswerable questions post #6  quote:

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How does God have no beginning??

I think that devildog and Whidden answered this nicely.

Does God really know everything? If he created us to give us the option of driving him away or accepting him, then there must have been some point when he didn't know what we were going to do right? otherwise it wouldn't have been free choice.

Free choice isn't bound by some omnipotent being knowing the outcome of everything. If He allows us to make our own choices, but He also can see into the future because he exists outside of the confines of time (because He created time...), doesn't change the fact that we still are not encumbered from making our own choices. He just knows what will happen no matter what we do, but that doesn't take away our own free choice, and the responsibilities and consequences that come with those choices.

Wouldn't it be cool if we gained an entirely new (6th) sense in heaven?

It sure would. Or if we were granted additional powers, like instant teleportation, or something like that... Who knows if it will happen, but it would sure be cool if it did...



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Who were God's parents?
From what is in the Bible, God doesn't have parents. He is THE source; the parent of all things.
Where did God come from?
Not sure, but it is an intriguing question.
What did he do before he created the Earth and man?
I'd like to know that too. I'm sure that in heaven, we'd be able to ask those types of questions and get answers. For now though, it might not be the most important question, as it might not relate to Earth or humanity at all...
Why did he create the Earth?
I theorize that He created earth for humans. I also theorize, from texts in the bible, that Earth is not the only inhabited planet in the universe. I think He creates life because He enjoys doing so, and He wants to share his knowledge with others who will appreciate it.
If he made humans in his image and he knows everything, why don't we know everything?
I don't think He meant 'in everyway'. I think 'in our image' refers to having dominion over others, and having the ability to create highly intelligent life through reproduction. Also, in the ability of mankind to create through science, and to learn and comprehend complex philosophies, systems, etc. I'm thinking it refers to the potential of the human mind and body.
If God made man in his image and we evolved from amoeba, is God an amoeba?
If my take on the 'in our image' intention is correct, or closer than the literal meaning, then we can see how God could've said something like that. If we take it literally, then there's trouble in reconciling that line with all that we now know and find evidence on about life and evolution, etc. However, if we think about the potential of the human mind as what God was referring to, then it doesn't matter what we evolved from. It only matters that our potential is real.



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Theory of evolution contends life began from singled cell organisms.

Remember, people were laughed at for believing the Earth was round, not the center of the universe and it revolved around the sun.

Science brings us all closer to the truth.

I agree. True, unadultered scientific discovery does bring us closer to an overall understanding of the universe. In that universal design, we can choose to see one of two things:
1. The design of the universe is quite wonderous, but its all random and certainly wasn't CREATED by a God.

2. Intelligent design was behind the formation of the universe, as things run in a very specific fashion. Far too complex in its simplicity to have been randomly generated, and to have sustained itself for such a long time as to produce planets with life, let alone intelligent life.

The cool thing is, the choice is ours as to which we will believe.




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I can believe that god created the universe and that our galaxy, system, planet, and life came from that creation.

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Great post Sierradaddy. I enjoyed reading it.


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Theory of evolution contends life began from singled cell organisms


I know what it contends, Heck, but the question is...is there any evidence to support it?
I have been studying this topic intensely lately and the belief in macro evolution takes a leap of faith beyond my comprehension.

As soon as you say "over millions of years" you have just left science, as the definition is something we can observe and test.

Yes, evolution takes place, but it is micro only. A bird may change the colors of its feathers or get a more hook like beak but it is STILL A BIRD. What we perceive as new species actually represent a partitioning of the original gene pool, not a mutation. And that is because mutations always represent a loss of information rather than a gain. And by the way, natural evolution is the result of mutations, 99.99999% of which lead to death. Show me a positive mutation.

Every aspect of the foolish theory has problems, and if it was true science, they would drop the theory( because it has no merit) and come up with a better one, but the alternative is out of the question so they keep teaching that we came from a rock. Brilliant!

Someone plese tell me the best example science has for a transitional animal. I have soooo many questions on this topic, perhaps we should start a new thread...and somehow keep it cordial.


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I can believe that god created the universe and that our galaxy, system, planet, and life came from that creation.

-HECK!

He said that He created us,so you either believe Him or not.


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You know what debating religion really boils down to? Saying that my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend.



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Maybe so, but I promise not to call my belief science.

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Rock on

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I'm going to start an evolution thread. Please share your insights on the subject there when it appears.

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There are several evolution threads already, if I'm not mistaken.

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Just realized that and feel plenty stupid without your help

I already posted it


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