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Is America a great country? post #1  quote:



I have read in this book that America is not as great as we think it to be.

  • The European working class works less than the American working class
  • People in Europe sue less
  • Most people in Europe are atheist
  • Europeans have better education than our children do
  • Europeans have cradle-to-grave benefits

The list goes on and on of what Europeans have and what Americans don't.



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well I prefer to live in a Christian country...

I'd say Americans have nicer accents though. Beat that, Europe!



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Why? I would rather live in an atheist country.


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why? cuz I"m a Christian silly


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My motto for this thread:

Everywhere you go, there you are.


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I would rather live in a secular country, a theistic or atheistic government would definitely be problematic for me. Those type of governments tend to push their beliefs on the citizens and I think the citizens should choose what they want.

But America is definitely not the greatest country. I think many Americans equate material wealth with greatness, and when it all comes down to it, material wealth does not make a country the greatest. Sure it's great to get stuff, but since I never really did that in the first place, I don't believe the US to be the greatest country and I could easily live in other countries, other countries that I believe do seem to have a better standard of living. I feel the US is a bit too workaholic.

But there is a great concentration of wealth here, which explains why many people come here, but if there are people that use the people coming to the US because they think it's the greatest country, they should think again as you see many foreigners returning to their countries to build them up.



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It's actually OK living in Europe to be honest but you cant really compare Europe and the US. Europe is 25 countries ( 41 if you want to take into account non EU members) and there are more Europeans that Americans or Russians combined.

The thing is every country has good and bad. The thing is that Americans are notorious for being ignorant of what is going on the rest of the world and that is why so many Americans equate the US with greatness and being the standard bearer for every other country in the world whereas in truth we can learn a lot from each other.

PS Dekka on the accents, there have been many polls, questionnaires etc and in the vast majority it has been the Scottish, Welsh or Swedish accents that have come out on top. Beat that.


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that's fine... but French, German, Spanish etc. are fug-ugly.


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Oh yeah German is a nasty language. I once met a guy who told me that the German langugae and accent was made for Hitler.

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Re: Is America a great country? post #10  quote:

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hazel_dragoneye said this in post #1 :
I have read in this book that America is not as great as we think it to be.

  • The European working class works less than the American working class

    which explains why America is more productive, and prosperous. It also tells us why America has a lower unemployment rate.

  • People in Europe sue less

    I don't know and don't care as this doesn't affect me and isn't something I regard as important when thinking of attributes of a great country. I guess it is a positive thing, Though.


  • Most people in Europe are atheist

    Now there's a positive


  • Europeans have better education than our children do

    This is an opinion and can not be properly studied. I could educate my child in any manner I wish. I could be a lazy parent and let the government raise her or I could seek out and furnish her with the best education the entire world has to offer. It is MY CHOICE.

  • Europeans have cradle-to-grave benefits

    At the expense of tax payers. Socialism has never succeeded anywhere. Ever.


The list goes on and on of what Europeans have and what Americans don't.

Yep, and I could add to that list , but I will be nice.




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sowhatsthetruth said this in post #5 :
My motto for this thread:

Everywhere you go, there you are.


My motto for this thread is:

If you don't like living here and think that Europe is better, don't let the door hit you on the way OUT!


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Devildog....The high amounts of suing in this country doesn't affect you in any way?

Think again because I think it affects almost everyone.

You said that America is more productive and prosperous then Europe....

I think I might have to disagree with this first statement. Europe, when I first visited the place, I think the country was Denmark, was a prosperous state. Most of the Western Europe is wealthy and productive.

Democratic Socialism insures that those who pay taxes will have benefits from the government. There is no such thing as a free lunch.



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democratic socialism sucks big time

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post #14  quote:

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Devildog....The high amounts of suing in this country doesn't affect you in any way?

Think again because I think it affects almost everyone.

I understand your point and hold no fondness for lawyers, but this doesn't really make a country great or not does it?
You said that America is more productive and prosperous then Europe....

The facts say it, not me

I think I might have to disagree with this first statement. Europe, when I first visited the place, I think the country was Denmark, was a prosperous state. Most of the Western Europe is wealthy and productive.

Then you disagree with the facts. In Jan. 2005,
UNEMPLOYED MALES

Euro-zone= 7.5
EU25 = 7.9
EU15 = 7.1

Females were

Euro-zone = 10.4
EU25 = 10.0
EU15 = 9.1

Under 25 were

Euro-zone= 18.3
EU25 = 18.7
EU15 = 17.0


And as far as the GDP, 32 of the top 50 are states in America, and 7 of the top 10.
http://www.demographia.com/db-intlppp-region.htm



Democratic Socialism insures that those who pay taxes will have benefits from the government. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

You said cradle to grave. I don't think the toddlers are employed and paying taxes. It's called a free lunch when someone else pays for it.


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Beck agrees with Devildog!!!!!!!!1


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