I don't think he'll need to, or at least not as much anyway... Voldmort has closed his mind to Harry, and even though it can be used both ways, any opening up to Harrys mind could also allow Harry to enter voldys again. I think that voldmort has too many important secrets to want to risk it. Although I think that if Harry did get into voldmorts mind again.. it may even be able to help him finding the horcruxes.
Won't you go away
and leave me till the time of dying days
stand here by my side
and watch the river flood and pass us by
I think that the duel with Snape will finally motivate him enough to learn it as best as he can, and he will become good at it. He wants revenge with Snape and he can't get it unless he becomes good at Occlumency, now can he? There is atleast one duel in store between Harry and Snape.
M.
"Every positive integer is one of Ramanujan's personal friends."—J. E. Littlewood.
I think he will learn it. Now he knows that it was Snape that caused his parents to die (telling Voldemort that the prophecy exists) he will want revenge on Snape
At the end of the book I don't think Snape really needed to see into harry's mind to know what spells he was casting. Remember in the first DADA lesson where snape tried to cast a spell, and Harry caught him quickly enough and knocked him off his feet. Harry was definetly not reading snapes mind. I think snape heard Harry say the beginnings of the spells he was trying. This is where wandless magic will help harry.
Won't you go away
and leave me till the time of dying days
stand here by my side
and watch the river flood and pass us by
First off, in the first DADA lesson, the reason Harry was able to block so quickly was because he reacted on instinct and used "protego" verbaly, when they were practicing nonverbal spell work.
Harry wasn't expecting Snape to all of assudden turn his wand on him and say "..here--let me show you--" and Snape wasn't expecting a verbal response. I believe Harry got in a lucky shot is all.
As for Snape hearing Harry saying the beginnings of the spells he was trying... Harry wouldn't have to worry about people anticipating what and when he was going to cast if he could manage to do it nonverbally, so I assume he will become quite good at this too. So I agree with you there.
But... Snape also tells him while they are fighting that he needs to learn both. "Blocked again and again and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter!" he says. Harry will be determined to get his revenge, so I'm sure he'll take this advice to heart.
In the end, Harry being able to Occlude would protect him from falling victim to any internal attacks from Voldemort, like what happened in book 5. When Dumbledore and Voldemort were duelling at the end, and Voldemort takes over Harry's body to make Harry say "Kill me now, Dumbledore..." "If death is nothing, Dumbledore, kill the boy...". All Harry can think about at the time is wanting it to end, and that "...death is nothing compared to this..." when he couldn't stand the pain.
daemon17 said this in post #10 : At the end of the book I don't think Snape really needed to see into harry's mind to know what spells he was casting. Remember in the first DADA lesson where snape tried to cast a spell, and Harry caught him quickly enough and knocked him off his feet. Harry was definetly not reading snapes mind. I think snape heard Harry say the beginnings of the spells he was trying. This is where wandless magic will help harry.
And just in case wandless is what you meant to say... I'm not sure wandless magic will be a deciding force in the defeat of Voldemort since it wasn't brought up in book 6, like "wordless" magic was. Who knows, I guess it could happen.
I know of accidental magic in the series, but I don't remember any intentional wandless magic being preformed. Can anyone confirm that?
No I definitely meant wordless magic.... don't know why i kept making that mistake... oh actually i do probably because i hadnt slept for 4 days when i was posting...
and no i don't see anything in wandless magic, except for the fact that it could come in handy for someone who was in dumbledores position when he died.. if they had enough strength to do a wandless spell.
Won't you go away
and leave me till the time of dying days
stand here by my side
and watch the river flood and pass us by
07-19-2005 10:26 PM
