Everyone should read this prophetic speech by Fredrick Douglass before they barbecue and watch another bias,romanticize, Holloywood produce version of some war where Black people's contribution is deleted.
just the FACTS:
".... What to the Black Man is your 4th of July?... To Blacks your celebration is a SHAM; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness swelling VANITY; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and HEARTLESS; your shouts of liberty and eqality hollow mockery;.... your sermons are FRAUD, DECEPTION; impiety and HYPOCRISY- a thin veil to cover crime which would disgrace any sovereign nation......"
well umm.. we're American, and July 4th is the American Independence day... so it kind of makes sense for Black Americans to celebrate July 4th...
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
Though Im gonna try and see if I can maybe look within the lines of what Malcolm is trying to say (since he wont come out and just say it).
Malcolm, are you talking about perhaps the blacks and their service in the armed forces?
I mean Douglass died in 1895...and I can see why he saw things that way back then...even in WWII things were that way...but again, times have changed since then. There are museums devoted to the blacks and their heroics in the wars.
At the St. Louis Airport, they have an entire wall devoted to the blacks and their service..it was hand painted..very cool looking BTW.
Malcolm, Im beginning to get the feeling that you are stuck in another era and havent quite reached the present.
I realize (as Im sure everyone does) that this happened back then...but its not like that anymore. People dont separate black vs. any other race in the service like that in terms of recognition.
Seems to me that you keep separating yourself from people more than people do to you.
Of course thats just my opinion....I could be wrong. (Dennis Miller)
"You might be the toughest little whacker. . .but in my world, you're about as worrisome as a cloudy day." (Dutch Dooley)
Dekka00 said this in post #2 : well umm.. we're American, and July 4th is the American Independence day... so it kind of makes sense for Black Americans to celebrate July 4th...
Have you read this speech? Its still credible from Blaclk people point of view. Do you or Mystic try and really understand the promblems Blacks around world are facing. The frustration? We are ask by Jews to feel their pain about there holocost? natives americans about their land being taken, arabs about occupation, scotland and IRA.... etc. Having concerts or starting organizations( NAACP) only helps everyone but us.
Have you read this speech? Its still credible from Blaclk people point of view. Do you or Mystic try and really understand the promblems Blacks around world are facing. The frustration? We are ask by Jews to feel their pain about there holocost? natives americans about their land being taken, arabs about occupation, scotland and IRA.... etc. Having concerts or starting organizations( NAACP) only helps everyone but us.
malcolm, in case you didn't know... I AM BLACK.
I happen to think it is a waste of time to bring up past atrocities against American Blacks.
We are free.
Many, many White Americans are standing side by side with Black Americans
I am not held down. I went to the same schools as white peeps, had the same opportunities as white peeps, have never experienced oppression.
The worst form of racism I have ever personally encountered is like, going to parties, and a white person sees me and is like "yo, yo, yo waddup man, yo yo yo you like rap?"
that is hardly oppression.
now I do realize that in some places in America black folks still face obstacles, but after 2 centuries of slavery, after decades of discrimination, after the fire hoses and the canines and the jailtime and the lynchings and the oppression that our grandfathers faced for our freedom and equality; WE ARE FINALLY FREE.
Rejoice, brother. We are free. God heard the cries of our ancestors and answered their prayers. Go to school. Study hard. Go to college. Make money. This is what our ancestors were fighting for. To sit here and continue to complain is disrespectful to them.
You have forgotten the face of your father.
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
Dekka00 said this in post #7 : The worst form of racism I have ever personally encountered is like, going to parties, and a white person sees me and is like "yo, yo, yo waddup man, yo yo yo you like rap?"
So, wait wait wait.... black people don't like it when us white folk do that?
"I'm for it so we can put Nuclear power plants up there, and then beam the power back to earth on a laser beam." ~ Whidden
the next time a white person introduces himself with "yo yo yo yo yo waddup man" I am going to reply with "howdy partner"
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
I happen to think it is a waste of time to bring up past atrocities against American Blacks.
We are free.
Many, many White Americans are standing side by side with Black Americans
I am not held down. I went to the same schools as white peeps, had the same opportunities as white peeps, have never experienced oppression.
The worst form of racism I have ever personally encountered is like, going to parties, and a white person sees me and is like "yo, yo, yo waddup man, yo yo yo you like rap?"
that is hardly oppression.
now I do realize that in some places in America black folks still face obstacles, but after 2 centuries of slavery, after decades of discrimination, after the fire hoses and the canines and the jailtime and the lynchings and the oppression that our grandfathers faced for our freedom and equality; WE ARE FINALLY FREE.
Rejoice, brother. We are free. God heard the cries of our ancestors and answered their prayers. Go to school. Study hard. Go to college. Make money. This is what our ancestors were fighting for. To sit here and continue to complain is disrespectful to them.
You have forgotten the face of your father.
At the Million Man Movement ( Oct 14), you can help Black people understand what world you,Powell,Rice,Thomas,Armstrong , the former qb of oklahoma and the other brain wash , expendible Black conservatives live in?
Your peers at this conservative website wouldn't agree with your statements.
Everyone should read this prophetic speech by Fredrick Douglass before they barbecue and watch another bias,romanticize, Holloywood produce version of some war where Black people's contribution is deleted.
just the FACTS:
07-03-2005 12:36 AM
will do
