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Today in a Fox News Exclusive, they interviewed an RN who cared for Terri around 1995. At that time she had Terry eating from a baby bottle, speaking saying things like Hi, Pain and a few other words. Should would sit in a chair in the lobby and smile at people as they came in.

She also checked Terri's vital signs often. She said Terri was doing very well then all of a sudden after a visit from her husband Michael she regressed. Upon taking her vitals and blood sugar she found her blood sugar to be ZERO. This could only mean one thing. She got a shot of insulin. So she looked and found needle marks on her and checked the waste basket and found a syringe hidden under other items in the basket.

She also said that Michael would say nasty things like When is that b**ch going to die.

She flat accused Michael of trying to kill Terri with insulin.



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Oh and the RN was fired, she also went to the police concerning Michaels actions.

Why is he getting away with this?



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Was she fired for reporting this?

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I heard about this..

Here is my problem with it...

She waited until NOW to say something? Where has this woman been all this time?

If she called the police...where's the police report?

I also heard that she said that he ripped stuff out of her medical records...as if! How does someone get their hands on someone else's medical records? This nurse left her records in the room? ALL of them? She never documented any of this...never TOLD any of this to anyone...Oh, until now.

Where does he get a syringe filled with insulin? Another police report never documented by either the police or the doctors? She obviously never reported it to the doctors...anyone wonder why? Maybe because it never happened?

I think this lady is trying to start something now because of this...obviously we know where she stands on this issue.

There is NO documentation of this ever happening...no records by her...no records by the police...no records from the doctors.

No records by anyone at all..but we are supposed to take her word for it without anything at all to back her words up?

Now...Im sorry...exactly who is the one with an agenda here?

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If this had happened, she would NOT have waited. This is all bs. I'm sorry... it's call, 'A little too late!" People will do ANYTHING to get famous, for 15 minutes, or to make a buck.


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I think the husband looks a little suspect in this. I mean, I've been watching him on CNN and all the interviews and he comes across as a real stubborn arse! Even worse than Terri's parents. I think he wanted her to die early on for the money and when he lost it all to the lawyers, is seeking vengance on Terri's parents because he can. I don't like this guy at all!

I truly feel for Terri and I wish we knew what her wishes were from her own testimony and I wish if she is even 1% with us that she has hope for improvement and possibly regain some of her brain activity. If she is 'really brain-dead" it is sad for us to keep her alive knowing that she is alive only to die. She has no real life and no function left. Her tube is out now 4 days (I think) and THAT'S suffering.

I don't know if I feel as strong as some of the posters here, but I do believe she should have been dealt with earlier. It's been 15 years of suffering for her, or 15 years of hanging on by a thread.


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When she contacted the police regarding this incident, the police supposedly asked her if she saw Michael stick the needle in her arm or under her breast. Since the answer was "no", the accusation was disregarded.

It should have been disregarded...how does one make a claim without witnessing something...a little hard dont you think? But dont you find it odd that it was on NO other report that she wrote? Nothing ever stated this. It doesnt take anything to write a report on what she thought...but she never did that.

She stated she found the syringe with remnants of insulin, along with the small insulin bottle, hidden in the trash in the room.

I know..but what did she do with it? Did she bring it to the police to have it tested for fingerprints? Did she tell anyone? Write a report about it? Another no I am assuming. How do we even know it ever really existed if she never documented it?

And we're supposed to take Michael's word on what Terri wanted to do with her life should she be in a vegetative state without anything at all to back her words up?

He isnt the only one who has stated that Terri said this...many of her friends also testified and even some of her other family members did as well...so yes I think we can take his words (along with theirs) over this woman. She didnt write ANYTHING down! Nothing at all!

Dont even tell me that NOW she decided to remember all this...no written documentation to back her up at all? Thats pretty unbelieveable considering what she said she saw...

A nurse that doesnt document anything? No..Im sorry, I dont buy it.





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If you read the article I posted here it's actually two different nurses who have reported seeing these things, not just one.


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Im sorry....but where have these women been all this time?

If they thought there was some abusive nature by him...they should have documented it and put it down in writing...to come out and now say that they witnessed this...I dont know...

Now we dont just have one nurse who didnt document anything, but now we have two.

If these women saw anything at all...they could have called a social worker...but they never did that.

It isnt like this happened in the 70's...this happened (so they say) in the 90's. People were well aware of the rights of patients then.

It doesnt take anything to make a call to the hospital social worker or doctors or staff....seems that if they did see something, they were negligent in their actions themselves.

I know..the one women said she went to the police....but she went there with an accusation but no proof to back it up. Who else did she tell? Obviously no one.

I mean who goes to the police without telling anyone at the hospital first? She didnt even tell the hospital administration? She just went to the cops with some flimsy story that couldnt be proved without telling another single person?




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It is in writing in a sworn affidavit which the courts have had the opportunity to see.
The affidavit was given before witnesses with perjury being the result of any mistatement.

And she told her immediate supervisor.
The police came to her house for a statement. And she was let go from her job the next day.


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It is in writing in a sworn affidavit which the courts have had the opportunity to see.
The affidavit was given before witnesses with perjury being the result of any mistatement.

And she told her immediate supervisor.
The police came to her house for a statement. And she was let go from her job the next day.


Well..okay thats the first I heard of that.

But I have a hard time believing that Schiavo had that much influence on a hospital. I just find that really odd. He isnt like rich or anything.

I dont know...if the courts saw it, they obviously didnt put much merit into it.

Thats the way I have to look at that.

I mean this woman saw nothing...she witnessed nothing. She couldnt prove anything.

Id like to know the real story as to why she was fired.

What is the hospital saying? Maybe we should wait to hear them before listening to her and taking that as the total truth.

Like I said..she never saw him do anything..well saw anything enough that had merit. As far as Im concerned anything she said was a flimsy argument that had no obvious standing to it whatsoever.




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By the way, in regard to the needle sticks, if you see track marks on a drug addict's arms does that mean that he is not a user because you didn't see him actually injecting himself?


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I think we don't know the whole story in this entire situation.
As much as the publicity etc....there are alot of unanswered questions.

Like why won't he divorce her?
He had another relationship one year afterward...he's sleeping with other women...why does he hang onto marriage...just so that she will die in dignity? I can't imagine he won't divorce her for religious reasons!

A 3 million dollar offer and he turns it down...all so that she can die in dignity?
I'm not buying that side of the story either.

It's a clusterfluegen to say the least.

According to this nurse, Michael would go into her room, shut the door and request that no one come in. That's when her blood sugar dropped and she found the needle of insulin. She also said that he was extremely intimidating with the staff all the time. His comments about "When will this b die" etc were made before staff and visitors.


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Why did it take 7 years for him to come to the realization that Terri had verbalized a "living will"?

Answer: Another family, insurance and inheritance.



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post #15  quote:

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Why did it take 7 years for him to come to the realization that Terri had verbalized a "living will"?

Answer: Another family, insurance and inheritance.


It was actually 5 years.

I believe he didnt have his new family until after that...but I dont know for sure.

No insurance money Im sure...what ever was there is most likely gone at this point in medical costs.

I dont know what the amount was of this inheritance she did recieve...was it before or after the heart attack? Is it even still there?

Anyhow...I thought you all might be interested in this.

Carla Iyers affidavit:

http://www.propertyrightsresearch.o...r_affidavit.htm

Those are just my thought Im expressing...I am certainly not in a position to argue about a he said/she said matter without seeing what is actually true and what isnt.

I cant just take one word over the other...Imean if the courts saw no merit...Im gonna go with their view.

Sorry...dont mean to offend anyone with that but thats just how I see it.



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