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Question Do we owe Black people in America an APOLOGY?? post #1  quote:



Gary Webb Video in his own words
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Gary Webb, the Pulitzer prize-winning reporter who broke the story of the CIA’s involvement in the importation of cocaine into the U.S., died December 10, 2004, reportedly from self-inflicted gunshots to the head.

It was a tragic end to a brilliant, and tragic, career.

In August 1996, the San Jose Mercury News published Webb’s 20,000 word, three-part series entitled Dark Alliance. The articles detailed the nexus between a California coke kingpin, CIA officials and assets and the Nicaraguan Contra army, whose funding had been cut off by an act of Congress in the mid-80s. Webb found evidence that the CIA had direct contact with the smugglers, knew the proceeds were going to fund the murderous Contras, and tried to cover it up when other law enforcement agencies began investigating. The most troubling aspect to the story was that the central player was no ordinary drug lord. He was the man many credit for popularizing crack, the highly addictive, smoke-able form of cocaine.

For many African-Americans, the story smacked of a grand conspiracy to destroy the black community. There were rallies in Watts and Compton, and heated discussions on black media across the country. Members of the Congressional Black Caucus called for a federal investigation. In November 1996, CIA director John Deutch appeared at Locke High School in South Central Los Angeles to personally answer to the allegations. He was met with loud jeers. It was a PR disaster.

So I guess all those stories about crack into black neighborhoods in the 80's to destroy the black family were true, and most thought black people were crazy to say the govt itself under Bush Sr was importing the crack cocaine into black neighborhoods!

1. Respected, Pulitzer winning reporter
2. His own newspaper does not deny his story
3. How do you shoot yourself twice with a shotgun in the head? was it really suicide?

All those conspiracies about the royal family plus the c ia being the kingpings of the world drug trade from people like Alex Jones do not sound as crazy anymore.

Alex Jone's site


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Good to see you again Doctor X

Funny thing....well, not that funny...
On the CIA website a few months ago I saw in their recruiting section for potential agents a complete denial of CIA involvement in drug trade...
they feel it's bad press and has given the CIA a black eye....

well, duh!!!

A great book on the subject:

Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA... by Reed & Cummings


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Re: Do we owe Black people in America an APOLOGY?? post #3  quote:

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So I guess all those stories about crack into black neighborhoods in the 80's to destroy the black family were true,




This has nothing to do with destroying black communities from the cocaine sales. The CIA made a big chunk of change off of the selling of cocaine. There is a profit to be made in drug dealings and letting this happen is still true. Most people do not know about the story...........


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YEAP, U DO OWE BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA AN APOLOGY. CUM ON, LETS B STRAIT HERE, U NO U DO.

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The CIA probably just wanted to launder the money and unforunately choose this poor course of action to do it.

The only question I have, who is the 'we' in 'Do we owe black people in American an apology'?

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Probably us "white folks" because of the whole slavery thing.


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But, how does the "slavery thing" connect with the CIA drug business? Is it that Doctor X believes that the drug trade is INTENTIONALLY targeting black neighbourhoods?

I got a question, if that's the case:

What happens when black drug dealers become the dealers of choice to white suburbia? Does that then mean that blacks owe whites an apology, because the drug trade becomes focused on the more affluent white neighbourhoods?

I think the focus should be on those who are in power and making those decisions, whether they are consciously deciding to target a specific ethnic group, or whether their decisions inadvertently lead to that end. In this case, if the CIA is profitting from allowing the trade in the U.S., then their directors should be held accountable. As to whether blacks would get an apology: the answer to that is a resounding no. In part because the CIA isn't quick to apologize, and also because any ethnic group demanding an apology is basically asking for political appeasement, which I think can be really stupid, even if it is empowering. After all, a public apology that is coerced is usually not heartfelt, and demeans BOTH sides when that's the case.



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You're right Sierradaddy, the CIA is not only not quick to apologize, but they adamantly deny the accusations in this instance...just like Operation Phoenix, MK-Ultra, Project Paperclip...ad nauseum.

MK-Ultra, for instance, went under Congressional investigation. Nothing really came of it...and a woman, Cathy O'Brien testified years ago for help to get her daughter out of a Tennessee mental institution (they were both subjects used in MK-Ultra)....but they were denied any further investigation into the matter for "reasons of national security."
Sick. Sick. Sick.


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i think... post #9  quote:

I think white ppl should be slaves and see how it feels j/k XDDDDDDDDDD

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Re: i think... post #10  quote:

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I think white ppl should be slaves and see how it feels j/k XDDDDDDDDDD



Me too!!!



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I wasn't a slave owner, and I've never treated another person differently because of their skin colour. Therefore, I owe no one an apology. Sorry... but I'm tired of being BLAMED for something that I've NEVER done.


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I wasn't a slave owner, and I've never treated another person differently because of their skin colour. Therefore, I owe no one an apology. Sorry... but I'm tired of being BLAMED for something that I've NEVER done.


Understandable mate. It's o.k.


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Actually, I don't think that it's "okay" because there are too many people who go around thinking that because of something that happened, YEARS ago, that had NOTHING to do with them, personally, others owe them an apology. And it's not just with the whole blacks being slaves. It's many different races, etc... and it's just pathetic. I really don't understand people with a mind set like that. This world is filled with so much hate... and what people really need to do is take a VERY long, and HONEST look in the mirror, and see what is within them.


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I really don't understand people with a mind set like that. This world is filled with so much hate...


Sad as it is mate, it's true. This world is filled with hate, anger, distruction, and many more things, this world flows with sin. But can we really blame others for what others do? For e.g, people hurt people, it's human, i can hurt you, you can hurt me, crap happens. Some people are just abit more sesitive than others, were all different. But come on, blacks, slavery, we don't know what it was like being black back in those days, I don't, you don't- it must of been really hard on them. They will always be mentaly damaged by this, sometimes have wounds that go skin deep. That is why sometimes they accuse innocents of guilt because they don't know any better. Sometimes that's where were supposed to come in, they don't know any better, but we should. I know it's unfair, i mean you didn't do anything, i didn't do anything but the finger gets pointed at us anyway, it's unfair, life has prooven to be, at times, unfair. What makes us stronger people is what we do when life's unfairness hits us, what do we do? What do you do??? It's up to you mate, no one else. Remember that.


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I know what it's like to be treated differently... I'm a lesbian. I know about prejudice... and it sucks. But, I don't hate others for it. I don't expect others to pay me back for the ways others have treated me, etc.... So, I might not know what it's like to be black, but I DO understand what they have gone through.


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