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LONDON, England (CNN) -- Britain's Prince Charles has announced he will marry his longtime lover, Camilla Parker Bowles, the woman partly blamed by Princess Diana for the breakdown of her marriage to the heir to the throne.

The wedding will be a civil ceremony in Windsor Castle on April 8, followed by a service of prayer and dedication in St. George's Chapel at which the Archbishop of Canterbury will preside.

Charles said he and his wife-to-be were "absolutely delighted" at their engagement.

When offered congratulations as he entered Goldsmiths' Hall in London for an engagement Thursday morning, he said: "Thank you very much, you're so kind." He added: "I am very excited."

On their marriage, Parker Bowles will be given the title of Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cornwall.

When Charles becomes king, Camilla will not be known as Queen Camilla but as the Princess Consort, according to Charles' office.

A statement on behalf of Queen Elizabeth II said: "The Duke of Edinburgh and I are very happy that the Prince of Wales and Mrs. Parker Bowles are to marry. We have given them our warmest good wishes for their future together."

Charles and Diana's two sons William and Harry said they were "delighted" at the announcement, a Clarence House aide told the UK's Press Association.

The princes want the couple to be happy, the senior official added.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who in 1997 mourned the death of the "People's Princess" Diana, said he was "delighted for the Prince of Wales and Camilla Parker Bowles, it's very happy news."

He said the Cabinet had sent congratulations and good wishes, adding: "We all wish them every happiness for their future together."

The announcement, four days before St. Valentine's Day, came as a surprise to many royal observers.

Charles' love life has been the cause of much speculation in Britain since the death of Diana in a Paris car crash, one year after the couple divorced.

Parker Bowles, 57, who divorced her husband Andrew in 1995, has been the significant love of Charles' life in recent years but has always faced an uphill struggle to rival his former wife in the public's affection.

Since then, and after several years of carefully choreographed appearances together, Parker Bowles has now been widely accepted as Charles' long-term partner.

She openly shares official rooms with the prince, 56, at his Clarence House residence in London.

On the death of the queen, Charles would become the titular head of the Church of England, and some Anglicans remain opposed to the remarriage of divorcees.

On Thursday Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, who heads the world's Anglicans, said he was pleased the couple had decided to take "this important step."

"I hope and pray that it will prove a source of comfort and strength to them and to those who are closest to them."

Parker Bowles will be stepmother to William and Prince Harry, second and third in line to the British throne, respectively.

Diana partly blamed her husband's relationship with Parker Bowles for the failure of her marriage. "There were three of us in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded," Diana said in a 1995 TV interview.

In 1994, Charles admitted in a TV documentary that he had strayed from his marriage vows, but insisted the infidelity happened only after the marriage was "irretrievably broken down, us both having tried."

It was widely assumed, but never confirmed, that Parker Bowles -- who has two children, Tom 30, and Laura, 24 -- was the other woman.

Hurdle
CNN's Richard Quest said the 2002 death of the Queen Mother, Charles' grandmother, had apparently removed the major hurdle to his marriage to Parker Bowles.

Friends of the prince welcomed news of his impending marriage. Conservative MP Nicholas Soames said he was "absolutely delighted."

"I'm very, very happy for both the Prince of Wales and Mrs. Parker Bowles. I think it's wonderful," he told PA.

A spokeswoman for Princess Diana's brother Earl Spencer told PA he would be making no comment on the announcement.

Diana's biographer, Lady Colin Campbell, said Camilla was a marked contrast to Diana, preferring simple country pursuits to a life of Hollywood-style glamor.

She said she expected a much simpler wedding to the major spectacle of Charles' wedding to Diana in London's St. Paul's Cathedral in July 1981.

Campbell said Charles' office Clarence House had mounted a long-running campaign to make marriage between the couple acceptable to the British people.

An opinion poll in June last year showed Britons would narrowly approve of a marriage between Charles and his partner.

A second marriage for the Prince of Wales would have the support of 32 percent of the British public, with 29 percent opposed, according to the Populus poll conducted for The Times newspaper.

However, it was revealed that most Britons -- 38 percent -- did not care whether Charles and Parker Bowles married.

'Journey'
Three years ago Prince Charles answered a question about whether he planned to marry Parker Bowles by saying, "You can't be certain about anything."

On an interview given to the UK tabloid Daily Mail to mark the 25th anniversary of The Prince's Trust, Prince Charles was asked whether he planned to remarry. He said: "Will I be alive tomorrow? Who knows what the Good Lord has planned. You can't be certain about anything. I don't know.

"I just think it's important, particularly as I get older, to think about the journey that's coming next."

Thursday's wedding announcement comes before the completion of the inquest into Diana's death.

Former head of the Metropolitan Police Sir John Stevens is still investigating the car crash in which she died in August 1997.

Charles' biographer, Penny Junor, told Reuters: "This will divide opinion and some people will think it is the end of the world. But once it has happened, people will accept it.

"He's very much in love with her and she with him. That's just the way it is."


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As head of the Church of England, should he be doing this? Thread open to talk of the marriage.

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When Charles becomes king, Camilla will not be known as Queen Camilla but as the Princess Consort, according to Charles' office.


some people before said that if Charles married he wouldnt be able to be king, i said this wasnt true ... but look ... he can, but Camilla cant be queen ... to all those who doubted the power of ME


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She's been his "consort" all along...the official title fits well.

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That is soooo true SWTT.

Panda, I never doubted your knowledge of the subject.


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I think it's since the Church changed the laws about divorcees being allowed to remarry that he's allowed to still be King.

There was a poll done in the UK after the announcement that said that 70% of the population didn't like the idea of them marrying. She is never going to be properly accepted by the British people, she will always be the "other woman" who ruined Charles' and Diana's relationship.

What would happen if they had kids?


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Panda - have the Princes officially said anything about the marriage?

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Are there any other Americans here that don't give two squirts about this?

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I would assume that ALL Americans, unless they're duel UK subjects, wouldn't give a toss about it.

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But I reeeeeeeeeeeeeally don't care.

A bird flying by the window is more interesting.

But there are some people in the U.S. that gush over this. I don't get what the draw is.

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There are other monarchies that are greater, this one is just the most famous.

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I could not give a damn reallly, I think we should get rid of the royal family. All I care about is one thing and that is how much is this wedding going to cost as no doubt we will probbaly be footing the bill in some form.

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Prince Charles' bride-to-be holds up the symbol of her new status for all the world to see


Appearing together at a Windsor Castle reception the couple were clearly thrilled that the issue of their relationship, which has been in limbo for many years, is finally resolved


As Charles' wife Camilla will become the Duchess of Cornwall. She will be only the third woman in history to hold the title. The first was Caroline of Ansbach, in 1714, and the other was Mary of Teck (above) who received it when her husband's father, Edward VII, ascended the throne in 1901

Camilla Shows Off Her Enagagement Ring

Newly engaged Camilla Parker Bowles was glowing as she showed off her dazzling engagement ring ? a royal family heirloom ? at a Windsor Castle reception on Thursday evening. The platinum-set jewel features a square-cut central diamond flanked by a further three baguette-cut stones.

Appearing for the first time in public as the Prince of Wales' intended, the 57-year-old divorcee revealed that Prince Charles went down on bended knee to ask for her hand. The couple are due to tie the knot in a civil ceremony followed by a blessing at St George's Chapel in Windsor Palace on April 8.

According to reports the announcement of the engagement was planned for Valentine's Day, but had to be brought forward after the news was leaked to a British newspaper.

At the reception Camilla, who wore a full-length fuchsia gown by Jean Muir for her first appearance as a bride-to-be, admitted: "I am only just coming down to earth". Her Prince, wreathed in smiles, was similarly enthusiastic and announced, "I'm very happy".

Camilla's marriage will make her the second highest-ranking women in the kingdom after the Queen. Upon her nuptials she will be known as Her Royal Highness, and will take precedence over both Princess Anne and Prince Edward's wife Sophie.

As Prince Charles' wife, she will become Duchess of Cornwall, only one of three women in British history to hold the title. The two previous Duchesses ? Caroline of Ansbach and Mary of Teck ? held the title only briefly before becoming Princesses of Wales, a title which Camilla will not hold.

When Charles inherits the throne Camilla will be known as the Princess Consort, although there is apparently sufficient leeway in the current arrangement to allow Camilla to become Queen should the public support such a move.

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It sounds funny, but I thought her ring would be bigger and better than that. I think J-Lo and Ben Affleck's engagement ring was better than that and they were super-crass about everything, you would think a Prince's engagement ring woudl outdo a movie star's ring.



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They want to be discrete. Ha.

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And now they could be screwed because top lawyers have found out that under English Law members of the Royal family cannot be married in a civil cermony ( the law clearly states that members of the Royal family are excluded from civl ceremonies). So they now have three options 1. Plead with the government to cahnge the laws ( no chance in hell) 2. get married in a civil cermony in Scotland 3. go for a full scale wedding which also would be very difficult.

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Prince and Camilla Receive Church Blessing

Prince Charles and his fianc?e Camilla Parker Bowles received the blessing of a local priest when they attended church on Sunday.

Braving a particularly cold and blustery morning, the newly engaged couple were amongst the last of the 34-strong congregation to arrive at St Lawrence's church in Didmarton, a picturesque village close to Charles' Highgrove estate.

Camilla wrapped herself in a green coat with matching lapels and beige knee high suede boots, while Charles went with a camel coloured tweed coat to keep out the crisp morning air.

During the service, the congregation offered up their prayers for a happy union and the Reverend Christopher Mulholland also gave a special blessing to Charles and Camilla.

"I prayed for their happiness together and that they may come to love one another more each day and more draw closer to God," said Reverend afterwards.

Apparently the 56-year-old heir to the throne already has his eye on a special wedding gift for his betrothed - a magnificent black pony stallion that goes by the name of Rosmarth Rompole and is a descendant of one of the Queen's own fell ponies.

The rare breed pony caught Camilla's eye recently when she saw it grazing in a field near Balmoral's Birkhall House ? where the couple is set to celebrate their honeymoon after their April 8 wedding at Windsor Castle.


Charles and Camilla braved the cold temperatures to attend Sunday church service in the picturesque village of Didmarton


The couple's official engagement photo shows a beaming kilt-clad Prince alongside his long-term partner


The couple have been busy overseeing renovations at Birkhall House, in Scotland, so that it is ready in time for their honeymoon in April


The civil wedding on April 8 will be followed by a service of prayer and dedication at St George's Chapel (pictured) in the grounds of Windsor Castle. It was here that Charles' younger brother Prince Edward married Sophie Rhys-Jones in June 1999

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The couple's official engagement photo shows a beaming kilt-clad Prince alongside his long-term partner


He DOES look really happy. Happier than I ever saw him in any photos with Diana.


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It's about time. It's a shame that Camilla and Charles were never able to marry before now. Perhaps Diana would be alive, had the rules of royalty been different. But then we probably wouldn't even know she existed.
Good for them.


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Charles and Camilla braved the cold temperatures to attend Sunday church service in the picturesque village of Didmarton



Personally, Im like HECK in this matter...I could care less.

I do however have to laugh at this caption.

They braved the cold weather??

What was it? Like 50 degrees outside? The priest isnt wearing a coat, and they arent like bundled up or anything.

What is considered cold out there?


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a particularly cold and blustery morning,


I gues sthat could mean anything, but in the UK you can pretty much be guaranteed that it's always cold and gloomy, so if they make of point of saying it was very cold, then they generally mean it was pretty bloody cold!


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I gues sthat could mean anything, but in the UK you can pretty much be guaranteed that it's always cold and gloomy, so if they make of point of saying it was very cold, then they generally mean it was pretty bloody cold!


Well..that may be true...but all I know is that when its pretty bloody cold out here...we dress pretty bloody warm, unlike they are dressed.


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I think he was smiling so much with her because Camilla is more on his level as far as looks. Diana was beautiful and dare I say sexy.......I think that he felt that she wasn't modest looking enough for him to be smiling so much in the pics.

Camilla, on the other hand looks more like what old England would accept as a queen(stuffier,modest) wheras Princess Diana was more glamorus.


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but Camilla cant become queen, and Charles knows it

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Charles and Camilla's Windsor Wedding Surprise

Prince Charles' plans to marry Camilla Parker Bowles have hit a major setback after it was discovered they cannot make their vows in Windsor Castle. The couple had announced their intention to tie the knot amid the grandeur of the Queen's favourite home, but it now seems they will have to make do with the rather more humble setting of the local town hall.

They were forced to abandon their original plans because of the laws surrounding licences for civil weddings. If the Royal Family were to stage such a ceremony at the Castle, they would have been legally obliged to allow members of the public to marry there for a period of three years thereafter.

Clarence House has also been forced to make the embarrassing admission that it had not thought to check whether there might be any legal problems. The Prince's aides had apparently been so busy looking into the issues surrounding Camilla's status as Princess Consort that they neglected to investigate the venue itself.

As things stand now the heir to the throne will say 'I do' at the Guildhall on Windsor High Street. While the venue is just a few hundred yards from the gates of the Castle, it also stands next to a John Lewis clothes store and the Three Tuns public house.

After the ceremony the newlyweds and their entourage will return to the castle, where the Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams will preside over a blessing in St George's Chapel.

The bride and groom would be forgiven for feeling a little disappointed at the turn of events, but their representatives were keen to point out that it is good news for the public. "People will be able to see the Prince and Mrs Parker Bowles arrive and leave, rather than them being behind the castle walls," explained a Clarence House spokesman.


Prince Charles and his long-time companion will make their vows on April 8. Clarence House has been forced to admit it did not check into the legal ramifications of staging the wedding in Windsor Castle


The heir to the throne and his future wife will wed in the Guildhall on Windsor High Street

Camilla Looks To Old Friends for Wedding Day Fashions

The design duo of Antonia Robinson and Anna Valentine has been chosen by Camilla Parker Bowles to design her wedding dress for her civil ceremony marriage to Prince Charles on April 8.

As Camilla has grown more confident as a public figure, she has also branched out with her fashion choices, adopting increasingly elegant styles. She first discovered Kensington-based Robinson Valentine in 2001 thanks to a friend's recommendation, and they have been vital in helping effect her style transformation.

One of the more notable Robinson Valentine creations the future Duchess of Cornwall has worn in recent years was the spectacular cream-coloured silk crepe evening gown with turquoise scarf and matching handbag she showed off at a charity ball at Somerset House in July 2002. Camilla later dazzled at the Fashion Rocks Prince's Trust benefit at the Albert Hall in October 2003, sporting a luxurious navy velvet gown with satin panels and sheer sleeves.

"Robinson Valentine are the smart label of choice for the younger country set," says John Davidson, fashion stylist for London Bride magazine. "They have a much more fashionable approach than many of their 'dressmaker' contemporaries and are very highly regarded in Camilla's circle, especially for their wedding dresses. They are like the English Vera Wang."

To top off the wedding outfit, Camilla has chosen the services of ? la mode milliner Philip Treacy to design her hat. Philip, whose bold and exquisite designs have decked just about every famous head in the world from royalty to rock stars, is another long-term fashion favourite of Camilla's.

"I'm delighted and honoured," said the Irish-born milliner after learning the news.


Camilla making a spectacular entrance in a Robinson Valentine creation at Somerset House in July 2002


The future Duchess of Cornwall opted for one of Philip Treacy's jaunty feather and bow hats at the wedding of her niece, Alice Elliot, to Luke Irwin in 2003

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Another dazzling entrance, this time at the Fashion Rocks Prince's Trust benefit at the Albert Hall in October 2003, with this luxurious gown by Kensington-based Robinson Valentine


As Camilla has grown more confident as a public figure, she has also branched out with her fashion choices


Camilla arriving at the Winter Gala at the Royal Opera House in November 2004 in a winter wow burgundy velvet Robinson Valentine creation

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It doesn't matter how many stylists and trainers and guru's and designers and make up artists, Camilla has, she will never ever have the beauty and grace that Diana had naturally.

Even in her 80's puffy ball gown wedding dress Diana looked stunning, even with all the plastic surgery Camilla has had, she will never look as good as Diana.


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Queen to Miss Royal Wedding

Prince Charles' parents won't be there to share the moment when he ties the knot with fianc?e Camilla Parker Bowles in April. The Queen and Prince Philip have confirmed reports they are not to attend the ceremony in Windsor's Town Hall, though Buckingham Palace insists their decision should not be interpreted as a snub.

"The Queen's prime concern is that the civil ceremony should be as low-key as possible, in line with the couple's wishes," explained a spokeswoman. "Clearly, if she were to attend, the occasion would no longer be low-key. She is attending the service of dedication and paying for the reception - this is not a snub."

Prince William and his brother Prince Harry will both be going along to the Guildhall on April 8, as will Camilla's children Tom and Laura. After the civil ceremony, the newlyweds will join the rest of the Royal Family for a blessing in St George's Chapel, before a reception in Windsor Castle.

Her Majesty's decision comes after a week of controversy in which the couple were forced to abandon their original plans to wed in Windsor Castle. Some legal experts have argued that members of the royal family can only marry in a church, but because of their previous relationships this is not an option for Charles and Camilla.

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I don't like Camilla, not many people do, the Queen included. But for her not to go to her own sons wedding is just revolting.

She says she doesn't want to make a fuss. It's going to be a big deal whether she turns up or not, her being there isn't going to make it less of a big deal. If anything; her refusing to go to the wedding is generating more press coverage than if she had just said nothing and gone along quietly.

How must Charles feel about this? No matter what her role in public, in private she is still his mother and to have your own mother say she is not coming to your wedding must hurt like a punch in the guts. If I was Charles, I'd tell her she'd better come or I would never speak to her again.


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I don't like Camilla, not many people do, the Queen included. But for her not to go to her own sons wedding is just revolting.


she is going to the church blessing afterwards, but is that enough? it is a civic service after all, and a monarch either hasnt or VERY rarely are seen at them. i'm not sure that if she went she would be the first, its just no the thing to do for a king or queen to be going to a civic service. amagin her going into the town hall (which is where the 'weding' is taking place, i think) all dressed up .... i think the queen is going to be a minute down the road, in a nice big castle, waiting for the blessing.


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So you think her going to her own sons wedding would be dragging her down to our level? That she's too high and mightly for "normal" things?

I just don't think it matters where it's being held and why, it's her sons wedding for God's sake. She should be there.


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