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Is Service Pack 2 really that bad? post #1  quote:



So we did the upgrade on the computer. My nephew tells me DO NOT use the Microsoft upgrade Service pack 2 because it is horrible. I am just curious as to what all the programmers here think about it.

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Have your nephew come around and describe what's so horrible about it. Ultimately you're going to HAVE to do the upgrade because it's full of security fixes and when the next "critical" update comes along, you're going to have to put all that in anyway.

Way I figure, you're already stuck in microsoft-land, so you may as well roll around in it and get it all over you.


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He heard from his friend who programs that it keeps a lot of software from running. I am a bit skeptical about the friend, so I wanted to know what real programmers think about it.

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SP2 is believed to plug many holes and open many others (as I have heard). If you use wireless, then I do not recommend it. It has reduced a lot of the leeway I had when connecting to a wireless network. Other than that, I have not faced too many problems, except my computer is now slightly slower.

M.


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Here's an email floating around our group at work from last August:

Just received an advisory about SP2 causing about 40 programs to suddenly stop
functioning. Most of them appear to be of no concern to home users, but on the off-
chance that you MIGHT be using one or more of them, you might want to visit:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842242

and check out the complete list of programs affected and what to do about it.


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Just port firewalling!? Come on, people!

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Sean, I doubt many home users know about how ports work, or even what they are.

M.


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Yeah, I just don't think people who don't understand such basic things should be advising others as to what to and not to do with their computer. It's like receiving psychological advice from a teenager.

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Yeah, so someone hears a glimmer about a problem with SP2 and assumes the worst.

When you get the facts from the source, Microsoft, it will put it in perspective.
Go to the source people, not some generic well, ya ok, you may as well, and
holes, holes, holes....2K had holes, XP probably does too.


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When you get the facts from the source, Microsoft, it will put it in perspective.


Yeah, Microsoft is so honest, so transparent, that you can't even see it is there.

M.


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People have problems, they publish white papers.
You could actually think they actually design a piece of crap OS on PURPOSE?
Well, I wonder that too.

How else do they know there is a problem until the consumer discovers it FOR them??? So, how else can they come up with a solution???


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You could actually think they actually design a piece of crap OS on PURPOSE?
Well, I wonder that too.


Do you know why Windows Me was released?

M.


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No, why?

And I expect a joke....

Oh and what in the world is windows me?
A product of the 70's "me" generation.
I give up, come on tell me.


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No, you are mistaken if you expect a joke. Windows Me was released because they could not complete Windows 2000 on time. So they made some really crappy changes to 98, put it in a new box, labelled it Windows Millenium and released one of the crappiest operating systems ever in Microsoft history.

M.


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I'm not expecting a joke, we just have to give the geeks a chance to show off!!!!!!!

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Windows Scanner and Camera Wizard


average people would use this, think, you get a camera, and use the wizard, and u find you have to maually open a port ...


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Yeah, like a portal to another world or something....cyberspace is soooooo overrated.

Get me through port 80 or bust....so I can waste some more precious time!!!!!!!!!! with people I don't even know!!!!


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Yeah, I just don't think people who don't understand such basic things should be advising others as to what to and not to do with their computer. It's like receiving psychological advice from a teenager.


Who gave advice?
I provided information.....probably assuming that others would understand....

Why a slam?

Both you and M got to show off a bit....at the expense of another poster.
It's what I would expect out of a co-owner of a forum. Not.
But it is what I have come to expect of you.


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I did not show off. There is a difference between correcting misleading ideas and concepts and flaunting one's skills.

M.


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What exactly did you correct? That Microsoft came out with a white paper on problems with SP2? It was information pure and simple. How is that "misleading ideas and concepts????"
I didn't explain the meaning and so somehow that makes me an amateur? How laughable is that.

Geeks can be so darned egotistical and it shows in this thread.

I am tired of the hostility on this discussion board and how it tries to turn me into being the same.

Rising above the manure.


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If you feel I am hostile, it is not my intention. I responded to your claim that Microsoft does not ship out a piece of crap on purpose, and I showed you that they can and they have.

If you want, here is one more example: If you remove Windows messenger from the Windows startup list (even using msconfig), the messenger process still runs when Windows loads up. Please don't tell me that Microsoft does not know that this happens.

Those who know me here know that I am above manure 99.9 % of the time. I know you don't care what I think, but maybe you should do some introspection yourself. Temet Nosce.

M.


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Who gave advice?
I provided information.....probably assuming that others would understand....


My message was not directed to you, young lady. You weren't addressed, nor even suggested - you've inserted yourself into the situation.

I was referring to the Friend of a Nephew and a Nephew, both of whom issued advice on technical action without technical expertise. My suggestion for people like that is to learn the limits of ther "expertise" before they decide they are qualified to hand out advice on the topic.

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But it is what I have come to expect of you.


Yeah, thanks. I have a real special place in my heart for you too, right at the top and to the left a little.


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Yeah, thanks. I have a real special place in my heart for you too, right at the top and to the left a little.


Oh man, that cracked me up.

M.


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I was referring to the Friend of a Nephew and a Nephew, both of whom issued advice on technical action without technical expertise. My suggestion for people like that is to learn the limits of ther "expertise" before they decide they are qualified to hand out advice on the topic.


I don't know about the friend of the nephew but it was the nephew who built Fuscia's computer, so I assume he has some knowledge.

M.


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Well Oh well another member down the drain. My my people are so touchy.

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My message was not directed to you, young lady. You weren't addressed, nor even suggested - you've inserted yourself into the situation.

I was referring to the Friend of a Nephew and a Nephew, both of whom issued advice on technical action without technical expertise. My suggestion for people like that is to learn the limits of ther "expertise" before they decide they are qualified to hand out advice on the topic.



Yeah, thanks. I have a real special place in my heart for you too, right at the top and to the left a little.


What? ?????
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My neighbor is coming over to fix a problem on my computer today. He knows more than my nephew so I will see what he thinks as well. He doesn't program, but he does networking and builds computers. I had no idea that this would cause such a ruckus in here. Perhaps when we get the second computer up and running later this year we will install SP2 on it and not on this one.

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I didn't mean to cause a ruckus, but some people just can't take criticism and correction.

M.


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Really, the ruckus was quite under control until SWTT took offense to something that had nothing to do with her...

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I think it was your creepy ass Gollum avatar Might as well go back to being a loveable funky monkey.

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