I've had it up to here with the ACLU and their anti-Christ crusade. Every where I turn some town, school, court is getting sued for having a Christmas display. Children in school can't sing Christmas songs or having anything to do with Christ. Stores are having HOLIDAY sales instead of Christmas sales. Even TV shows have taken Christ out of Christmas. One show in particular is Ellen with her Halla-day celebration.
A side note here is the school teacher who isn't allowed to teach about Americas Historical documents like the constitution and Declaration of Independance because they have the word Christ or God in them.
So here is my plan, my crusade, and that is to boycot any business or any TV show or anyone who wants to step on my right to celebrate Christmas by taking away those symbols.
I will not shop in a store that can't mention Christmas. Who can't say that they are having a Christmas Sale or only sells Holiday decorations. I will not send my child to school where they won't do a Christmas play or wont sing Christmas songs. And by God they just better not take away that Nativity from the court house. WHO DOES IT OFFEND???? WHY???
This is it folks. I'm taking back CHRISTMAS. Let's all take back Christmas.
Since when does the few overule the majority. There are more Christians in this country than any other religion. And I don't really believe that Jews don't want us to celebrate Christmas. And I don't believe that Muslims don't want us to celebrate Christmas. So who really doesn't want us to celebrate Christmas. Answer me this simple question.
Oh and the same goes for God. Stop taking God away too.
Ron Ackerman said this in post #1 :
And I don't really believe that Jews don't want us to celebrate Christmas. And I don't believe that Muslims don't want us to celebrate Christmas.
Actually, unfortunately, I bet there are Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, whatever who don't want us to celebrate Christmas.
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Ron Ackerman said this in post #1 : So are you with me on this?
Although I don't believe in God, I really don't see the problem with schools having Christmas based activities, etc. I think it only becomes a problem when you have a majority of non-Christian students. If a school has a lot of non-Christian students, then why not teach a little about Hannakah or Ramadam as well as Christmas?
It's not just Christmas though. We had a school over here not have the kids make Father's Day card last year because some of the children came from single parent familys, or heaven forbid same-sex parents families, and they didn't want to upset those kids. Back when I was young, we did it at school, and I gave my mum the Father's day cards we made. She loved them just as much as the Mothers day cards.
Society has been warped so that everything has to suit everyone and it's an impossible situation. You can never win if you're trying to please everyone.
They aren't allowed to teach religion. So they aren't being taught anything about Christmas. But singing Carols and having Christmas plays isn't teaching. Putting up decorations isn't teaching. It's allowing those the right to celebrate their beliefs. Christmas has been around for a great long time. The Christmas tradition has been in the United States since there has been a United States. Now I'm not saying that they shouldn't respect Hanuka or Ramadan or Kwanza or any other religious beliefs. Alll I'm saying is don't take away my belief. Let me celebrate the way we celebrated for centuries. And you know what, I wont complain about your beliefs.
Im not really a religious person...but I can never understand the big deal about having a nativity set at the courthouse or wherever....
I'm sure the courthouse wouldnt stop others from putting up symbols of Hanukkah if they wanted.
I just dont understand people freaking out over something like this...dont they have better things to do than to have a hissy fit over a nativity scene that sits outside for two weeks?
Of course thats just my opinion....I could be wrong. (Dennis Miller)
"You might be the toughest little whacker. . .but in my world, you're about as worrisome as a cloudy day." (Dutch Dooley)
don't you just love how ACLU-freaks complain about Christians shoving their agenda in people's faces, and then turn around and shove there's in everybody elses?
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
This is happening here now as well Tony Blair has taken the word Christmas out of his offical Chrismas crad so as not to offend people. Truth is that most people are not offended by Christmas I think it is just a few people that have to much power. You get people who are Jews, Muslims etc who are saying that they dont get offended by Chritsmas and dont see what the fuss is about in removing the word Christmas from everything. The people over the road from me are Muslims and they wish me a merry Christmas every year because they have respect for evryone to celbrate thier relgious festivals, thats the way it should be.
i don't really understand why that woman took prayer or anything that had to do with "religion" out of schools anyway.
see it all happened a long time ago when this one woman took all that stuff out of school im pretty sure yall older people heard about it but anyways
she took it out of school, but i dont understand why because students like me need prayer in school. prayer goes a long way and it can change alot of things.
and about the putting "christ" back in christmas thing im with you on that.
i just looked up the word christmas and it says," a christian feast commemorating the birth of jesus. that means to me that its not all about how much money you get or the clothes or wat ever u want or wat u give somebody else, i mean dont get me wrong its nice to get that stuff but that is not wat it is all about.
its about the birth of our lord and savior
the man who died on the cross for our sins
because of him we are alive sitting, standing, wat ener you are doing right now he is the reason.
that is why i cant understand those people who claim they dont believe in him
im not making a big deal im just speaking my mind im mean that is what this site is for aint it?
well how can u say you dont believe in something?
you have to have the acknowledgement that it is there to say that it aint, to say that u dont believ in it right?
that's something to think about
well guys ive said wat i had to say so now im going back to class
bye
im here for everybody but i will only tell you the truth
nicoleb said this in post #9 : i don't really understand why that woman took prayer or anything that had to do with "religion" out of schools anyway.
see it all happened a long time ago when this one woman took all that stuff out of school im pretty sure yall older people heard about it but anyways
she took it out of school, but i dont understand why because students like me need prayer in school. prayer goes a long way and it can change alot of things.
and about the putting "christ" back in christmas thing im with you on that.
i just looked up the word christmas and it says," a christian feast commemorating the birth of jesus. that means to me that its not all about how much money you get or the clothes or wat ever u want or wat u give somebody else, i mean dont get me wrong its nice to get that stuff but that is not wat it is all about.
its about the birth of our lord and savior
the man who died on the cross for our sins
because of him we are alive sitting, standing, wat ener you are doing right now he is the reason.
that is why i cant understand those people who claim they dont believe in him
im not making a big deal im just speaking my mind im mean that is what this site is for aint it?
well how can u say you dont believe in something?
you have to have the acknowledgement that it is there to say that it aint, to say that u dont believ in it right?
that's something to think about
well guys ive said wat i had to say so now im going back to class
Ron, I won't shop at stores that took away the "Merry Christmas" signs and replaced them with "Seasons Greetings". I am very tired of the ACLU complaining about Christian things. There are bigger problems in the world than a Nativity scene. They should worry about the homeless, the abused children in the world, not how so many of us celebrate the holidays.
I will say that I was shocked after all the press about no mention of Christmas in the schools, to find out that my son learned "Feliz Navidad" in school and they learned how to play the dreidel. You would think in California it would be a no no. I was pleasantly surprised.
I completely agree, I don't see what the big deal is. It is Christmas for heavens sake... it's not like it's Merry Murder day! From now on no more shopping at evil " Happy Holidays" stores. Honestly Christmas has suffered enough, it has been twisted to the point where people think that the point of christmas is giving and getting gifts and spending time with family. The gift has already been given, and spending time with the family is nice, but not the point. The point is to give thanks for the birth of Jesus. The point is we want to celebrate the miracles that happened that night, and the miracles that would come from it in later years to come. Poor christmas here has been mutliated by greedy money making businesses, and now they want to do away with Christmas completely!
*sigh* Poor christmas...
Won't you go away
and leave me till the time of dying days
stand here by my side
and watch the river flood and pass us by
now.... while I 100% recognize the hyprocracy of ACLU and would delight in their demise as much as any of you, let's not forget that Christmas is not a Christian holiday...
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
nowhere in the Bible is Christ's birth commanded to be recognized.
not that there is anything wrong with celebrating Jesus's birth.
but no one know's when the heck Jesus of Nazereth's birthday was anyway.
Eastern Orthodox Christmas is in Janurary. Catholic CHristmas is in December. Non-Western Christians do not observe "Christmas."
It was created when Roman Paganism was mixed with "Christianity" when it became the "official religion" of the Roman Empire.
Which actually persecuted true Christians.
Now... I am not trying to say that celebrating Christmas is blasphemous... and I think it is unconstitutional for the ACLU to try to ban it.
"There shall be NO LAW passed regarding religion."
that means no laws supporting relgion, and equally, no laws banning it.
but it's not "Christian"
for some odd reason, while the word "Ganya" was still just a thought-dropping in my head, I thought it'd only be four letters. But apparently it's five. yep.
"Happy Holidays" isn't neccessarily anti-Christmas though. I take it as including Thanksgiving and New Years as well as Christmas and Hannakah and whatever else is going on (Festivus ).
12-09-2004 06:00 AM
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