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If you look in your Bibles at genesis. God made only Adam&Eve... They had only Cane and Abel.. What does that mean? They had to have sex with each other in order to reproduce.. Everything that happened in the Bible was right back then and there was nothing wrong with it?? How do you know it's wrong??? You really don't! back in those days having sex with family members was the only way to reproduce. Well whose to say it's wrong? Show me that in the bible! back in the bible days some men had many many wives.. Does this mean that having mutliple wives is wrong? or does it mean we just feel like it's nasty? I don't understand if it's wrong, right, or just insane! Can someone help me on this?? arial

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That was a cultural thing. Back then people believed that was right. Though nowhere does God say that it was right. But he does say that it is wrong.

Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. Hebrews 13:4

"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"--but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body." 1 Corinthians 6:13

It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable. 1 Thessalonions 4:3-4

In order to be pure that means you must only have one partner. And do you really think that sleeping with a family member is considered holy?
And if still want to read further about this matter check out 1 Corinthians 7


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I don't have the quotes to prove anything, but I believe somewhere in Genesis Abraham impregnated his daughter (s) in order to increase the male population. It was after reading that that I decided the Bible was morally corrupt and not something I wanted to put too much faith in.

If you have faith in what the Bible says, I hope you're not implying that incest isn't wrong.

Whether from a religious standpoint or moral standpoint, incest is sick and twisted no matter how you slice it.


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Biological and genetic standpoint too.

M.


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Biological and genetic standpoint too.

M.


Agreed!


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This thread actually scares me...

Why is someone asking this question??

Please tell me they arent looking for approval to...to...

UGH...never mind!


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This thread actually scares me...

Why is someone asking this question??

Please tell me they arent looking for approval to...to...

UGH...never mind!


Honestly I thought the same thing when I read this thread. Couldn't help but wonder


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This thread actually scares me...

Why is someone asking this question??

Please tell me they arent looking for approval to...to...

UGH...never mind!



Yes! It's very disturbing!



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Hmmm, how about making the gene pool deeper .

YES it is absolutely WRONG.


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I don't have the quotes to prove anything, but I believe somewhere in Genesis Abraham impregnated his daughter (s) in order to increase the male population. It was after reading that that I decided the Bible was morally corrupt and not something I wanted to put too much faith in.


Give me a few days, and I will personally prove to you that Abraham did not impregnate his daughter. I am working on reading through the whole Bible, and I have already completed the whole of Genesis. I believe you are mistaken, and I think I know where you got confused, so please give me a few days to double-check that what you say happened didn't happen.

Sincerely,
Criston


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if it was acceptable to have sex with your family members, and you did it, you could come down with the biggest case of heebie jeebies that would eventually lead to death.

see, we're trying to protect you from yourself.

ugh, just typing this made me shiver three times


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Give me a few days, and I will personally prove to you that Abraham did not impregnate his daughter. I am working on reading through the whole Bible, and I have already completed the whole of Genesis. I believe you are mistaken, and I think I know where you got confused, so please give me a few days to double-check that what you say happened didn't happen.

Sincerely,
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Hi Criston,

I guess I was wrong. All this time I thought I read that Abraham had an incestuous relationship with his daughter.

It turns out it was ONLY his sister, the daughter of his father. Does that make incest more acceptable?




"Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother..."

Deuteronomy 27:22

"And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter...it is a wicked thing...."

Leviticus 20:17

Yet Abraham marries his father's daughter and remains God's favorite:


"And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife."
Genesis 20:11-12


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Genesis 19:32-36 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.


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it's okay to have sex with your family member if they are your spouse and only related by marriage.

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This thread IS creepy...however...

It is legal to marry your cousin, even a first cousin, in some states. A cousin is a family member. And, if the family member in question was adopted, or a step-sibling, there would be no blood relation so, I guess that would be ok. It's still creepy from my standpoint but, I it wouldn't be incest.


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How do you know it's wrong??? You really don't! back in those days having sex with family members was the only way to reproduce. Well whose to say it's wrong? Show me that in the bible! back in the bible days some men had many many wives.. Does this mean that having mutliple wives is wrong? or does it mean we just feel like it's nasty? I don't understand if it's wrong, right, or just insane! Can someone help me on this??


That only happens in the RED STATES! Shortage of new genes.


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it's okay to have sex with your family member if they are your spouse and only related by marriage.


Amen.

M.


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Hi Criston,

I guess I was wrong. All this time I thought I read that Abraham had an incestuous relationship with his daughter.

It turns out it was ONLY his sister, the daughter of his father. Does that make incest more acceptable?




"Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother..."

Deuteronomy 27:22

"And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter...it is a wicked thing...."

Leviticus 20:17

Yet Abraham marries his father's daughter and remains God's favorite:


"And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife."
Genesis 20:11-12


MORE INCEST

Genesis 19:32-36 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.







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What's so funny becker?

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TWII...being sarcastic. Did you read her previous posts?

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Course I did. Oh well, just ignore me........

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Course I did. Oh well, just ignore me........




I can never ignore you Misty....


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I can never ignore you Misty....


No worries, my friend. Now you're making us go off topic


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It's interesting to look at the incest problem from a secular point of view. Incest isn't worse than gay sex. There are two adults involved in sexual relationship by their own free will. This harms no-one.
Genetical things matter. But what if an incest case is about sex only, without conceiving a baby?
Next, if there's even a baby, does a incestical conception leads to an ill fetus with greater probability than a more usual late pregnancy?


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Genetical things matter. But what if an incest case is about sex only, without conceiving a baby?
Next, if there's even a baby, does a incestical conception leads to an ill fetus with greater probability than a more usual late pregnancy?


I think if it's a closer relation than your cousin, then gentically it can cause problems for any child.


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and it is just creepy.

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Bob Dole can't take reading this thread. Bob Dole shivers everytime there is a new post.

Bob Dole doesn't know why he's in this post or what he has to do with anything. Bob Dole just felt like making an appearance.


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Bob Dole will need Viagra after reading this thread.

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well, do ya sherry?


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Since I am a girl, the only wood I have is chopped up in the back yard.

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