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This is an article that shows we the USA is cooperating with Briton and is looking forward to mending fences across the World.
We shall have views on Palestine ,Israel, Spain and all countries in the post Election efforts to unite us all.


Lets start anew and keep our selves civil shall we?

Bush seeks bigger U.S. role in world
President, Blair vow
to ‘finish the job’
in Iraq, Middle East
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 6:08 p.m. ET Nov. 12, 2004WASHINGTON - Safely re-elected to a second term after a campaign in which the war was front and center, President Bush is moving aggressively to look beyond the turmoil in Iraq and assert U.S. influence in other parts of the world, particularly Europe, administration officials said Friday.


The president announced during a news conference with British Prime Minister Tony Blair that he would travel to Europe as soon as possible after his second inaugural, on Jan. 20.

“In my second term, I will work to deepen our trans-Atlantic ties with the nations of Europe,” Bush told reporters at the White House. “We must apply the combined strength and moral purpose of Europe and America to effectively fight terror and to overcome poverty and disease and despair, to advance human dignity and to advance freedom.”

The goal, Bush said, would be “to remind people that the world is better off — America’s better off, Europe is better off — when we work together.”

A senior Bush administration official told NBC News on condition of anonymity that the trip was scheduled in just the last few days as part of an “intense period” of outreach to the European community.
“A re-elected Bush administration is sending the signal we want to work with Europe,” the official said. Bush was likely to visit Brussels, Belgium, in February for meetings at either the European Union or NATO or both, the official said. In another step aimed at mending fences, Bush’s national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, held an hour and a half of talks with her French counterpart, Maurice Gourdault-Montagne.

Fences to mend
Talk of a trans-Atlantic rift has persisted long after the debate over the Iraq war in the United Nations.

Relations with Germany have improved, and U.S. ties with Central and Eastern European countries are generally warm. But the perception that relations overall remain sour are fueled by Bush’s low popularity levels in Europe, France’s continued skepticism of U.S. power and the election of a socialist government in Spain earlier this year that led to a pullout of the country’s 1,300 troops in Iraq.

Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero has even had a difficult time getting a call through to Bush to congratulate him on his re-election.

Even so, the administration has sent several signals in recent days designed to heal the divisions.

Within 10 days of Election Day, Bush has met publicly with two foreign visitors, both from Europe: NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer on Wednesday and Blair on Friday. Secretary of State Colin Powell also announced an ambitious round of fence-mending meetings during European travel scheduled for early next month.
Blair heartily endorsed Bush’s view. “I think there is a tremendous desire and willingness on the part of certainly our partners in the European Union to make sure that that alliance is strong,” he said.

As part of that effort, two other key items were on the discussion table for Blair’s visit: Iran and global warming.

Blair wants Bush to allay European fears that the United States would take military action against Iran. The United States wants Iran dragged before the U.N. Security Council to face sanctions, claiming it is trying to build nuclear weapons. Iran contends that its nuclear program is peaceful and aimed at generating energy.

Blair, meanwhile, would also like Bush to soften his rigid opposition to the Kyoto international climate treaty, which goes into effect early next year without U.S. participation. Expressing concern about U.S. jobs, Bush is holding fast to his rejection of the treaty.



This is a good place to start doncha think?
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Will we ever be able to call The French Allies?

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Ijust read an article concerning Bush's efforts to mend fences with the European and Middle East countries, He Will start by making his First trip after the election to Europe.

With the affiliation of Tony Blair both leaders said they would use the coming months to mobilize global support for a Palestinian leadership committed to democratic reform.and fighting terrorism.
The prodding of Tony Blair to put more energy into the Middle east overtures White House campaign to mend ties with Europe that were frayed by the Joint US British decision to invade Iraq over the opposition of long time allies.

Bush's trip will probably be in February. He will visit Brussels, Belgium.headquarters of NATO and the European Union bu this other stops have not been announced.

The purpose of the trip is to remind people that the world is better off when we work together.

The death of Arafat may open the doors to to a resolution to the Arab- Israeli conflict.
Bush said he believed there was a good chance that there will be a Palestinian state established within his four year term of office.
He said he believed that it was in the interest of the world that a truly free state develop.
With the death of Arafat and the mourning of his passing over, there will be an opportunity to open the doors to a NEW DIPLOMATIC ANSWER FOR THE MIDDLE EAST..

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A new tack post #4  quote:

It is good to hear that our President will try to mend broken fences.

Much can be accomplished with world cooperation.

May we see peace between Israel and the Palestinians.

With worldwide pressure exerted upon Iran...the nuclear issue may be resolved peacefully.

The same may hold true for North Korea.

It would be pleasant to see those things bear fruit.

I think we can all agree on that.





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post #5  quote:

Yep......kind of...

......but why do I have a strange feeling that Little Geoge`s next crusade will be Teheran ??

If Iran and N.korea are a nuclear threat...then so are China, India, Pakistan among other " friendly " countries... Do you think anybody will face them ? Pakistan maybe....but the others ? Highly unlikely


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So, what exactly and specifically did we do to Europe to offend them in the first place?

(Outside of the Revolutionary War in the 18th century.)


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post #7  quote:

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aude sapere said this in post #5 :
Yep......kind of...

......but why do I have a strange feeling that Little George`s next crusade will be Teheran ??

If Iran and N.Korea are a nuclear threat...then so are China, India, Pakistan among other " friendly " countries... Do you think anybody will face them ? Pakistan maybe....but the others ? Highly unlikely


Iran will be dealt with Spanish one who writes with heart.

Do you think we are also stupid that we are going to let Iran get away? No we can use pressure on them intensely to bring them in line. They are not a force to reckon with the world.
We need to extend our hands in peace to our allies and mend the fences we broke as a result of Iraq in order to succeed.
Iran is like Libya they will cower in the dust and surrender with no fighting as Kadifi has done.

As far as North Korea we already have China as a liaison to the reckless Kim Jong( who thinks he is Elvis reincarnated)
China can work with him for all of our safety as they have a similar ethnic background.

Actually I am more worried about the terrorist that exist all over the world right now as outlined in a recent Time magazine article.
They are all over the world and we here in the Us do not have enough protection in our airports as evidenced by no checking on Cargo shipments/ We best get on the ball and instead of making little old ladies take off their shoes to be examined take on the Cargo shipments into our country.
Israel has this down to a science not us.
I believe they have air Craft with ability to see into any aircraft that enters there fly zone or attempts to land.
We are behind in this and personally speaking New Orleans is an important port town and we could very well be high on the list of terrorists.
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post #8  quote:

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sowhatsthetruth said this in post #6 :
So, what exactly and specifically did we do to Europe to offend them in the first place?

(Outside of the Revolutionary War in the 18th century.)


Well now that you bring it up I am sure you will get a response.
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I doubt it. Because there really is nothing we have done specifically to Europe in the past four years.

Maybe our gas guzzling SUV arguement, but we could say that about any other developed industrialized country. Maybe not specifically CO2 and hydrocarbon emissions from SUV's, but factories, oil refineries, etc across the globe also contributing to these emissions.

And this wouldn't be a specific example, because our hydrocarbon and CO2 emissions are affecting the planet, not just specifically Europe.

Come on my friendly Europists, what have we specifically done to you????


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hum....I don`t think there`s any problem between Europe and the Us. There cannot be any serious problem. Don`t forget all of us, in the eyes of an Asian o Middle Eatern country, represent the " Occidental Way of Living ". There are better or worse moments in diplomatic and commercial relations. But, speaking for myself, I don`t really see a serious problem.

We restarted a new thead to try and converse like adults. During the Clinton Admin. Europe and the US lived one of their best years. Things change in politics and our govs. have to adapt to it.

E.g : Berlusconi in Italy is not one of the most popular leaders in Europe, partially because of his megalomaniac-obssesive-excentric-egocentricity, partially because of his cut-throat capitalistic views....That doesn`t mean Europe has tensions with Italy.....same with the US...

Spain is now living a transition period, where we don`t know whether they guy we have leading the country will be able to live up to the expectations of his surprising election. Benefit of doubt I guess. Aznar touring in the US, is not doing interior politics any favour.

France, and I was born there so I can speak with knowledge of cause, you never really know which direction they will adopt. Not big enough to create a trend, not small enough to be discarted.

Europe now has bigger matters to be concerned about with the new members entry. It cannot be too present in the middle eastern scene. By historical alliances, both continents ( notice that I don`t say we ) are bound to stay allies, despite of the ups & downs.

It is you who create the adversity SWTT....There is nor can be any major diplomatic conflict, because Europe is not a country...with a single voice o government.....that`s the huge mistake you guys do by always quoting europe as a whole.....

The issue here is to use both continents` diplomatic, political and commercial influences and ties to pacify the exisiting conflicts instead of opening new fronts.
Iran and N.Korea shouldn`t even be touched right now......But I think the Bush administration has it in the agenda. Inevitably Blair will follow and chances are they will create a new instability in the area.

One of the biggest tension is the US`s constant pressure to include Turkey in Europe- It`s an absolute madness in all senses, that however, prooves to you what many of us ( Ethical, Preston, Sean and myself > ) are trying to make you understand. The US`s CONSTANT intervention in other`s affairs in it`s own benefit or opinion without assessing the consequences. On the other hand you do not TOLERATE the slightes comment on your own matters.....what do you call that ? See the rif-raf I had with USA1 in Unfit for Command thread.

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post #11  quote:

I like your style though SWTT.....Us naive policy at it`s best !!!!!!

" He was already dead when I got there !!! He jumped 17 times on my knife, backwards !!!!! ".........lol

That`s what happens when 4.000 years of history are confronted to 228.....Your view is generated by that and I understand it is hard to learn. But you have to try......and change your scope SWTT


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I am emailing George Bush and letting him know we should leave everyone alone, but what would then happen aude?

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AS,
I thought we were going to have a civilized conversation.
So knock off the baby talk or I will not engage, capiche?
If you want to discuss without name calling ok, otherwise you are not worth my time, capiche?


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We will have a civilized conversation if one does not get all up tight at what another says. So what? There are answers for us to learn from our friends in other lands, We need to stop being so sensitive and listen, who knows we may even learn a thing or two.

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Comprende, AS?
Comprende?


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