Early in the 2004 presidential campaign, Kerry boasted of having foreign backers. When a prospective voter asked who they are, Kerry arrogantly replied that their identity is "my business, not yours." Subsequently, Kerry received overt endorsements from communist North Korea (Kim Jong Il), communist Cuba (Castro), Al Jazeera (Al Qaeda's news agency), Palestinian terrorist Yassir Arafat, avowed anti-Semitic former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamed, and most importantly theocratic Iran. (E-1)
One by one the foreign backers came forth. The latest foreign backer is bin Ladin himself.
Compare Al Qaida tape (below) from the previous day (10-28-04). Obviously the two messages are inter-related and seem to threaten: "Defeat Bush or suffer the consequences!" This technique actually worked in Spain, defeating America's ally Asnar. It has worked before with others. However, the most recent attempt was defeated when the people of Australia had the good sense to re-elect America's ally, John Howard, disregarding the warnings of Kerry's sister Diane (working in tandem with Al Qaeda) that terrorism would follow.
Why is Osama supporting Kerry? To ask the question is to answer it. Consider what Osama has lost: (1) his ally, the Taliban, and his home base, Afghanistan (overthrown by President Bush); (2) his ally, Saddam, who trained the 9-11 terrorists (overthrown by President Bush) and who provided a home base to Al-Zarqawi (being hunted down by President Bush); (3) his ally, Libya (which is now cooperating with President Bush); (4) 75% of Al Qaeda's leadership (captured or killed by President Bush); (5) his own ability to move around under the reactive approach to terrorism (the Clinton-Kerry "law-enforcement" approach) now superseded by the proactive approach (President Bush's military "war on terrror"). Now Osama is encircled, on the run, living in caves, fearful of being betrayed by those around him.
No wonder Al Qaeda's allies (Al Jazeera, Iran, etc.) had already endorsed Kerry. The stage was set for Kerry's last foreign backer to emerge -- bin Ladin himself. The technique in use is the same as that which worked in Spain, and which Kerry's sister unsuccessfully tried in Australia against John Howard. That technique is, of course, the threat of terrorism.
Which way will America go in the November 2 election? Will it be the path of appeasement (a "more sensitive," "global test" type approach) or the path of liberation (taking the fight to the enemy and planting free market democracy in the Middle East)? In WWII Britain had to make a similar choice: between Neville Chamberlain's "peace in our time" and Winston Churchill's determination to fight the enemy to victory. Today the choice is between Kerry's reactive "global test" approach and President Bush's proactive approach in assembling a "coalition of the willing" to root out terrorism in its home base.
Bin Ladin Attacks President Bush Using Kerry's Propaganda
John Kerry, Michael Moore, and Democrat Party themes used: (1) implication that withdrawal of troops from Muslim countries would bring peace or temporary truce; (2) claim that Bush is misleading American people; (3) claim that continuation of Bush policy would lead to new terrorist attack; (4) blames US alliance with Israel for decision to attack WTC; (6) claim that Florida 2000 election was falsified; (7) claim that Bush stayed too long in school while planes hit WTC; (8) claim that Bush motive in Iraq is to steal Iraqi oil.
Message broadcast over Al Qaeda's Al Jazeera network (which endorsed Kerry).
Accusing President Bush of "misleading" the American people, al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden made the first direct admission of responsibility for the 9-11 attacks in a video aired today by the Arab television channel Al-Jazeera.
Osama bin Laden in video aired by Al-Jazeera
The video, shot in front of a brown background, was the first footage of bin Laden since a tape broadcast by Al-Jazeera in September 2003 showed him descending a mountainside and calling for jihad.
In the new video, bin Laden says, "We decided to destroy towers in America" because "we are a free people ... and we want to regain the freedom of our nation."
The text can be read here </news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41192>
Bin Laden asserted President Bush has been "misleading" the American people since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York City and the Pentagon.
The terrorist leader said the attacks would have been less severe if Bush had been more alert.
"We had agreed with Mohammed Atta, may Allah bless his soul, to carry out all of the operations within 20 minutes ... and we didn't think at all that the commander in chief of the United States would leave all of these citizens fighting for their lives," bin Laden said, according to a translation.
Mentioning the Democratic presidential candidate, bin Laden said to the American people, "You're security is not in the hands of Bush, Kerry or al-Qaida. It is in your hands."
An audiotape broadcast in April purportedly from bin Laden offered European nations a three-month truce if they would withdraw troops from Muslim nations.
Last week, former Navy Secretary and 9-11 commissioner John Lehman said the U.S. knows where bin Laden is hiding but can't reach him </news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41059> because he is in a region of Pakistan controlled by Islamic extremists opposed to President Pervez Musharraf.
Lehman said the terrorist leader is in South Waziristan in the Baluchistan Mountains of Pakistan's Baluchistan region.
"There is an American presence in the area, but we can't just send in troops," Lehman told the San Bernardino Sun. "If we did, we could have another Vietnam, and the United States cannot afford that right now."
Secretary of State Colin Powell also has stated recently he believes bin Laden is in that area.
Transcript
A transcript of today's Al-Jazeera presentation was provided by the Drudge Report <." target=_blankhttp://www.drudgereport.com>. <http://www.drudgereport.com>
Newsreader: A new message from Bin Laden to the American people about the reasons and resulats of the 9/11 attacks.
Newsreader 2: The head of AL Qaeda says the continuation of US policy will lead to the repetition of what happened.
Male presenter: The head of AL Qaeda organization directed a message to the American people and this video and audio apearence in this tape which Jezeera required for the first time for two years. In the beginning of his message, he spoke about the reasons why they chose the US to execute 9/11..
OBL: You American people, my speech to you is the best way to avoid another conflict about the war and its reasons and results. I am telling you security is an important pillar of human life. And free people don't let go of their security contrary to Bush's claims that we hate freedom. He should tell us why we didn't hit Sweden for instance. Its known that those who hate freedom don't have dignified souls.like the 19 who were blessed. But we fought you because we are free people, we don't sleep on our oppression. We want to regain the freedom of our Muslim nation as you spill our security, we spill your security.
Female presenter: Bin Laden spoke for the first time about the main reasons he thought of executing Sept 11 attacks, confirming that the Israeli operation in Lebanon was the first incident where he thought of it.
OBL: I am so surprised by you. Although we are in the fourth year after the events of sept 11, Bush is still practicing distortion and misleading on you, and obscuring the main reasons and therefore the reasons are still existing to repeat what happened before. I will tell you the reasons behind theses incidents.
I will be honest with you on the moment when the decision was taken to understand. We never thought of hitting the towers. But after we were so fed up, and we saw the oppression of the American Israeli coalition on our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind and the incidents that really touched me directly goes back to 1982 and the following incidents.
When the US permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon with the assistance of the 6th fleet. In these hard moments, it occurred to me so many meanings I cant explain but it resulted in a general feeling of rejecting oppression and gave me a hard determination to punish the oppressors. While I was looking at the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it came to my mind to punish the oppressor the same way and destroy towers in the US to get a taste of what they tasted, and quit killing our children and women.
Male presenter: Bin Laden considered in his message that the results of Sept 11 were successful in his opinion and as a reason of that, he said that the similarity between the administration of Bush the father and the arab regimes said Bush learned so much from them during his visits.
OBL: We didn't find difficulty dealing with Bush and his administration due to the similarity of his regime and the regims in our countries. Whish half of them are ruled by military and the other half by sons of kings and presidents and our experience with them is long. Both parties are arrogant and stubborn and the greediness and taking money without right and that similarity appeared during the visits of Bush to the region while people from our side were impressed by the US and hoped that these visits would influence our countries. Here he is being influenced by these regimes, Royal and military.
And was feeling jealous they were staying for decades in power stealing the nations finances without anybody overseeing them. So he transferred the oppression of freedom and tyranny to his son and they call it the Patriot Law to fight terrorism. He was bright in putting his sons as governors in states and he didn't forget to transfer his experience from the rulers of our region to Florida to falsify elections to benefit from it in critical times.
Female Presenter: Bin Laden considered the way Bush dealt with the first moments of Sept. 11, giving a good chance to the executors of Sept. 11 to complete it.
OBL: We agreed with Mohamed Atta, god bless him, to execute the whole operation in 20 minutes. Before Bush and his administration would pay attention and we never thought that the high commander of the US armies would leave 50 thousand of his citizens in both towers to face the horrors by themselves when they most needed him because it seemed to distract his attention from listening to the girl telling him about her goat butting was more important than paying attention to airplanes butting the towers which gave us three times the time to execute the operation thank god.
Male presenter: the final part of the message is that the security of the Americans depends on the policy that they execute despite the winner of the elections.
OBL: Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda. Your security is in your hands. Each state that doenst mess with our security has automatically secured their security.
Female Presenter: In Bin Laden's message he approached other points. He pointed to the contradiction which considers oppression and killing of innocents a legal act. They formed an international law as bush the father did with the children of iraq according to bin laden. Bin Laden pointed to the millions of pounds of explosives dropped on Iraqi children as bush his son had done, as he said to remove an old agent and install a new agent to help in stealing the oil of iraq. And bin laden said the events of 9/11 came as an answer to this oppression and said that if the answer to this oppression is considered bad terror, then we need to do it. And he stressed that he wants to deliver this message to the Americans in words and in deeds since the 9/11 events. He reminded Americans of a few warning messages through various news media like Time Magazine and CNN and other Arab and correspondents since 1996. He warned them of the conswquences of their countries policies. He talked abou t the damage Sept 11 caused the US economy and that it cost close to a trillion dollars. He talked about President Bush and that the emergency law requires more money.
The English-speaking terrorists on a new al-Qaida videotape warning of a huge attack appears to be threatening the U.S. with consequences if President Bush is re-elected.
"People of America, that was the verdict, now for the sentencing: As participants and partners in the crimes of the regime, you too shall pay the price for the blood that has been spilled," the man says on the tape.
ABC News, which obtained the tape in Pakistan Friday, withheld the final 15 minutes of it from the CIA when it was submitted for analysis, the Drudge Report is reporting.
The newssite says a federal official claims the portion withheld mentioned President Bush and Vice President Cheney.
"You are guilty, guilty, guilty. You're as guilty as Bush and Cheney. You're as guilty as Rumsfeld and Ashcroft and Powell. ..," the man states in English with an American accent.
Drudge claims the FBI and CIA last night authenticated the tape, which includes a dire warning about a serious terror attack, but ABC News says officials have not authenticated it.
ABC News has debated whether or not to air the disturbing footage. Drudge reported the network was struggling to find the correct journalistic "balance" in its response to the tape.
Even so, the network aired parts of the tape today during its nightly newscast.
On the videotape, the man, whose head and face is covered, says, "The streets will run with blood," and "America will mourn in silence" because they will be unable to count the number of the dead resulting from an attack promised to dwarf 9-11.
" People of America, I remind you of the weighty words of our leaders, Osama bin Laden and Dr. Ayman al-Zawahri, that what took place on September 11 was but the opening salvo of the global war on America," said the man, who is identified only as "Azzam the American." "And that Allah willing, the magnitude and ferocity of what is coming your way will make you forget all about Sept. 11. After decades of American tyranny, now it's your turn to die."
Drudge reports a senior federal official claims ABC was holding back from broadcasting any portion of the video out of fear it will be seen as a political move by the network during election week.
"This is not something you just throw out there while people are voting," an ABC source explained.
The tape appears to be from al-Qaida's media liaison organization.
Intelligence sources say the man in the tape is college educated, either American born or raised in the U.S. They say he may be a terror suspect named Adam Gadhan, or Adam Pearlman, of Southern California.
dhud37lud said this in post #1 : Why is Osama supporting Kerry? To ask the question is to answer it. Consider what Osama has lost: (1) his ally, the Taliban, and his home base, Afghanistan (overthrown by President Bush); (2) his ally, Saddam, who trained the 9-11 terrorists (overthrown by President Bush)
"Osama has lost... his ally, Saddam, who trained the 9-11 terrorists"??
If your going to cut and paste rubbish like this at least read it first. You do actually know this statement is false... don't you?
btw - Bush went up in the polls after Bin Laden's tape was shown. What do you think of that?
"Osama has lost... his ally, Saddam, who trained the 9-11 terrorists"??
If your going to cut and paste rubbish like this at least read it first. You do actually know this statement is false... don't you?
btw - Bush went up in the polls after Bin Laden's tape was shown. What do you think of that?
Do you claim to know that this statement is false? By what means can you prove a negative? Are you at all open-minded and receptive to the truth?
The truth is that a federal judge (Judge Baer of Manhattan District Court) actually found Saddam liable to the victims of September 11.
Furthermore, the proof of Saddam's role in the 9-11 attacks is overwhelming and I have set it forth at great length, with supporting documentation, in a previous post.
You should look it up and read it. Then you tell me where it is erroneous -- that is, if you can.
Below please find an improved version of my post. The new title is
DON'T GIVE BIN LADIN THE VICTORY!
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Kerry's latest "foreign backer," Osama bin Ladin
Early in the 2004 presidential campaign, Kerry boasted of having foreign backers. When a prospective voter asked who they are, Kerry arrogantly replied that their identity is "my business, not yours." Subsequently, Kerry received overt endorsements from communist North Korea (Kim Jong Il), communist Cuba (Castro), Al Jazeera (Al Qaeda's news agency), Palestinian terrorist Yassir Arafat, avowed anti-Semitic former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamed, and most importantly theocratic Iran.
One by one the foreign backers came forth. The latest foreign backer is bin Ladin himself.
Compare the two Al Qaida tapes (below): (1) the bin Ladin tape and (2) the preceding "Azzam the American," i.e., Adam Gadhan ("blood in the streets") tape. Obviously the two messages are inter-related and seem to threaten: "Defeat Bush or suffer the consequences!" This technique actually worked in Spain, defeating America's ally Asnar. It has worked before with others. However, the most recent attempt was defeated when the people of Australia had the good sense to re-elect America's ally, John Howard, disregarding the warnings of Kerry's sister Diane (working in tandem with Al Qaeda) that terrorism would follow.
MEMRI also translated an analysis of bin Laden's statement from the Islamist Web site al-Qal'a, well known for posting al-Qaeda messages, which agreed that bin Laden's use of the word "ay-wilaya" was meant as a "warning to every U.S state separately."
"It means that any U.S. state that will choose to vote for the white thug Bush as president, it means that it chose to fight us and we will consider it an enemy to us, and any state that will vote against Bush, it means that it chose to make peace with us and we will not characterize it as an enemy," the Web site said, according to MEMRI's translation.
Why is Osama supporting Kerry? To ask the question is to answer it. Consider what Osama has lost: (1) his ally, the Taliban, and his home base, Afghanistan (overthrown by President Bush); (2) his ally, Saddam, who trained the 9-11 terrorists (overthrown by President Bush) and who provided a home base to Al-Zarqawi (being hunted down by President Bush); (3) his ally, Libya (which is now cooperating with President Bush); (4) 75% of Al Qaeda's leadership (captured or killed by President Bush); (5) his own ability to move around under the reactive approach to terrorism (the Clinton-Kerry "law-enforcement" approach) now superseded by the proactive approach (President Bush's military "war on terrror"). Now Osama is encircled, on the run, living in caves, fearful of being betrayed by those around him.
No wonder Al Qaeda's allies (Al Jazeera, Iran, etc.) had already endorsed Kerry. The stage was set for Kerry's last foreign backer to emerge -- bin Ladin himself. The technique in use is the same as that which worked in Spain, and which Kerry's sister unsuccessfully tried in Australia against John Howard. That technique is, of course, the threat of terrorism.
Obviously, if Bush loses, the terrorists will claim the victory on the basis of the threats from Adam Gadhan and from bin Ladin, himself. Al Qaeda's threats (delivered by Kerry's ally, Al Jazeera) would have found their marks here, as they did in Spain. On the other hand, if Americans reject Kerry (as the Australians rejected the terrorist warnings from Kerry's sister), it will be evidence that (like their allies the Australians), Americans do not capitulate before bin Ladin's threats.
Which way will America go in the November 2 election? Will it be the path of appeasement (a "more sensitive," "global test" type approach) or the path of liberation (taking the fight to the enemy and planting free market democracy in the Middle East)? In WWII Britain had to make a similar choice: between Neville Chamberlain's "peace in our time" and Winston Churchill's determination to fight the enemy to victory. Today the choice is between Kerry's reactive "global test" approach and President Bush's proactive approach in assembling a "coalition of the willing" to root out terrorism in its home base. Let us not give terrorism the victory.
Bin Ladin Attacks President Bush Using Kerry's Propaganda
John Kerry, Michael Moore, and Democrat Party themes used by bin Ladin:
(1) the continuation of US policy will lead to the repetition of the attack of September 11, 2001;
(2) the way to avoid another conflict is to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq and Afghanistan;
(3) otherwise there will be another attack on the U.S.;
(4) September 11 was the result of the American-Israeli coalition, including the operation in Lebanon;
(5) claim that Bush is misleading the American people;
(6) claim that the Bush family is similar to, and is allied with, the royal family of Saudi Arabia,
(7) claim that Bush's "Patriot Law" is oppressive;
(8) claim that the senior Bush placed his sons as governors of states;
(9) claim that Florida 2000 election was falsified;
(10) claim that Bush stayed too long in the school while planes hit the WTC;
(11) admission that the 1991 Iraq war (expelling Saddam from Kuwait) was the reason for the September 11 attack;
(12) warning to the 50 individual states of the U.S. in this election that "[e]ach 'state' that doenst mess with our security has automatically secured their security";
(13) warning about the cost of American policy.
Bin Ladin's message was broadcast over Al Qaeda's Al Jazeera network (which endorsed Kerry).
A transcript of today's Al-Jazeera presentation was provided by the Drudge Report <." target=_blankhttp://www.drudgereport.com>. <http://www.drudgereport.com>
Newsreader: A new message from Bin Laden to the American people about the reasons and resulats of the 9/11 attacks.
Newsreader 2: The head of AL Qaeda says [1] the continuation of US policy will lead to the repetition of what happened.
Male presenter: The head of AL Qaeda organization directed a message to the American people and this video and audio apearence in this tape which Jezeera required for the first time for two years. In the beginning of his message, he spoke about the reasons why they chose the US to execute 9/11..
OBL: You American people, my speech to you is [2] the best way to avoid another conflict about the war and its reasons and results. I am telling you security is an important pillar of human life. And free people don't let go of their security contrary to Bush's claims that we hate freedom. He should tell us why we didn't hit Sweden for instance. Its known that those who hate freedom don't have dignified souls.like the 19 who were blessed. But we fought you because we are free people, we don't sleep on our oppression. We want to regain the freedom of our Muslim nation; [3] as you spill our security, we spill your security.
Female presenter: Bin Laden spoke for the first time about the main reasons he thought of executing Sept 11 attacks, confirming that the [4a] Israeli operation in Lebanon was the first incident where he thought of it.
OBL: I am so surprised by you. Although we are in the fourth year after the events of sept 11, [5] Bush is still practicing distortion and misleading on you, and obscuring the main reasons and therefore the reasons are still existing to repeat what happened before. I will tell you the reasons behind theses incidents.
I will be honest with you on the moment when the decision was taken to understand. We never thought of hitting the towers. But after we were so fed up, and we saw the oppression of the [4b] American Israeli coalition on our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind and the incidents that really touched me directly goes back to 1982 and the following incidents.
When the US permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon with the assistance of the 6th fleet. In these hard moments, it occurred to me so many meanings I cant explain but it resulted in a general feeling of rejecting oppression and gave me a hard determination to punish the oppressors. While I was looking at the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it came to my mind to punish the oppressor the same way and destroy towers in the US to get a taste of what they tasted, and quit killing our children and women.
Male presenter: Bin Laden considered in his message that the results of Sept 11 were successful in his opinion and as a reason of that, he said that the [6] similarity between the administration of Bush the father and the arab regimes said Bush learned so much from them during his visits.
OBL: We didn't find difficulty dealing with Bush and his administration due to the similarity of his regime and the regims in our countries. Whish half of them are ruled by military and the other half by sons of kings and presidents and our experience with them is long. Both parties are arrogant and stubborn and the greediness and taking money without right and that similarity appeared during the visits of Bush to the region while people from our side were impressed by the US and hoped that these visits would influence our countries. Here he is being influenced by these regimes, Royal and military.
And was feeling jealous they were staying for decades in power stealing the nations finances without anybody overseeing them. [7] So he transferred the oppression of freedom and tyranny to his son and they call it the Patriot Law to fight terrorism. [8] He was bright in putting his sons as governors in states and [9] he didn't forget to transfer his experience from the rulers of our region to Florida to falsify elections to benefit from it in critical times.
Female Presenter: Bin Laden considered the way Bush dealt with the first moments of Sept. 11, giving a good chance to the executors of Sept. 11 to complete it.
OBL: We agreed with Mohamed Atta, god bless him, to execute the whole operation in 20 minutes. [10] Before Bush and his administration would pay attention and we never thought that the high commander of the US armies would leave 50 thousand of his citizens in both towers to face the horrors by themselves when they most needed him because it seemed to distract his attention from listening to the girl telling him about her goat butting was more important than paying attention to airplanes butting the towers which gave us three times the time to execute the operation thank god.
Male presenter: the final part of the message is that the security of the Americans depends on the policy that they execute despite the winner of the elections.
OBL: Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or Al Qaeda. Your security is in your hands. [11] Each state that doenst mess with our security has automatically secured their security.
Female Presenter: In Bin Laden's message he approached other points. He pointed to the contradiction which considers oppression and killing of innocents a legal act. [12] They formed an international law as bush the father did with the children of iraq according to bin laden. Bin Laden pointed to the millions of pounds of explosives dropped on Iraqi children as bush his son had done, as he said to remove an old agent and install a new agent to help in stealing the oil of iraq. And bin laden said the events of 9/11 came as an answer to this oppression and said that if the answer to this oppression is considered bad terror, then we need to do it. [13] And he stressed that he wants to deliver this message to the Americans in words and in deeds since the 9/11 events. He reminded Americans of a few warning messages through various news media like Time Magazine and CNN and other Arab and correspondents since 1996. He warned them of the conswquences of their countries policies. He talked abou t the damage Sept 11 caused the US economy and that it cost close to a trillion dollars. He talked about President Bush and that the emergency law requires more money.
Do you claim to know that this statement is false? By what means can you prove a negative? Are you at all open-minded and receptive to the truth?
quote:
October 4, 2004, Donald Rumsfeld: "To my knowledge, I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links the two"
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Washington Post: The Sept. 11 commission reported yesterday that it has found no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda
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Osama bin Laden met with a top Iraqi official in 1994 but found “no credible evidence” of a link between Iraq and al-Qaida in attacks against the United States http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5223932/
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White House press conferance, Blair and Bush, 31 January 2003
Adam Boulton, Sky News: Do you believe that there is a link between Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the 11th?
dhudlud said this in post #7 : DON'T GIVE BIN LADIN THE VICTORY!
How low are people willing to crawl to get people to vote one way or the other? Both sides obviously lie to win. Both sides claim things they've no intention of following through with. But claiming a vote for Kerry is a vote for Bin Laden has to be about the most cynical, manipulative and outrageous attempt to get votes.
Those making this claim should be ashamed of themselves.
dhud37lud said this in post #1 : Kerry's latest "foreign backer," Osama bin Ladin
Early in the 2004 presidential campaign, Kerry boasted of having foreign backers. ... Subsequently, Kerry received overt endorsements from ... and most importantly theocratic Iran. (E-1)
This statement is false. Iran has officially endorsed Bush.
First, Kerry offered to serve Iran and the offer was accepted;
Second, Iran sought to cover itself by pretending to endorse Bush.
(See below)
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I. Kerry Prostituted Himself to Iran
While still awaiting Democratic nomination, Kerry secretly e-mailed Iran (via its government-controlled news agency), criticizing his own country's foreign policy and seeking Iranian support for his candidacy. (E-13) Subsequently, at least four Iranian-Americans sympathetic to the Iranian theocracy have taken prominent roles in Kerry's fund-raising. (E-14) For his part, Kerry stated , "as president, I will be prepared early on to explore areas of mutual interest with Iran, just as I was prepared to normalize relations with Vietnam a decade ago." (E-15) He suggested that the Bush administration's unwillingness to bargain with Tehran is to blame for Iran's harboring of al Qaeda operatives. (E-16)
On September 30, 2004 in debating President Bush, Kerry insisted as president he would provide Tehran with the nuclear fuel it wants for a pledge to use it for peaceful purposes only. (E-17) While thus arming Iran, Kerry would deprive America of the "bunker buster" bombs necessary to defend against Iran's violation of its pledge. (E-18) At the same time, Iran's own terrorist organization Hezbollah (as well as Hamas) is the recipient of funds ultimately derived from Teresa Heinz Kerry. (E-19)
For Aryo Pirouznia, who chairs the Student Movement Coordination Committee for Democracy in Iran , Kerry's offer to negotiate with hard-liners in the regime smacks of lunacy. "America is incredibly popular with the Iranian masses, so this is a grave mistake for a short-term benefit," Pirouznia says. "To the regime, this sends a message that America is willing to make a deal despite the blood of Americans who were murdered in Dhahran [Saudi Arabia] and are being killed today in Iraq by so-called foreign elements." (E-20)
Meanwhile, Iran's terrorist stooge in Iraq Moqtada Al Sadr, centered in Najaf, is fighting against America and its coalition allies, one episode resulting in the killing of 20 American GIs in two days. On October 10, 2003 Muqtada al-Sadr announced his intention to form an Islamic state in Iraq by establishing a shadow government there, complete with ministries. Fighting broke out in Karbala on 13 October 2003 when al-Sadr's men attacked supporters of moderate Shi'ite Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani near the Imam Hussein shrine. (E-21) Kerry criticized coalition closure of Al Sadr's newspaper, which had published false stories blaming the coalition forces for local acts of terrorism. Prior to catching himself, Kerry referred to Al Sadr as a "legitimate voice in Iraq." (E-22) The Independent Media Institute (AlterNet), funded by Teresa Heinz Kerry, urged anti-Americans to come to New York City to show rejection of the ongoing war in Iraq by rioting in the streets outside the Republican National Convention. "It's time to bring Najaf [site of the Al Sadr uprising in Iraq] to New York.” (E-23)
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E-13: See "Kerry Says He Will Repair Damage If He Wins Election ," Tehran Times, Mehr News Agency, February 8, 2004; "Iranian News Agency Alleges John Kerry Sends Email Message," Middle East Media Research Institute, February 11, 2004.
E-14: See "John Kerry's Iranian-American Fund-Raisers," by Kenneth R. Timmerman, Insight, March 1, 2004.
E-15: See "Persian Power," by Peter Brookes, Military.com, September 13, 2004.
E-16: See "Kerry and the ayatollahs," The Washington Times, March 01, 2004.
E-17: See "Money trail behind Kerry's Iran stance", WorldNetDaily.com, October 3, 2004.
E-18: See "The Most Important Comment of the Debate," by Roger L. Simon, September 30, 2004.
E-19: See “Heinz Kerry-Funded Web Site Praises Hezbollah,” by Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, June 15, 2004 [Hezbollah]; “Teresa Heinz Kerry: Bag Lady for the Radical Left,” by Ben Johnson, FrontPageMagazine.com, Feb. 13, 2004 [Hamas]; "57 Varieties of Radical Causes, Part I," by Ben Johnson,
FrontPageMagazine.com, September 16, 2004.
E-20: See "Kerry Will Abandon War on Terrorism," By Kenneth R. Timmerman, Insight, March 1, 2004.
E-22: See "Kerry: Terrorist Shiite Al-Sadr 'a Legitimate Voice,'" by Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff, April 7, 2004.
E-23: See "57 Varieties of Radical Causes, Part II," by Ben Johnson, FrontPageMagazine.com, September 17, 2004.
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II. Iran's Pseudo-endorsement of President Bush
You have to look below the surface. Like its stooge Kerry (he of flip-flop fame), Iran has its overt and covert positions. Overtly, it implies a willingness to cooperate with our struggle against Al Qaida. Covertly, it shelters Al Qaida so that new terrorist strikes can be launched. Overtly, it is a bystander as to our struggle against Al Sadr. Covertly, it gives its stooge Al Sadr his marching orders. The former Soviet Union had its overt "peaceful coexistence" stance while covertly it was aiding the North Vietnamese regime against us, Kerry being a member of its Fifth Column.
In assessing Iran's pseudo-endorsement of President Bush, let us make use of logic, common sense, and historical memory. Two questions should be asked: (1) Who would Iran really want to win the election; and (2) What would motivate Iran to pretend to endorse President Bush.
Beyond question, Iran's Ayatollahs have every reason to want Kerry to win. It was Kerry's ally, Jimmy Carter who helped the Ayatollahs defeat America's ally the Shah. It was Kerry who advocated giving Iran nuclear material, and who also advocated our unilateral disarmament as to research into bunker-bumper bombs. On the other hand, shortly after the attack on September 11, 2001, President Bush identified Iran as part of the "axis of evil" which included, inter alia, terrorist organizations such as Al Qaida, and rogue regimes such as Iran, Iraq, North Korea. Iran has its own terrorist organization, Hezbollah (which, inter alia, is the beneficiary of Teresa Kerry's generosity.) President Bush's strategy is one of liberation (regime displacement). Iran's Ayatollah regime is in a very vulnerable position vis-a-vis internal revolution (e.g., the Iranian Student Movement). The Shah's son is working with these revolutionary forces. Another factor is that one of the biggest threats to Iran's nuclear capability is our ally Israel. President Bush is Israel's ally. Kerry is an ally of Israel's Palestinian enemy Yassir Arafat.
Why then would Iran pretend to endorse their enemy President Bush? First, to prevent damage to Kerry who had already been embarrased by previous endorsements from anti-American (terrorist and totalitarian) regimes. Second, to hedge Iran's bets in the event that President Bush won a second term.
First, Kerry offered to serve Iran and the offer was accepted;
Second, Iran sought to cover itself by pretending to endorse Bush.
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Is any of this post, apart from the about two inane comments (and maybe they're not yours either), your thoughts or is everything just a cut and paste job.
USA1 said this in post #14 : dhudlud,
You are beating a dead horse with h@ts. The lights are on but nobody is home.
Obviously you didn't read dhudlud's post, which explains your response. If this guy has something to say I would rather hear what he thinks, not what he can find to cut and paste. The internet is full of outrageous information that's not worth posting but he insists on posting endless amount of stuff from other forums or blogs or where ever he gets it from.
I'm also getting pretty tired with you flag wavers who's main response to too many posts now is to tell OTHERS not to bother responding. IT'S A FORUM!
11-01-2004 07:10 AM
