John Kerry's 2 tours in Vietnam and his political activism during and after the war.
Tour 1. 1 year on a boat 50 miles from Vietnam.
Tour 2. 3.5 months in Vietnam (gravey bases in the south) and all the 'different' units he served with in those 3.5 months. Also how he got 3 purple hearts for not being injured in battle. My injuries during Vietnam that give me disabled veteran status were far worse than his and I have no purple heart. His commanders don't know how he got those purple hearts. The Navy is investigating it now.
1971. John Kerry, while still on Inactive Reserve status and the war still in progress, met with the North Vietnamese Communists in Hanoi and Paris. This in itself is considered treason and is a military crime. The only reason that he did not go to jail was because of the 500,000 followers he had during that time. Many of which were interviewed as supposed Vietnam vets apposed o the war. Many of these were liers also and many never even served or never left the states.
These statement were used against our own troops at the time. Lies about atrosities told by these liers were much a part of his campaign agaist the war. His left hand man lied about his military record and was found out to be a lier too.
There is a lot of documented history in this book. Vietnam Veterans agaist the War also had conspired to assasinate U.S. Senators while Kerry was still active with this group.
How is it possible that this guy could get so far for so long without being found out you ask? Vietnam Veterans are very loyal group. They typically would not speak out agaist another Veteran, like Kerry has done to George Bush. They laid dorment for 30 years until Kerry decided to run for President. He may be Ok as a Senator, but not as Commander In Chief of the American armed forces.
It's time for the veterans to speak out against John Kerry and it isn't over yet.
"Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless." ~Ayatollah Khomeini
Sounds like a very serious allegation that the writer is making I hope for his sake it is true because where I come from telling lies about a war veteran is not on regardless of his political standing. Any way what Kerry did or did not do in Vietnam is clearly none of my business.
Just out of intrest how long did you serve in Nam? I hope your sincerly hope your injuries were not to severe.
If Kerry's actions brought the Vietnam war to an end any quicker then he did the troops a favour. It was a dumb war that had no effect other than to kill a lot of people. Have you any idea what you were fighting for in Vietnam? Do you know why you were killing the Vietnamese people thousands of miles from the United States?
"They typically would not speak out agaist another Veteran, like Kerry has done to George Bush." Bush? A veteran? That's funny And since when hasn't the Republican party not been just the lowest form of life when it comes to electioneering? No party can stoop as low a Republcans? Don't you remember Clinton having to explain to the WHOLE PLANET what he did with and intern and a cigar?? That was prime-time around the world!!
My injuries were enouugh to keep me in the hospital for 7 straight weeks and 3 weeks as a followup. 8 broken ribs and broken breast bone. Both stays were at Travis Airbase in California. I never spent very long in country because of the injuries and returned home to be discharged 6 months later. I was lucky enough to be in the Air Force and didn't get to see any real combat. I did however get to sit with hundreds of injured veterans returning from Vietnam and spent many hours awake listening to the pain and suffering of those brave men. The experience I had in the hospital at that time were some of the most saddening in my whole life. I made many friends there who remain my freinds to this day. Of those I am in contact with, all feel the same as I about John Fonda Kerry.
The book isn't about alligations at all. They are those who served along side of John Kerry.
Those who question the Swifties and feel that they are lying should be equally suspect of John Kerry. Kerry has reason to lie. The Swifties have reason to tell the truth.
What ever you feel the reason for joining the military adn fighting in a war are your own personl reasons. Each to his own. John Kerry's reason was solely for political asperations alone. Made up videos, made up stories, made up serious injuries. One lie to cover another. At some point it will all come crashing down.
We all learned this as children. Kerry has taken it way too far.
"Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless." ~Ayatollah Khomeini
USA1 said this in post #6 :
What ever you feel the reason for joining the military adn fighting in a war are your own personl reasons. Each to his own. John Kerry's reason was solely for political asperations alone. Made up videos, made up stories, made up serious injuries. One lie to cover another. At some point it will all come crashing down.
We all learned this as children. Kerry has taken it way too far.
Think about what you've just said. Kerry joined the military "solely for political asperations alone"? It doesn't make sense that he'd join the military and fight in a war just so he could come back and protest against that war. Give the man credit, he went to Vietnam and saw the war for himself. Many Veterans that came back were disilutioned with what was going on there and quite rightly too. Vietnam was US foreign policy at it's worst.
You obviously don't understand Kerry then do you.
It all was done to look good on his political resume. It is the sole reason he joined the Navy Reserves. He enver thought he would ever set foot Vietnam and he did everything possible to get out of it. And to that end, he did just that.
"Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless." ~Ayatollah Khomeini
How did Kerry fool the military into giving him the Purple Heart?
The Swift Boat group that attacked Kerry are not impartial.
The Swift Boat group - who only got the ads on TV because of a "loophole clause in the campaign finance laws" - were funded by Bob R. Perry. Perry gave millions to the Republican party and Republican candidates, mostly in Texas, including President Bush. Perry gave $100,000 of the $158,750 received by the Swift Boat group.
Jerome R. Corsi, coauthor of the book is "an experienced mud thrower whose prior targets have been the Pope, Jews and Muslims"
None of those in the attack ad by the Swift Boat group actually served on Kerry's boat. And their statements are contrary to the accounts of Kerry and those who served under him.
Here's a quote from someone who did actually serve on Kerry's boat.
"He deserved every one of his medals," said Del Sandusky, who piloted Mr Kerry's Swift boat (a 50-foot aluminium patrol craft) for nearly three months in the Mekong delta.
I don't think he fooled anyone, except for when he threw away someone elses medals for his photo op. He simply applied for them himself and signed off on them. Purple hearts are given out at the request of superior officers and
his commanders have no recollection of them. The doctors who treated him have records of his wounds which required a band aid to treat and was nothing more than a thorn sized piece of his own round going off, caused by his own weapon being fired to close to the target. Which in his case was the shoreline. No enemy was ever seen or bodies recovered.
If Kerry would sign the form 180, none of this would be an issue at all. I see no reaosn why he wouldn't. Especially as a decorated war hero. One would think that this information would be good for his campaign. Right?
I have no doubt that Kerry has these medals. Frankly I don't care either way. My point in this forum is that he is a lier and traitor. Did he serve? Yes. Did get honorably discharged? Yes. So di Bush.
Did Kerry visit with North Vietnam during the war? Yes and he admitis it. If he didn't then he is lying about this too. Which part do WE believe, then or now?
I simply cannot find the man to trust worthy. I don't like using the flip-flop word but, it IS plain for everyone to see that he changes his story with the wind.
What will he do now or in the future? Who knows and I'm not sure he knows. Becasue of this, I can't vote for him and allow him to do to my son what he did to other vets.
Who knows, maybe he could solve the environment issue in 4 years or give every person a job or maybe even put an end to terrorism but frankly I don;t think he has a clue what side he stands on from day to day. We've all seen him doing this and it cannot be denied. To vote for him because he is not George Bush puts everyone at risk to more lies. I'm not willing to take that chance.
"Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless." ~Ayatollah Khomeini
09-23-2004 12:59 PM
And since when hasn't the Republican party not been just the lowest form of life when it comes to electioneering? No party can stoop as low a Republcans? Don't you remember Clinton having to explain to the WHOLE PLANET what he did with and intern and a cigar?? 
