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Stacie J. post #1  quote:





I should win because
"I'm not used to losing." -as told to Entertainment Weekly

Stacie, 35, grew up in Colorado. She has a BA from Emory University and an MBA from Mercer University, both of which are located in Atlanta, Georgia.

She is a professional model with Ford Model Management based in New York City and Elite Model Management with offices in Los Angeles, Atlanta, Miami, and Chicago. She currently owns a successful Subway Sandwich Shop Franchise in Harlem, New York.



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This chick is nutty. I can't believe I hate someone so early in the show...

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ROFL!!

She's got quite the temper. See how she chewed out the wrong girl, and then said that stupid line, "Have a nice life"? I don't like her either...



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This chick is nutty. I can't believe I hate someone so early in the show...

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Stacie's Qualification Week Two Perhaps Overshadowed For Some Reasons post #5  quote:

Why so many dislike Stacie J. I can't figure out. She seems to be more experienced in the food industry than the others on Apex since she owns a Subway Sandwhich Shop franchise . Stacie said "I don't want to be friends with any of the other women." Perhaps, this might be her downfall, just like Omarosa last season on the Apprentice who said "I'm not here to make friends but to compete and win."
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Apex set up their ice cream carts in a prime, tourist location - but they were soon interrupted by an angry vendor who worked in that area. The vendor demanded to see Apex's Vendor Permit (which of course they didn't have). Ivana decided that the group should just move. The two carts split up and lost track of each other. When Stacy R. called the second cart on a cell phone, Stacie J. said that she and the second cart were on 7th Avenue. So, Maria headed down 7th Avenue in search of the second cart. After walking ten blocks, Maria gave up. Later, Stacy R. found out that Stacie J. had been wrong - the second cart was on Broadway right next to them, and not on 7th. In fact, it turned out that the second cart was just across the street from them the whole time! Apex finally got their carts together and began selling ice cream as one team again.

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A thought about how to find a missing friend, while you both are communicating on mobile phones: Marco?



Polo!!

How about providing some landmarks?

For example:

Stacie - "We're on 7th street, right at the corner of 7th and Madison, right in front of the McDonald's"
Stacy R. - "K, I don't know where that is, but I'll let Jennifer and Ivana know what you said. Stay there till we get there..."

Then, presumably, they'd all move to a better location with less competition, and sell, sell, sell...

Nobody should've ended up walking any 10 blocks.......



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They Were Only Across The Street But Couldn't See Each Other post #7  quote:

Hey Big Daddy, you're thinking too logically. We're dealing with three gorgeous models who finished college with honors. Those directions with landmarks work well in suburban settings. We're talking about the most congested and most densely populated real estate in the world, the Times Square. A few years back, I went there and asked two NYPD cops on the beat there for directions and they couldn't even agree or know the directions to three blocks away.
The trucks, vans and heavy pedestrians and traffic obscured the views, separated by a congested urban crowd. Maria during her search, as well as all the other Apex team members could not see across the street to unite the two carts. So Maria on her high heels went about a mile away failing to find the other team mates. Stacy R with her cell phone who resides and works in NY should have gone searching in downtown Times Square, and not sending Maria the out-of-towner who has no clue and no cell phone.
    When Stacy R. called the second cart on a cell phone, Stacie J. said that she and the second cart were on 7th Avenue. So, Maria headed down 7th Avenue in search of the second cart. After walking ten blocks, Maria gave up....the second cart was on Broadway right next to them, and not on 7th. In fact, it turned out that the second cart was just across the street from them the whole time!

    * Source: nbc.ocm



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There has to be more that we are not seeing about why people dislike Stacie J. so much. It seems to "pat" that she is also saying, like Omarosa, she is not there to make friends. She does seem a little out of her element. She "owns" a franchise and is a model? How much is she really involved in that business?

But the first week I couldn't figure out why, when she was talking and addressing people when she was playing around with the Eight Ball, they did just seem to ignore her and freeze her out. She looked sort of forlorn.

My opinion is that it is always that way when a group of women are together, and that is what you have here. Within the group, smaller groups are formed. If you don't make it into one of the smaller groups, you're the odd lady out with no friends. You may still get to hang around, but you're never part of anything. How sad that women behave this way, ostrasizing (sp?) people. And I'm a lady and should know. I'm just glad it doesn't happen with all women, but it sure happens with too many.


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Two thoughts here;

(1) Stacie is not as bad as everyone is making her out to be.

(2) Stacie is no Omarosa. She's intelligent, has initiative, and actually has some redeeming qualities.

I was rooting for her in the boardroom until Bradford got fired. Ivana is a disaster.


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How Viewers Perceiving Stacie The Same Tracking As Omarosa post #10  quote:

First most viewers stereotype the casts of characters on BOTH Apprentice TV Series. Each time, the opening cries are: Get rid of the Black Apprentice, next the Asian Apprentice...(they are the worst) but in reality both times... Trump fires two males, week 1 and week 2. Think about that. Wanna learn from history? Seems to repeat itself doesn't it? Those who been around the block can confirm what I just said. The boardroom realities in play if you want to analyze it in depth and see human behavior.
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There has to be more that we are not seeing about why people dislike Stacie J. so much. It seems to pat that she is also saying, like Omarosa, she is not there to make friends. She does seem a little out of her element. She owns a franchise and is a model? How much is she really involved in that business?

Fast food franchising normally is intended to be run by store managers and absentee ownership. Doesn't require daily involvement if Stacie with a sharp business degree has good staff. This fastest growing fast food franchising is a good investment fit for people like herself, BA from Emory University and an MBA from Mercer University willing to make capital investment back into Harlem, NY. Doesn't look like many here would put money there. Next we'll be seeing and reading within a few years Stacie owns a number of successful franchises.

But the first week I couldn't figure out why, when she was talking and addressing people when she was playing around with the Eight Ball, they did just seem to ignore her and freeze her out. She looked sort of forlorn. My opinion is that it is always that way when a group of women are together, and that is what you have here. Within the group, smaller groups are formed. If you don't make it into one of the smaller groups, you're the odd lady out with no friends. You may still get to hang around, but you're never part of anything. How sad that women behave this way, ostrasizing (sp?) people. And I'm a lady and should know. I'm just glad it doesn't happen with all women, but it sure happens with too many.

The first and second week Apprentice shows reveal what happens in our society during group dynamics. People gravitate within their comfort zone. Last season, Omarosa was the lone ranger and this season Stacie the same. Wanna watch the evolution of this same situation replaying once more in Apprentice II again? Will the past predict the future once again? Here is short summary of that thread opener. < -- Just Click Here
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Opening Post #1 by Kookaburra last season Apprentice: Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth - "I'm going to crush my competition and I'm going to enjoy doing it."

Following Post #2 by oldbutafan - Strong woman but her style is way too overbearing. She came off to me as thinking she is a cut above the others -- is she older ? and by post #9 - In perspective, Omorosa is editted as overbearing and self-centered. I do think that in Episode 2 her response to the kettle comment was way out there and out of context. I can be cranky when I don't feel well too, but for such a smart woman, she constantly fails at what I'll call political positioning within the team.

Post #10 by Kookaburra - The more she alienates herself from hearing what the others have to say, the more likely she'll be to get fired the first chance the women get.

Post #11 by Oldbutafan - Yes, they even said it might be worth losing to remove the conflict. That would be foolish, and I don't know if they know how the firing process works. Unless they can show that she contributed directly to the team's loss on a specific task

Post #12 by Kookaburra – She’ll be the first woman gone.

Post #13 by logologo - I think the Asian gal should and will be the first woman gone, but olbutafan, all your comments seem to be ripped right from my head

Post #14 by Ken NJ - Omarosa has drives. She didn't get where she is without those qualities. In her journey, she has left a trail of discards.
    I sensed her will to survive and doesn't place much trust on those that surround her. I've worked with many black middle and top level executives to know how they feel as they mastered the track around the block. There initial message is "Don't screw with my work, and let me be" for those confident career climbers. Often times, the group dynamics will be separated down to racial lines. She has to find her center strength in those around her. The camera captivated the rough journeys and to many may be shocking. Let time be the better guide in epi 3 and 4 to see the real sensitive side of Omarosa. I wouldn't underestimate her ability and life experience - a rare skill most haven't experienced nor will bring to the table to lead a company up against some of those marketplace forces.
I wouldn't underestimate Stacie's street smart ability. She's been around the block a few times, which explains her focus is to win the Trump prize, not the pagentry title of popularity or congeniality like Omarosa. She remained quiet during competition and during the boardroom to which many thinks she's incompetent and too reserved. Stacie hasn't gotten much traction yet at the beginning of the Apprentice series and it was obvious from the first two shows that she hasn't nor will capture the "Miss Popularity" contest. But Stacie has a proven record of accomplishments to which many seemed to overlook and underestimate. People said the same with Omarosa (looks exactly once again with Stacie) and she brought lots of excitement and was a strong destabilizing force in the last Apprentice series in teaming up with Heidi to get "Ms. Congeniality" Kristi fired.


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Re: How Viewers Perceiving Stacie The Same Tracking As Omarosa post #11  quote:

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First most viewers stereotype the casts of characters on BOTH Apprentice TV Series. Each time, the opening cries are: Get rid of the Black Apprentice, next the Asian Apprentice...(they are the worst) but in reality both times... Trump fires two males, week 1 and week 2. Think about that. Wanna learn from history? Seems to repeat itself doesn't it? Those who been around the block can confirm what I just said. The boardroom realities in play if you want to analyze it in depth and see human behavior.
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People's disdain for Omarosa had NOTHING to do with her race. It had to do with the fact that she was a *****, who rarely contributed to the tasks.

As for Tammy, she was just not a strong candidate. She never connected with the clients during tasks, and often turned them off (see Carson Daly and that other guy).

My dislike for the above candidates had nothing to do with their races and everything to do with their incompetence.

The worst mistakes Trump made last year were in firing Jason Curtis so early, and keeping Omarosa and Sam around for so long. Oh, and rigging that last task so that Amy and Nick could win. That sucked too. The only reason he did these things was for ratings. His blunder in firing Bradford FAR exceeds those mistakes, though.


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I am glad Donald fired this woman, shes a typical Black, hispanic crazy woman.

Hispanics, Blacks belongs in Harlem and STAY THERE.


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Donald,

Two bad decisions in a row. You are the "crazy" one.

You're fired for good.

I will never watch your show again.


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I am glad Donald fired this woman, shes a typical Black, hispanic crazy woman.

Hispanics, Blacks belongs in Harlem and STAY THERE.


Take your racist self back to the gutter with the rest of the vermin.


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Well if i had said Donald is a typical White guy and he belongs in Beverly Hill and STAY THERE, am i racist too??

You dont get it Kevinbailey to many Blacks and Hispanics, theres nothing wrong with Harlem and staying there would be a dream come true for them.


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