It's the woman's body, not anyone else's. No one can make her choices for her. Everyone knows that when a sperm cell comes into contact with an egg, it gets fertilized, and the result is pregnancy.
There is a way to avoid this. If you choose to have sex anyway despite the risk, that's your choice. But you cannot justify the killing of an embryo (i will refrain from calling it human for the sake of argument, but it IS killing) simply because you do not feel like leading a hard life.
Your kid may lead a hard life too. The way I see it if you are not ready to have a kid you are not ready to have sex.
I am definitely Pro-Choice.
BUT...what does this mean?
This, I'd like to clarify...
I do not encourage or promote abortions.
I do believe that a woman should have the right to a medically safe abortion should she, in consultation with her conscience, family, and doctor; make the decision to have an abortion.
BEING PRO-CHOICE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST ABORTIONS
Being Pro-Choice is about MANY issues regarding reproductive choices/freedom.
The decision to have a baby, how many, and when...is probably THE most personal decision a woman will ever make in her life. The decision should never be taken lightly as parenting involves much responsibility.
To me, being Pro-Choice is about keeping these decisions personal and private; about protecting freedoms of choice regarding all reproductive related issues.
CONTRACEPTION IS KEY
The use of contraception helps to prevent unplanned pregnancies. Abortions are most likely the result of unplanned pregnancies. Unplanned parenting may very well be responsible for some child abuse and neglect cases. People that do not want, or, are not ready to be parents, should have a right to access contraception. Furthermore, I believe that ALL people should have the right to be educated on issues of family planning and ALL available options.
WHY CAN'T I HAVE A TUBAL LIGATION?
The answer: Because I'm 27 years old and I haven't born any children.
If I want to have myself sterilized, how is this anyone's decision but mine? The rational is because of the permanency of the procedure...what if I change my mind? Well, I won't. And honestly, if I did, I would have to live with that decision...MY decision. It infuriates me that in order for me to have a tubal legation, I would have to fight for it, and likely do a lot of searching for a doctor that would be willing. And actually, I would prefer just to have a hysterectomy because to me, these "parts" are useless...just sitting there waiting to possibly develop cancer. I'm not using them!...why do I have to take that chance?
DOES YOUR INSURANCE PLAN COVER THIS?
How does one discreetly ask during an employment interview, "Can you tell me if your health insurance plan covers contraception and/or sterilization procedures?" You see, this is extremely important to me...a must have. But, employers can opt out of coverage for contraception, abortions, and sterilization procedures.
SO, LET'S REVIEW...WHO IS MAKING MY DECISIONS FOR ME.?
Politicians, folks with religious beliefs other than my own, my employer, the invisible man, my neighbor's dog, and a partridge in a pear tree!
THIS HAS TO STOP!
...and this is what makes me, Pro-Choice.
"What one believes to be real, will be real in it's concequences"
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world"
Anomaly, awesome post! I could not agree more! I'm pro-choice as well.
I think it's wrong that your medical decision to have a tubal ligation is being hindered by doctors. I understand their concern, but you're an adult and capable of making decisions that effect your life.
Holy War....You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend. - Richard Jeni
Actually, the lawyers have a lot to do with the doctor not wanting to tie your tubes. OB/GYN's are sued if there is anything wrong with a baby, and are sued by many women who change their minds. I know it sucks that they are giving you a hard time, but there are some people out there who are not sure and sue.
For a very personal reason. I was born in the 1960's when abortion was illegal.
My birth mother became preganant with me as a teenager and out of wedlock.
They shipped her up north to avoid the embarassment, and she gave me up for adoption.
If abortion had been legal, I may very well have been dead before I had a chance.
I am grateful I had a choice to live, and that my birth mother didn't have a choice to kill.
Kris Tobler said this in post #1 : Are you "Pro-Life" Discuss your reasons/feelings/beliefs here.
Then why all the pro-choice people posting here? And why is "Abortion" in the Agree2Disagree section anyway? In a matter of life and death (which abortion is) I cannot see where middle ground can be found.
My 82 year old mother has Parkinson's and is in the advanced stage of Alzheimers Disease. She sits in a wheel chair from 8AM until 9pm seldom going anywhere because it is just too hard to
accomplish. She knows little, has zero enjoyment of life, can't taste food, and knows only pain. Using the Pro-Choice logic,
why can't we just do away with her life? After all, she's causing lots of work for everybody around her, her care is extremely expensive for a family who is anything but wealthy or even comfortable. People don't want to take care of her anymore. She's a real inconvenience......just like an unwanted child.
I know I sound like I mean what I am saying....but nothing could be further from the truth. We all love her and hate trying to let go emotionally. But why is my mother's situation that much different from an unwanted fetus? Somebody screwed up and got pregnant. My mom got old and diseased. Abortion is the killing of a human being. And don't try to tell me that fetus is anything but a human being. There's nothing you can do to turn that baby into a rosebud or a puppy dog. It' s a human being from the moment of conception. And it's never going to be anything else but. Unborn children and the elderly who are invalids are citizens.........the most vulnerable citizens there are.
They are entitled to be protected from murder.
Then why all the pro-choice people posting here? And why is "Abortion" in the Agree2Disagree section anyway? In a matter of life and death (which abortion is) I cannot see where middle ground can be found.
Oh, and by the way, I am pro-life!
The abortion issue is in the Agree2Disagree category because it is a hot topic that people tend to disagree about. People posting about why they are pro-choice are doing so because they have a right to state their opinions just like everyone else.
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KerryO said this in post #11 : My 82 year old mother has Parkinson's and is in the advanced stage of Alzheimers Disease. She sits in a wheel chair from 8AM until 9pm seldom going anywhere because it is just too hard to
accomplish. She knows little, has zero enjoyment of life, can't taste food, and knows only pain. Using the Pro-Choice logic,
why can't we just do away with her life? After all, she's causing lots of work for everybody around her, her care is extremely expensive for a family who is anything but wealthy or even comfortable. People don't want to take care of her anymore. She's a real inconvenience......just like an unwanted child.
I know I sound like I mean what I am saying....but nothing could be further from the truth. We all love her and hate trying to let go emotionally. But why is my mother's situation that much different from an unwanted fetus? Somebody screwed up and got pregnant. My mom got old and diseased. Abortion is the killing of a human being. And don't try to tell me that fetus is anything but a human being. There's nothing you can do to turn that baby into a rosebud or a puppy dog. It' s a human being from the moment of conception. And it's never going to be anything else but. Unborn children and the elderly who are invalids are citizens.........the most vulnerable citizens there are.
They are entitled to be protected from murder.
The difference between your sweet old mother and an abortion is plain and clear. Your mother didn't end up in her diabilitating state as the result of a rape or incest. Your mother isn't the result of a severe drug addict, her condition isn't tied to being a crack addicted baby. Your mother's condition wasn't brought on by being beated inside the womb by an abusive mate of her mother's. Or maybe I'm wrong and she was one or all of those things. But I seriously doubt it.
Holy War....You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend. - Richard Jeni
KerryO said this in post #11 : And don't try to tell me that fetus is anything but a human being.
A friend of mine who has had three miscarriages and her last child was nearly lost similarly was told on each of her troublesome pregnancies not to think of her child as a "baby" until it was born. Her doctor told her that it was only a foetus.
If when you miscarry it's called a feotus, isn't a little too convenient to label it a baby when discussing abortion. It's either one or the other.
I just wanted to add that your friend's doctor may have been trying to ease your friend's mind and emotions by telling her that she didn't miscarry babies, but rather just fetuses.
Scientific people are just as torn on the abortion debate as are non-scientific people.
I'm sure your friend who miscarried three times didn't think of her loss as the loss of an inconsequential pile of cells and DNA at the time of her loss.
No matter what pro-lifers or pro-choicers say about the issue, a miscarriage will always be a miscarried baby to the woman who miscarried.
Kris Rucker said this in post #1 : Are you "Pro-Life" Discuss your reasons/feelings/beliefs here.
This is why I asked why pro-choice people were posting here.
Anyway, why I don't understand why it is in Agree2Disagree area is BECAUSE it is such a hot topic, that there is NO WAY I am simply going to say about the issue that it is okay to disagree on it. Abortion is WRONG and I cannot accept anyone disagreeing with that notion. Sorry.
Also, I might add that I had two very early miscarriages, one friend said her doctor called it a missed pregnancy instead of a miscarriage. I felt that I lost a baby, not a fetus. It's because I wanted a baby that it was a baby, those who try to justify killing their unwanted babies call it a fetus. Your friend's doctor was just trying to make your friend feel better, like don't count your chickens before they hatch. Do you hear expectant women go around saying "I have a fetus"? No, they say "I'm having a baby".
09-15-2004 08:37 AM
I could not agree more! I'm pro-choice as well. 
thanks.
