But I get to say that without fearing for my life. That is one of the good things about the US.
Yep, Bush stinks in working with other countries. We are no more thrilled with him than you are. We have to live under his rule. You don't. So don't hate us. Feel sorry for us.
Hopefully, this will all be settled out come November. Then we can reevaluate having anything to do with any middle eastern country. We have our own problems and the middle east has taken too much of our time, energy, and funding. We'll also work with other countries rather than against them.
It is more what he won't do. He won't invade countries for the sport of it, he'll be more into working with other countries and he does not appear to be as war happy as Bush.
So he will appease terrorism and even though the US( which he would be sworn to protect) would be less safe, the countries around the world would be happy. Is that about right?
What you call the "sport of it", is known as the fastest hand over of a country in history. I think they are a little better off now, than they were before
And there was this thing about 17 UN resolutions and 12 years of non- compliance. Remember a thing called a cease fire agreement?
And , have you always voted for someone based on what they "won't do" ?
Kerry will negotiate agreements with other countries and the UN...not terrorists! Bush couldn't get Osama so he went for 2nd on his s*** list...probably suggested by his dad!
bush gives 2 choices to the countries of the world : or they support USA or they are against him and he must destroy those "terrorists" !!
rgblgrn5 , u talked about funding : www.costofwar.com
I suggest we have the weapons manufacturers fund the war. It's the least they could do for the people of the USA.
Then we can call it even and move on.
Or even a better idea...why not have the Federal Reserve print up enough big bills to cover it... oops its already being done.
At the cost of inflation. I am tired of watching my simple can of soup go up .50 cents every 3 months.
As for replacing our soldiers and their now fragile psyches...
that price can never be repaid.
rgblgrn5 said this in post #1 : But I get to say that without fearing for my life. That is one of the good things about the US.
Yep, Bush stinks in working with other countries. We are no more thrilled with him than you are. We have to live under his rule. You don't. So don't hate us. Feel sorry for us.
Hopefully, this will all be settled out come November. Then we can reevaluate having anything to do with any middle eastern country. We have our own problems and the middle east has taken too much of our time, energy, and funding. We'll also work with other countries rather than against them.
Speak for yourself. I'm pleased with him, he's not a lame duck like Clinton, too busy getting blowjobs and going after Bill Gates and religious sect in Waco and pardoning terrorist FALN members instead of going after them. Thanks to Bush, Libya has become a non terrorist country.
So...........Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq?? http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec98/clinton_12-16.html
Speak for yourself. I'm pleased with him, he's not a lame duck like Clinton, too busy getting blowjobs and going after Bill Gates and religious sect in Waco and pardoning terrorist FALN members instead of going after them. Thanks to Bush, Libya has become a non terrorist country.
Thanks to Bush, Libya is a non terrorist country? Claiming credit where non is due is a sure sign of your desperation and shows that Bush has done nothing worth crowing about.
Unless you want to point out that the US does now have its military bases and the world's biggest embassy bang smack in the middle of the Middle East, and doners to the Bush election fund are making a finacial killing out of the chaos - thanks to the US tax payers and Iraqi oil (if and when it starts pumping fully).
So crow loud and clear that Bush is paying back his "base" the rich elite and wealthy of the United States. The real winners of this war.
I could be wrong but was it not Tony Blair who did 90% of the groundwork in getting Libya back on side? He was the one who met and talked with Gaddafi in Libya.
becker said this in post #13 : It will not matter who the President of The U.S. will be.
If there is no international cooperation to defeat the enemies of world Society it is all moot.
It matters that the US has a president that understands what cooperation and diplomacy are rather than the guy you have right now who has somehow manage to pi$s most of the world off.
Is this Bush's greatest skill cause plenty of people seem to think it's one of his plus points. Oh and coming out with utterly stupid comments like - "bring it on" (still hard to believe he actually said that )
It matters that the US has a president that understands what cooperation and diplomacy are rather than the guy you have right now who has somehow manage to pi$s most of the world off.
Is this Bush's greatest skill cause plenty of people seem to think it's one of his plus points. Oh and coming out with utterly stupid comments like - "bring it on" (still hard to believe he actually said that )
Bill Clinton was the most accommodating, sensitive, multilateralist President one can imagine, and yet we know that al-Qaeda began the planning for Sept. 11 precisely during his presidency. Clinton made humility his vocation, apologizing variously for African slavery, for internment of Japanese Americans, for not saving Rwanda. He even decided that Britain should return the Elgin Marbles to Greece. A lot of good that did us. Bin Laden issued his Declaration of War on America in 1996—at the height of the Clinton Administration's hyperapologetic, good-citizen internationalism.
Moreover, it is unseemly, even pathetic, for the would-be leaders of a great power to pine for the pity gleaned on the day America lay bleeding and wounded. This is to carry into foreign policy a pathology of our domestic politics—the glorification of victimhood and the lust for its privileges, such as they are. It is not surprising that having set up at home a spoils system that encourages every ethnic group to claim even greater victimization than the next, the Democrats should lament the fact that we did not seize and institutionalize our collective victimhood of Sept. 11.
The world apparently likes the U.S. when it is on its knees. From that the Democrats deduce a foreign policy - remain on our knees, humble and supplicant, and enjoy the applause and "support" of the world.
This is not just degrading. It is a fool's bargain--3,000 dead for a day's worth of nice words and a few empty U.N. resolutions. The Democrats would forfeit American freedom of action and initiative in order to get back - what? Another nice French editorial? To be retracted as soon as the U.S. stops playing victim?
The fact is that the world hates us for our wealth, our success, our power. They hate us into incoherence. The Europeans disdain us for our excessive religiosity (manifest, they imagine, by evolution being expelled from schools while prayer is ushered back in)—while the Arab world despises us as purveyors of secularism. We cannot win for losing. We are widely reviled as enemies of Islam, yet in the 1990s we engaged three times in combat—in the Persian Gulf and in the Balkans—to rescue Kuwait, Bosnia and Kosovo, Muslim peoples all. And in the last two cases, there was nothing in it for the U.S.; it was humanitarianism and good international citizenship of the highest order.
06-29-2004 03:59 AM
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Claiming credit where non is due is a sure sign of your desperation and shows that Bush has done nothing worth crowing about. 
