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Landon Donovan has extended his contract with Bayern Leverkusen. It remains to be seen if he will play in Germany or remain on loan to San Jose of MLS.

Why hasnt more interest been shown to Chris Armas? He is by far the most talented field player on the US squad in my opinion.


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I have never heard of Armas which backs up your statement in a way. The problem is that we do not here about US players until they sign for a big club which does not really happen that often, I think a lot of it is that European mangers are under pressure from the board and the fans to sign a big name player from a big name club and to most fans and board mebers MLS is not seen as a big time league yet. Of course when you look at the US players that play in Europe i.e. Reyna, Howard, Donavon, Moore and the guy that plays for Ajax whos name escapes me, these players are just as good and can do just as well. There may also be a problem with work permits but I cant be sure. Honestly there is no reason why US players should not be playing in top leagues of Europe.

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I have no doubt that if Armas had played in WC02 he would be playing in europe by now. His knee injury was a huge loss for the team. He plays defensive midfield, and the current formation 4-1-3-2, attests to the fact that the team is built around him.

Its not that I expect the kings of europe to jump at the chance to sign a relatively unknown talent. I just wonder why a mid-table side wouldnt sign him while they can still get him cheap


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I really do not know why, there is the same sor of problem with Scottish based players, we have some really good young talents but because they play in the Scottish league they are deemed not good enough for the mid table clubs in England etc. I think it not so much the players but the league they play in but as the MLS gets better and USA qualify for more tournamets ( are USA in the copa America this summer?) then more people will see them and they will get the moves to foreign clubs, one of the other problems is that most scouts wont go the US to look for players for some reason.

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I just thought of 2 reasons why european clubs wont look at Armas.

1 His age ; 31

2 His health ; he missed the last world cup with a torn acl and still has problems with it

John O'Brien plays left back for Ajax (when hes healthy)

I might have a new Dutch team to follow. PSV Eindhoven have made a serious bid for forward Damarcus Beasley

OH, and the US isnt in the Copa, they only take the top 2 CONCACAF qualifiers (Mexico and Costa Rica)


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I had no idea Armas was that old. I thought he was around mid-20s.

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Reading are trying to sign an American player. I cannot remeber his name but it begins with a C and he plays for Washington DC any ideas who it could be MR F ?

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Bobby Convey. Hes a defender with a knack for offense. He has a few caps , so Ive seen him play. He is in his very early 20s , so he should be a developing talent, but he may make the starting 11, depending on what Reading already have

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I don't know much about Reading to be honest I think they are English 1st division . I will try to find out if the transfer went ahead.

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Bobby Convey has signed for Reading and has already played in at least one friendly game against Man city. His new boss Steve Coppel has said that he will give him a slow start to his career in England.

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MLS has turned down a $4M US bid from Benfica for the services of young US international Eddie Johnson. It wouldve been the second biggest transfer fee in the leagues history (second only to Tim Howards $4.1 M US.)

This bodes well for the league. This tells me that they arent just going to sell off every young talent that they can make a profit off of. This also tells me that they are interested in building up a fan base in the US and increasing the level of play locally


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I recently heard rumors about a $6 Mil US bid for Johnson. PSV Eindhoven , Man U, and Juventus were involved, could be unsubstantiated.

ps Johnson scored again against Honduras, he now has 8 goals in 7 matches


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I have not heard about that over here but it could be true. Man U will obvioulsy be looking to strenghten thier squad but thier main priority is a goalkeeper and a central defender.

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Im glad to see the return to form of Claudio Reyna , in the first match for Man City, and in the US's win over Trinidad. He looked like the Claudio of years ago


The u-20 tournament showed lots of young American talent that I am real excited about. The one player that stood out in my mind is Marvell Wynne- a defender with size and speed who does as much attacking as defending, and is very effective at both.


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Any Parma fans out there?

I need a report on Guiseppi Rossi. He used to play for Parma, now plays at Old Trafford. I saw him play in a a recent Carling Cup match, gut he was invisible. All I know about him is he is 17, was born in New Jersy, is uncapped but would rather play for Italy than the US.

Seeing that he would rather play for a little country like Italy than soon to be world dominant force in the soccer world US, he obviously doesnt have the brains to fit into Bruce Arenas system, but Id still like to know if he has any skills


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I haven't seen alot of Rossi but from what I have seen he seems another good signing in the Ferguson rebuilding.

He seems to have good technique and a natural finishing ability but he will probably be one of the players that Ferguson will be working with alot in the next few years so he is unlikely to feature in many first team matches for a while yet.

I can see his reasoning for playing for Italy rather than the US. Italy are a known and respected force in the Footballing world where as USA are well on their way to becoming a force in football, whether they keep themselves there will depend on whether they can get more interest from the youth who, as far as I can tell, are more interested in American Football, Baseball and other American sports.


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I think Rossi has played in a lot of the cup matches this season and he also came on against Everton at Ol Trafford unless I am mistaken.

He looks like a decent enough player very busy and a lot of movement which is what you want from a forward ( keeps the defence busy). To be honest how many bad players have come through the Man U youth system in the past though? You have to have some decent talent to be in that squad.

As for the whole Italy or USA thing I agree with White Tiger, the US has to consistently be in the top ten to try and lure these dual nationals.


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I saw Rossi yesterday in the 5-0 drubbing of Albion Brewers, he was man of the match. He scored 2, but it was his passing , vision, and ability to find space (there was a lot of it) that impressed me.

I also learned that he has been capped for Italy at the u19 level, so I think he is no longer eligible to play for the US.

PS Saha looked terrible vs Albion, his finishing was way off (and he still scored 1)


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Rossi will be avalible for the US until he play for the main Italian team, if he ever does.

After all Nigel Quashie played for the England Under 21 team and now he is a full fledged Scottish international.


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Did Giggs not play for England at U 19 level?

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We went to the US- Canada match last night , it ended 0-0.

Both Freddy Adu and goalkeeper Matt Reis got their first cap.

Reis put in a solid 90 minutes stopping 2 attacks 1 on 1.

Adu came in at the 80 minute mark. His only touch resulted in a yellow card for diving in the box (he did, we had a perfect angle).

Defender Frankie Hejduk put in a good performance in the first half, he was replaced by world cup veteran Eddie Pope who was absolutely awful. Dwayne DeRosario (one of the best attackers in MLS) was given acres of space on the right side and made Pope look silly on more than one occasion.

I had never heard of defender Heath Pearce (FC Nordsjaelland, Denmark) till last night , so I kept en eye on him. He did well

The one player that impressed me the most was a Canadian, forward Rob Friend of Molde Norway. He seemed to be everywhere on the field. His passing , vision and workrate were all top notch, and defensively he always seemed to be exactly where the US offense didnt want him to be. Well done


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Anybody hear about the transfer rumors about Freddy Adu? MLS is denying it, but rumor has it that a $8.7M bid from Chelsea is on the table

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All I heard was that MLS would not sell him.

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If the deal really exists, MLS would be foolish not to take it. Adu is stagnating at DC United, and unless he shows drastic improvement another offer like this will never come along. Besides, if Adu is going to reach his full potential he needs to be at a big club. Even though I despise Chelsea, it would be good for him and the US (Man U, Real M, and Inter Milan are also said to be interested). At a time when MLS is expanding and in need of money ,it seems like a good idea all around

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when ( not if ) it comes to Adu moving abroad a lot will depend on the style of football played in the US if the football is a slow build up approach and flair based then his best bet would be Germany or Italy I beleive a lot of American players have had success in Germany like Reyna ( must say great player), Donavon and another whos name escapes me maybe Wolff?
If the MLS is played fast, physical and little time on the ball then England is the place to come.
What type of football is plyed in the US is it the slow build up or the fast and furious?

PS if he just wamnts a punch up he should be in Glasgow this Sunday at 12.00


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The US style varies a bit depending on the opponent and the lineup. With Reyna at midfield, you can set up a slow build up attack using Donovan and some others.

With lightning fast Damarcus Beasley on the wing, you can set up a route 1 offense with Brian McBride in the middle, but usually it is combination of the two styles.

I dont think Adu necessarily needs to go to a certain type of team, just one that will make him develop all of his skills. After all, Claudio Reyna is a slow controlling midfielder , but was doing very well at Man City before his injury


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Freddy Adu has recently been linked with a move to Man Utd.

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He just came back from a week-long trial at Man U a couple of days ago. I have yet to hear any signing rumors

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Well if anything iss going to happen it won't be until January at the earliest.

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I don't think Adu would stand a chance in the premiership at the moment. He just does not match up physically and at clubs like Man U and Chelsea i just cannot see him getting many chances to play. I watched him several times playing for D.C. when i lived in Canada in 2005 and i saw little to suggest he is ready to play with the big boys. He should go play in Holland and learn more

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