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Why don't we start boycotting those companies which are outsourcing?? post #1  quote:



I was just wondering why there is no movement in US about boycotting those companies which are outsourcing jobs to other countries like India, China and Japan.

There was a huge movement in Europe about this and companies started getting the jobs back..why cant the same be done here??

To start with we should:


1. Stop buying from DELL
2. Stop using American Express cards.
3. Move our accounts from Bank of America to Wells Fargo or other banks.

and there are other things too..but this is good to start with.

your comments are welcome


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Interesting notion - but we'd find ourselves without a LOT of computers and televisions and such things if we nailed them all. Some strategic picks might not be a bad idea, such as making regoinal plays: take for example all the companies in the North-east U.S. who are outsourcing offshore develpoment, organize a boycott on their products until some results are seen, publish a list of targets next on the regional play and see if they react before the boycott reaches them. Some will definitely be responsive to this - the regional play ensures that Americans still can purchase the things they need from rival competitors, but shows those competitors that they need to step up their game as well if they're next on the list.

I like it!


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1. Stop buying from DELL
2. Stop using American Express cards.
3. Move our accounts from Bank of America to Wells Fargo or other banks



funny thing is..... I don't have a DELL appliance in my house! my computer (my parents anyway) is made of 'hp' ... same goes for my laptop (though it has not internet...)

and my parent's accounts are SOMEWHERE besides Bank of America...


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Very little is ever completly made in the USA now. Most companys have offices, plants, and workers outside the USA. I do my best to buy American when I can.

As for Bank of America I personally love them I have not had one single problem with them over the 8 + years I have been a member. So I will stay with them.


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We are our own worst enemy. So many people buy goods at the cheapest price they can find, and often that means it is produced elsewhere. I do love to buy something that says Made in the USA, and tell my friends when I do! But sometimes I can't find what I want or need that says that.

I'm beginning to wonder if we should believe companies claims that "they" have to go off shore because it ends up in less expensive goods to sell to the public.

Some of the jobs they are placing overseas, from what I've read, are not even involved in production but are white collar. And you know companies are only doing that to increase their bottom line - in other words, the money that gets back to the top execs and shareholders. It doesn't always have to do with producing cheaper goods anymore, just getting work done as cheaply as possible.

I read a newspaper article saying we should consider how much the off shore work improves situations for people in countries other than the U.S. I, for one, don't like seeing my standard of living decrease while it's going up in other countries.


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It really does not matter whether you boycot or not. Efficiency in world markets is a growing trend and will function exactly as advertised...they're efficient markets. People in olden days had similar sentiments when information technology and easy communication and travel did not exist within the U.S (i.e. people in certain towns angry because their home firms would "outsource" to other parts of the country). However, markets readjust themselves naturally to achieve the highest amount of benefit for every individual...at this point countries are already achieving that to a certain extent. The way the population boom is occuring and the ease of transfer of materials and information accross countries, the efficiency adjustments are inevitable whether you like them or not. And truly they are for the benefit of all people across the world, granted standard of living will decrease initially but as the process approaches completion, the overall standard of living will rise as an aggregate for all countries. I do admit that this will be in the very long run (i.e. you suffer but your great grandchildren or later on down will surely reap the benefits).

Rather than letting rash judgement decide, understand the economics behind it (yes i am studying to be an economist so hate me if you must). Regulations really wont work against forces as strong as the ones naturally governing markets...just look at child labor, so many are against it there are bans and boycots and what not...it simply is extremely unlikely to almost certainly unlikely that it will not work.


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This country is going to pot for this very reason as outlined in this thread.

I say boycott the US and move to Greenland.
I may be heading there shortly.


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We all must realize the facts and not hide our heads in the sand.......

The world is no longer a separate economy, but each country is dependent on the others for goods and resources.
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Our fast growing communication methods are uniting all nations. We are in a world economy.

There is no sense to trying to fight against a tidal wave. Join in and share the benefits.

Some of us may need to go back to school and learn the new booms...eg" Genetics..Biotech..Nanotech, etc.

When we wake up and realize the present direction of our world, only then will we be on the same page.


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Oh, the "booms."
Genetics, biotech, nanotech.

No, thank you.
I wouldn't get much pleasure playing "god" and creating human-animal chimeras, or cloning myself from a strand of my hair with follicle, or spittle in my mouth.
Nor does nanotechnology really excite me. The future of having a chip in my arm to pay for my purchases or track my whereabouts really isn't appealing.
Neither does short lines at the grocery store excite me with RFID technology.

I am just simple and boring.

I would, however, consider going to Africa and protecting the women and children from Islamic jihadists and predatory UN Peacekeepers hell bent on getting sex from anyone they care to regardless of age or consent.
Now, that would be a job worth having!


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We all must realize the facts and not hide our heads in the sand.......

The world is no longer a separate economy, but each country is dependent on the others for goods and resources.
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Our fast growing communication methods are uniting all nations. We are in a world economy.

There is no sense to trying to fight against a tidal wave. Join in and share the benefits.

Some of us may need to go back to school and learn the new booms...eg" Genetics..Biotech..Nanotech, etc.

When we wake up and realize the present direction of our world, only then will we be on the same page.


Until we are all on the same page please advise what are the out of work people here in America supposed to do?

Engineers and Hi tech persons are being dismissed or "laid Off"
Companies call it downsizing but its really a disguise for letting the older highly skilled people go and hiring the young fresh out of college guy for a third the money.

Thats what we consumers are getting. A load of unskilled labor who screw up our credit cards, Bank Statements and everything which we became accoustumed to running smoothly.

Downsizing all right In your pocket

Some in their 40's and a litttle late to go back to school and learn another craft.

WE must boycott all foreign made clothing and watch the tags girls because some clothing Cos, hide the made inChina or India.

When it gets so bad that my own customer service Reps are from another Country and one can not understand what the hell they are saying, its time to stand up for American Rights in the work place

I plan on writing my Congressperson and letting them know my vote is on the line here folks.
Enough of us can do something if we get together,

How about a letter to President Bush? I will write it and sign your names ( with persmisssion)

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VIVA AMERICA


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Thank you Delta.

VIVA America


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VIVA AMERICA HOMEFRONT FIRST

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AMEN SISTA!

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The only reason that companies outsource is because it is cheaper to do it. You can all have the domestic workforce making products but would you be willing to pay the extra for it? People want cheap products and a homegrown workforce but you can't have both it's either or, right now the ones that want it cheap have spoken.

The only reason that firms got boycotted in Europe was down to call centers being moved to India ( guess why they went there) and people had trouble with the accents.

It is not just America in fact the country/region that invests the most FDI is Hong Kong, Japan, Korea,Germany then the US with UK France etc coming in later.

and it is not just China and India that is seeing this outsourcing/FDI Korea, Vietnam, Thailand and Eastern European countries are all seeing this massive influx of money the governments love it because it supplies jobs, training, infrastructure etc. If it's any consolation it shifts every few decades in the 60 and 70s S. Africa and L. America saw this outsourcing and in the 1990s - 200o it was the US that was the main recipient.


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post #15  quote:

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The only reason that companies outsource is because it is cheaper to do it.


When money becomes god and people are left to eat out of garbage bins....
it's time to rethink.

Because these people eating out of garbage bins may soon tire of it and band together to take some action.


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The only reason that companies outsource is because it is cheaper to do it. You can all have the domestic workforce making products but would you be willing to pay the extra for it? People want cheap products and a homegrown workforce but you can't have both it's either or, right now the ones that want it cheap have spoken.

The only reason that firms got boycotted in Europe was down to call centers being moved to India ( guess why they went there) and people had trouble with the accents.

It is not just America in fact the country/region that invests the most FDI is Hong Kong, Japan, Korea,Germany then the US with UK France etc coming in later.

and it is not just China and India that is seeing this outsourcing/FDI Korea, Vietnam, Thailand and Eastern European countries are all seeing this massive influx of money the governments love it because it supplies jobs, training, infrastructure etc. If it's any consolation it shifts every few decades in the 60 and 70s S. Africa and L. America saw this outsourcing and in the 1990s - 200o it was the US that was the main recipient.


!5,000 AMERICANS WERE LAID OFF AT HEWLETT pACKARD
oUR aIR LINES ARE GOING BANQRUPT, bANKS ARE FOLDING
tHE FOREIGN SYNDROME IS TAKING OVER OUR oIL.
wE ARE NOT GOING TO SIT AROUND HERE AND WAIT FOR A CYCLE TO CHANGE lOVE, We were built on Independence we will fight for our independece if it comes to that.

Listen up darlin, you live in Scotland so what happens here effects you little.


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Exactly Delta.

And there are many more large layoffs planned.

I have no loyalty toward or desire to work for corporate America/and the furriners
ever again. Not as a janitor, an executive, or a pea pod shooter.

And there are many of us.
And we are intelligent people and hard working people.
And we are not going to take this one up the ass without ramifications.

And I am not talking about violence here, like I said, we are intelligent and law abiding people.
And if it takes walking into a fancy restaurant where these zillionaires frequent, bumping into their tables, knocking their Tostada au Poulet onto the floor and shoving their expensive French cuisine into a paper bag so be it.

Creativity is essential.


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T, I find it so hard to have Americans not understand whats happening right under their noses. Reminds me of Sodom and you know what had to happen then. The longer I live and see what is happening to us Americans the angrier I become. We are like Sheep. Sorry, economy logic sticks in my throat

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That is why Robert Bork said it right:

?If you want to know what a collapse of a civilization looks like, you are in one.? -- Robert Bork

and the Senate didn't have the balls to confirm him for the Supreme Court in 1987.

He wrote a book called Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline.

There are a few like you and me who can see what's happening, but then there many more others in the world and on this forum who cannot.

People better wake up and smell the one coffee bean we all may have left per person....while the fat cats sit behind their walls collecting money like stamps and mistresses.

But you know as I know, this was ALLLLL prophesied ahead of time, chickie.

And true sheep know the true shepherd.

In days of famine I WILL be satisfied. Psalm 37.

In fact the entire Psalm 37 speaks of this very time. Check it out. Gives me peace.


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I am going to go watch The Shinning with Jack Nicolson so I can be as scared as I am of this world
Nighty Night T

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Nighty, I think I'll go watch The Pretender Inner Sense movie,
perhaps Jarod can inspire me.


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post #22  quote:

quote:
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Listen up darlin, you live in Scotland so what happens here effects you little.


D...

lodgebo made an excellent point when he said:

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The only reason that companies outsource is because it is cheaper to do it. You can all have the domestic workforce making products but would you be willing to pay the extra for it? People want cheap products and a homegrown workforce but you can't have both it's either or, right now the ones that want it cheap have spoken.


Just because it doesnt affect him in this country doesnt mean he isnt being logical in his statement...its true...you cant deny that.

Are the people of this country, as a whole, willing to pay extra if, they decide to really boycott these companies? Are you?

Because essentially we are talking about paying much more...not just a little more.


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Delta you are missing the point I was not just talking about US comapnies but the western world as a whole. This is happening in every developed country where consumers like you and me demand our goods at a cheap price.

And this does happen in Scotland so don't treat me like I am entering this discussion blind.


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Delta you are missing the point I was not just talking about US comapnies but the western world as a whole. This is happening in every developed country where consumers like you and me demand our goods at a cheap price.

And this does happen in Scotland so don't treat me like I am entering this discussion blind.


Sorry L I was a bit uppity. YOUr opinion is always welcome you know that.

I am trying to say we all should be will.ing to forego some things to make the situation in the economy better.

It might mean buying a smaller car say a Hybrid.

Watching labels and sticking to American Made items.

Writing our congressperson. Senators whom represent us.

We can become a force to deal. with if United.
Thats the Key L and Mystic we must be United in our mission

I am not trying to offend anyone just rying to offer a Solution in lieu of WAITING for the cycl.e to change.
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post #25  quote:

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Delta you are missing the point I was not just talking about US comapnies but the western world as a whole. This is happening in every developed country where consumers like you and me demand our goods at a cheap price.

And this does happen in Scotland so don't treat me like I am entering this discussion blind.


I didnt realize that you were affected by this as well. I knew some countries were dealing with this...but I didnt realize how big of an issue this was throughout the world.

So...what do you think lodgebo? Would you be willing to pay higher prices or would you rather pay lower? Which one do you think would inevitably be a better way?


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Well many of your tenets are going to be answered very soon.

China is now letting their currency float.

The Dollar is rising.


Imports will cost more and our exports will cost less.

Our wonderful "leaders" have done zero about pushing for cheaper energy. Now oil hit $60 per barrel [what a joke]

All the pols care about is pandering to their moneyed interests.

So now we can all look forward to higher real estate taxes. Gasoline costs that will not recede much and creeping inflation.

Our money God Greenspan is slowly causing our interest rates to rise. He just keeps ratcheting the rates up at every Fed meeting.


We are caught like rats in a world trap. There is truth to SWTT's remarks.


The future looks bleak for all of us.

Our only salvation here in The USA is a flat tax of some type.

And for those who have been laid off...it is imperative to seek re-training in the areas that are looking for qualified people.

Or else start your own business and work for yourselves.


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I pretty much have to make a huge decision every week whether to go to Walmart and buy crap cheaper, or the local grocers and pay a little more.

The essentials we really need may be a little cheeper at Walmart, but if I don't have an income, because my company just did a lay off because of a merger with a foreign company....who the frick cares because I cannot afford jack shiiit at that point anyway?

So, when I was rollling in the dough, and even when I wasn't I still chose to shop at Whole Foods or Wild Oats because of the health food regimen.
I paid literally 2 dollars more on practically everything, but I knew I wasn't eating crap that would give me a mustache and breast pains with all the hormones and such.

But if it does get to the point that I have to sell my house, move in with one of my friends, whatever....I will be making choices that will reflect my disgust with globalization.
Perhaps moving somewhere and living communally with my buddies, and growing our own food. Whatever it takes.

These companies and their stockholders may think they are doing a good thing for themselves....but when people start to wise up and realize that a market economy is just that....you can buy and sell with only those you choose to do so, they could lose more money than they have gained in closing American factories and opening them elsewhere.

And if you live communally and rurally like many of us can here.....barter becomes an issue. My skills for some food.

Because it's not looking good for the future and I don't mean to be an alarmist....but I am just looking at the trends and reading the books and experiencing this crap first hand.


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Delta,

Drink Miller, or Bud.

xxxx your brand!!!!

Do it for me and the others!!!!! Please.


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So...what do you think lodgebo? Would you be willing to pay higher prices or would you rather pay lower? Which one do you think would inevitably be a better way?


Well being a mean tight fisted Scotsman I will obvioulsy go for the cheaper option.

Wether or not people are willing to pay for chepaer or more expensive goods is becoming irrelevant globalistaion, FDI etc is here to stay. FDI is now more popular than ever and franchising has been growing for years.

Finding a better way is difficult, but there are advantages and disadvantges in both.


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