This is the thread to discuss the Silmarillion. We will be taking this work a bit at a time. Shadow has been so kind as to summarize the beginning for us. Feel free to share your thoughts and questions.
This is a summary of Ainulindale or the creation of Middle Earth which the Elves call Arda.
In the beginning there was Eru, The One, whom the elves named Iluvitar. He created the Valar or Ainur. He showed them great visions of the things he had planned. He then instructed them to make a Great Music, and they did so. But there was one among them, who desired power for himself, and to bend all things to his will. He was Melkor, strongest and most knowledged of the Valar. into the Music of the Ainur he created his own harmony, and chaos immediately erupted. Iluvitar then Created a new music and it strove with Melkor's, and Melkor's music was the stronger. Then Iluvitar arose again, and created another music, wholly different from all others. it fed off of Melkor's and was superior. But there was still strife, and Iluvitar rose up a third time, and the music ceased. He then rebuked Melkor, and Melkor was ashamed, yet out of this shame came anger. Then Iluvitar showed the Ainur all that he had in store. For the music they had created had created Arda, and the Valar were amazed. Iluvitar then showed them The Children of Iluvitar. That is Elves and Men, the Firstborn and the Followers. And the Valar were further amazed at this thing Iluvitar had created for they had no part in its creation. When they had seen the Children of Iluvitar and Arda, they desire went toward that place. Chief among them was Melkor, who desired to turn all things to his will, and who was jealous of Iluvitar's creation.
The Valar, Ulmo turned his thoughts to the waters, and he was instructed in music by Iluvitar. Manwe, the chief and noblest of the Valar pondered the air. Aule, who had thought of the fabric of the earth, was given the skills of a maker, and delighted in the thing made, and gave all hoarding none. Manwe and Ulmo were allied and served Iluvitar most faithfully.
and some of the Ainur dwellt ever with Iluvitar, but others, the greatest of them took leave of him, and descended to Arda. And they labored to make the world suitable for the Children, but Melkor who was with them from the beginning, meddled in all that was done, and wrought great chaos. and when the Earth was yet young Melkor told his Brethren "This shall be my own kingdom; and I name it unto myself!"
But Manwe, Chief of the Valar rebuked his brother, and Melkor left for other regions, but ever was the Desire for the Kingdom of Arda strong in his heart.
and the Valar took upon them shape, such as they would, and they gave themselves shape as men. but at times when they were visible they were majestic and terrible to behold for their shape was as their own thought.
And Melkor saw all that was done, and he took on a form for himself, but because of his malice, his form was dark and terrible.
And Melkor descended to Arda in power greater than that of any other of the Valar, and he made war upon them. But the Valar pressed on with their shaping of Arda, and while naught was as it should have been, slowly Arda was fashioned and made ready.
Love is a very powerful force, especially when its formed into a coherent beam of death.
Last edited by Shadow Stalker on 01-07-2004 at 03:46 AM |
Shadow, let's start with what the Valar are for those that are not up to speed. Then the summary would be great. We can lay the foundation, then we can really enjoy all the stories with the F named people.
so...uh...when are we actually going to start discussing/trying to get more poeple in here....i say we get whidden to to throw them all in here...so what if it's agianst there will...its a free country right?
Love is a very powerful force, especially when its formed into a coherent beam of death.
I am getting Tear to read the books so he can join us you guys............ you know I am in.......... We can try getting Peregr!n in here too...............
"In any contest between power and patience, bet on patience" ~ W.B. Prescott
"Happiness is good health and a bad memory" ~ Ingrid Bergman
Close but there were 15 in all Fuscia............. The strongest of them all was Melkor another lord and brother to Manwe, who was pretty much expelled because of his corrupt nature.... it was his music fighting that of his brother that ultimately created Arda.............
I posted something like this is the LOTR thread....
~Erika~
"In any contest between power and patience, bet on patience" ~ W.B. Prescott
"Happiness is good health and a bad memory" ~ Ingrid Bergman
I did not list him because he was Expelled. I was going along with the book and would list him under the villain. I believe that he deserves his own post to fully explain the motives of him. He does so much that he is his own category, but thank you for pointing that out.
Anyone want to start, in pairs, explaining the Valar/Valier?
I will Fuscia........ and I only put him in there since you were listing all of them and whether expelled or he was part of them.......... but I see your point .......... sorry!
"In any contest between power and patience, bet on patience" ~ W.B. Prescott
"Happiness is good health and a bad memory" ~ Ingrid Bergman
01-07-2004 02:31 AM
We can lay the foundation, then we can really enjoy all the stories with the F named people.
alright sounds like a plan. just to clarify the Valar are basically immortal invincible, and look after Middle earth. they are viewed by men as gods.
